DVCPRO HD for CineVision

tizank tha bizank · 10th June 2008, 22:43

Hey there, i just captured some 720p 59.94 frame footage, at the DVCPRO HD codec on Final cut. i have an 80gb file, but when i go put it in CineVision, it says i can't convert that file.

Is there any way to use that codec in CineVision?

Am i going to have to capture the footage uncompressed in order to use it in CineVision? That is difficult as we're talking 90 GB versus what could be close to 900GB in terms of capture space, not to mention a need for a Raid for the uncompressed.

Should i just convert the captured DVCPRO HD .mov quicktime file to another codec, and then bring it into CineVision.

Any suggestions would be appreciated. This is my 1st attempt at HD footage and blu-Ray so any guidance and assistance would really be appreciated.

Thanks!

Eric69 · 11th June 2008, 00:23

I had the same issue. I guess windows doesn't support DVCProHD. Now I convert to 10bit uncompressed if its 1080 and 8bit uncompressed if its 720p. Like you said - HUGE files!

guada2 · 11th June 2008, 07:05

Hello izank tha bizank,

- and Adobe pro CS3?
- Have you try the demo of RAYLIGHT (a little plug in)
- or HD file Converter Pro

Bye.

tizank tha bizank · 11th June 2008, 14:22

I have tried the trial version of RayLight, and while that lets me open the file on the PC, CineVision still does not accept the file for Blu-Ray encoding.

Hey Eric69, so i am assuming you have a real fast RAID set up to capture uncompressed at those file sizes? And do you use CineVision?

guada2 · 11th June 2008, 21:57

@tizank tha bizank
- Why Cinevision?
- Have you tried others software?

Eric69 · 12th June 2008, 00:10

Quote:

Hey Eric69, so i am assuming you have a real fast RAID set up to capture uncompressed at those file sizes? And do you use CineVision?

I've used Cinevision in the past but now use Main Concepts
Reference. I don't use a fast RAID but have about 2T of HDD space. Just export to uncompressed QT and bring this into Cinevision.

guada2 · 12th June 2008, 18:23

@Eric69,

Quote:

2T of HDD space

wow..

and how many time you take to encode a Bluray HD?

Eric69 · 12th June 2008, 21:13

A terabyte is only about $250 (US) these days. For 2 hours film it take about 8 hours of encoding time. Main Concepts take about 2x that.

tizank tha bizank · 13th June 2008, 01:14

I just downloaded the trial of Reference so i will give that a try. i was using CineVision because i had heard some good things about it, and figured that was one of my best bets for Blu-Ray encodes.

Eric69 · 13th June 2008, 01:59

The rumor is that Main Concepts is the same AVC encoding engine as Cinevision. I don't know if thats true but it sounds like Sonic who is notorious for licensing other's hard work and passing it on as their own - at a much higher price. Cinevision has segment encoding which is nice. But the only reason I use Reference is because its the only one I can afford.

Did your 8bit conversion work in Cinevision?

tizank tha bizank · 13th June 2008, 05:17

Hey Eric,

I did a test conversion of a small piece and it did work. I need to go get a new drive and swap my setup a bit. i used to capture on 2 Raptor drives (74gb and 150gb) so I'm going to pull the 74gb, and throw in a TB.

I went with CineVision because I had liked the segment re-encoding for true control of the look of everything.

It's my first time getting into this. My standard def encoding is so simple and straightforward and easy, so there's just more to learn on doing the Blu-Ray. Hopefully I'll be good to go soon.

I thinking I'll end up having to get a RAID setup for uncompressed capturing.

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tizank tha bizank Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 41	DVCPRO HD for CineVision Hey there, i just captured some 720p 59.94 frame footage, at the DVCPRO HD codec on Final cut. i have an 80gb file, but when i go put it in CineVision, it says i can't convert that file. Is there any way to use that codec in CineVision? Am i going to have to capture the footage uncompressed in order to use it in CineVision? That is difficult as we're talking 90 GB versus what could be close to 900GB in terms of capture space, not to mention a need for a Raid for the uncompressed. Should i just convert the captured DVCPRO HD .mov quicktime file to another codec, and then bring it into CineVision. Any suggestions would be appreciated. This is my 1st attempt at HD footage and blu-Ray so any guidance and assistance would really be appreciated. Thanks!

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tizank tha bizank Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 41	DVCPRO HD / Cinevision I have tried the trial version of RayLight, and while that lets me open the file on the PC, CineVision still does not accept the file for Blu-Ray encoding. Hey Eric69, so i am assuming you have a real fast RAID set up to capture uncompressed at those file sizes? And do you use CineVision?

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tizank tha bizank Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 41	Main Concept I just downloaded the trial of Reference so i will give that a try. i was using CineVision because i had heard some good things about it, and figured that was one of my best bets for Blu-Ray encodes.

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Eric69 Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 242	The rumor is that Main Concepts is the same AVC encoding engine as Cinevision. I don't know if thats true but it sounds like Sonic who is notorious for licensing other's hard work and passing it on as their own - at a much higher price. Cinevision has segment encoding which is nice. But the only reason I use Reference is because its the only one I can afford. Did your 8bit conversion work in Cinevision? Last edited by Eric69; 13th June 2008 at 02:02.

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11th June 2008, 00:23	#2 \| Link
Eric69 Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 242	I had the same issue. I guess windows doesn't support DVCProHD. Now I convert to 10bit uncompressed if its 1080 and 8bit uncompressed if its 720p. Like you said - HUGE files!

11th June 2008, 07:05	#3 \| Link
guada2 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lyon Posts: 194	Hello izank tha bizank, - and Adobe pro CS3? - Have you try the demo of RAYLIGHT (a little plug in) - or HD file Converter Pro Bye.

11th June 2008, 21:57	#5 \| Link
guada2 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lyon Posts: 194	@tizank tha bizank - Why Cinevision? - Have you tried others software?

12th June 2008, 21:13	#8 \| Link
Eric69 Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 242	A terabyte is only about $250 (US) these days. For 2 hours film it take about 8 hours of encoding time. Main Concepts take about 2x that.

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tizank tha bizank Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 41	Hey Eric, I did a test conversion of a small piece and it did work. I need to go get a new drive and swap my setup a bit. i used to capture on 2 Raptor drives (74gb and 150gb) so I'm going to pull the 74gb, and throw in a TB. I went with CineVision because I had liked the segment re-encoding for true control of the look of everything. It's my first time getting into this. My standard def encoding is so simple and straightforward and easy, so there's just more to learn on doing the Blu-Ray. Hopefully I'll be good to go soon. I thinking I'll end up having to get a RAID setup for uncompressed capturing.