madVR - high quality video renderer (GPU assisted) - Page 2394

AttackSharply · 20th December 2017, 22:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryrynz

He means not enabling Fullscreen Exclusive (FSE) mode.

If that means I can't use fullscreen then perhaps I should just stick with EVR as a renderer ?

I don't even have a real need for MadVR anyways.

ryrynz · 20th December 2017, 22:43

You don't need FSE mode. I haven't used it in years.
There are lots of benefits to using madVR in comparison to EVR, but ultimately it's your decision.

AttackSharply · 20th December 2017, 22:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryrynz

You don't need FSE mode. I haven't used it in years.
There are lots of benefits to using madVR in comparison to EVR, but ultimately it's your decision.

I wasn't aware there was a normal fullscreen option for MadVR is my point.

Do I disable "Enable automatic fullscreen exclusive mode" ?

Asmodian · 20th December 2017, 23:01

Yes, the newest madVR also defaults to FSE disabled.

Siso · 20th December 2017, 23:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by AttackSharply

I wasn't aware there was a normal fullscreen option for MadVR is my point.

Do I disable "Enable automatic fullscreen exclusive mode" ?

Like ryrynz, I don't use FSE, in the latest madvr, FSE is not ticked by default.

AttackSharply · 20th December 2017, 23:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asmodian

Yes, the newest madVR also defaults to FSE disabled.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Siso

Like ryrynz, I don't use FSE, in the latest madvr, FSE is not ticked by default.

So according to that link in Asmodian's sig, its only benefit is for 10bit and above and maybe performs slightly faster ?

Asmodian · 20th December 2017, 23:31

It is not even required for 10-bit anymore, if you are using DX11.

Edit: updated my options explained post, that info was out of date. Does anyone know if you still need FSE for 10-bit in Windows 7/8?

nussman · 21st December 2017, 00:27

Hi madshi,

is D3D11 DXVA Deinterlacing still on your to do list? I am not asking for an ETA, but would like to know if there are technical issues or only just lack of time.

YGPMOLE · 21st December 2017, 02:46

A (stupid) question: my external DAC provides only 1080p HDMI output, so if in the future I'll want to reach a 2K or 4K display I should use both the two HDMI output from the graphic card (one for video to the display, the other for audio to the DAC), but in this case I'll lost the Exclusive mode of madVR, am I right? Do exist a way to avoid it?

Asmodian · 21st December 2017, 02:58

That would not change anything with regards to madVR, madVR does not care what the audio is doing.

YGPMOLE · 21st December 2017, 03:12

Thanks Asmodian, but as far as I know madVR works better in Exclusive mode than otherwise, or not?

I've also found out that, depending if I'm using duplicate or extended desktop output, the driver set the RX480 in different way: in duplicate mode Windows loose the DAC (says "not connected) because the driver feels that the projector isn't an audio device; in extended mode the DAC becomes the main device and I loose the PJ abilities, like HDR or 2/4K...

ryrynz · 21st December 2017, 03:24

It used to work better a couple of years back or so but windowed mode works just as well now.

Asmodian · 21st December 2017, 04:02

Due to both exclusive mode getting worse and windowed mode getting better in Windows 10.

chros · 21st December 2017, 09:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asmodian

Does anyone know if you still need FSE for 10-bit in Windows 7/8?

I just checked it 2 weeks ago, when you first started to talk about it:
yes, you need FSE on Win8 for 10bit, and it only works with new path not the old path using dx9, and using dx10.

x7007 · 21st December 2017, 10:27

For some reason I don't have the white dots anymore even with compression disabled...

Not sure where the issue came from... so many weird issues.

EDIT : ha nope, they are back

https://imgur.com/aIdtLu9

Anyone knows what the issue causing this thing ? it worked fine SOMEHOW and I didn't change anything.

Setting the Black Level from LOW to HIGH make the white dots disappear but ruins the picture .

Setting in MadVR black level instead 0-255 to 16-235 fix the issue also but also ruins the picture... so it's something with MadVR can't show properly HDR.

Or maybe it's just the compression of the movies ? but how come no one see them too.. maybe no one is using MadVR and using 16-235 ? or Black Level High ? because there is no other way.

In movie Fifty.Shades.Darker.2017 I don't have white dots at all. so could this be the movies specifically ?

Backflash · 21st December 2017, 11:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by YGPMOLE

A (stupid) question: my external DAC provides only 1080p HDMI output

What? you may as well run audio through graphics card, they all provide hdmi audio drivers. What model of "DAC" is this? Sounds weird.

HillieSan · 21st December 2017, 12:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by x7007

For some reason I don't have the white dots anymore even with compression disabled...

Not sure where the issue came from... so many weird issues.

EDIT : ha nope, they are back

https://imgur.com/aIdtLu9

Anyone knows what the issue causing this thing ? it worked fine SOMEHOW and I didn't change anything.

Setting the Black Level from LOW to HIGH make the white dots disappear but ruins the picture .

Setting in MadVR black level instead 0-255 to 16-235 fix the issue also but also ruins the picture... so it's something with MadVR can't show properly HDR.

Or maybe it's just the compression of the movies ? but how come no one see them too.. maybe no one is using MadVR and using 16-235 ? or Black Level High ? because there is no other way.

In movie Fifty.Shades.Darker.2017 I don't have white dots at all. so could this be the movies specifically ?

First thing I would do is testing another HDMI cable.

mclingo · 21st December 2017, 13:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by x7007

For some reason I don't have the white dots anymore even with compression disabled...

Not sure where the issue came from... so many weird issues.

EDIT : ha nope, they are back

https://imgur.com/aIdtLu9

Anyone knows what the issue causing this thing ? it worked fine SOMEHOW and I didn't change anything.

Setting the Black Level from LOW to HIGH make the white dots disappear but ruins the picture .

Setting in MadVR black level instead 0-255 to 16-235 fix the issue also but also ruins the picture... so it's something with MadVR can't show properly HDR.

Or maybe it's just the compression of the movies ? but how come no one see them too.. maybe no one is using MadVR and using 16-235 ? or Black Level High ? because there is no other way.

In movie Fifty.Shades.Darker.2017 I don't have white dots at all. so could this be the movies specifically ?

ok, lets go through a process of elimination, start by providing some details about your setup.

Windows version:
Windows desktop resolution:
Pixel: eg, 4:4:4 Full rgb or 4:2:0 YBCR
TV details, 4k?
HDMI cable speed, 18gbps?
Madvr colour space setting, 16-235 or 0-255
Graphics card model:
Graphics card dynamic range setting:
do you use a receiver or is the PC connected direct to the TV?
Do you have a 4k bluray player, does it do the same thing using the same cable and HDMI port?

Sebastiii · 21st December 2017, 13:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldpainlesskodi

Just had a Win10 update with a new version of the core OS today (insider build 17063) and HDR is fixed.........it installs by default nvidia driver 382.53

K

On my side, the upgrade failed GSOD !

KaBoS · 21st December 2017, 15:05

Hi ,Thank you for all developers madVR

My device Intel - NUC6CAYH - Windows 10 64b

I made all the recommended Settings in (NUC + MPC-HC + madVR) i Follow guide in (AVSForum)

But I have a problem When you open a movie

Small screen madVR working Good But when you show the Full screen

The image is abnormal I fell Like too too much Judder

look at this

https://www.dropbox.com/s/poel13lspo...D9%A5.mp4?dl=0

This problem appears when used madVR

When using the default Filter , No problems .

20th December 2017, 23:01	#47864 \| Link
Asmodian Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: San Jose, California Posts: 4,407	Yes, the newest madVR also defaults to FSE disabled. __________________ madVR options explained

20th December 2017, 23:31	#47867 \| Link
Asmodian Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: San Jose, California Posts: 4,407	It is not even required for 10-bit anymore, if you are using DX11. Edit: updated my options explained post, that info was out of date. Does anyone know if you still need FSE for 10-bit in Windows 7/8? __________________ madVR options explained Last edited by Asmodian; 20th December 2017 at 23:33.

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YGPMOLE Registered User Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 32	A (stupid) question: my external DAC provides only 1080p HDMI output, so if in the future I'll want to reach a 2K or 4K display I should use both the two HDMI output from the graphic card (one for video to the display, the other for audio to the DAC), but in this case I'll lost the Exclusive mode of madVR, am I right? Do exist a way to avoid it? __________________ Best Regards! Leo!

21st December 2017, 02:58	#47870 \| Link
Asmodian Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: San Jose, California Posts: 4,407	That would not change anything with regards to madVR, madVR does not care what the audio is doing. __________________ madVR options explained

21st December 2017, 03:12	#47871 \| Link
YGPMOLE Registered User Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 32	Thanks Asmodian, but as far as I know madVR works better in Exclusive mode than otherwise, or not? I've also found out that, depending if I'm using duplicate or extended desktop output, the driver set the RX480 in different way: in duplicate mode Windows loose the DAC (says "not connected) because the driver feels that the projector isn't an audio device; in extended mode the DAC becomes the main device and I loose the PJ abilities, like HDR or 2/4K... __________________ Best Regards! Leo! Last edited by YGPMOLE; 21st December 2017 at 03:31.

20th December 2017, 22:43	#47862 \| Link
ryrynz Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 3,650	You don't need FSE mode. I haven't used it in years. There are lots of benefits to using madVR in comparison to EVR, but ultimately it's your decision.

21st December 2017, 00:27	#47868 \| Link
nussman Registered User Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 238	Hi madshi, is D3D11 DXVA Deinterlacing still on your to do list? I am not asking for an ETA, but would like to know if there are technical issues or only just lack of time.

21st December 2017, 03:24	#47872 \| Link
ryrynz Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 3,650	It used to work better a couple of years back or so but windowed mode works just as well now.

21st December 2017, 04:02	#47873 \| Link
Asmodian Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: San Jose, California Posts: 4,407	Due to both exclusive mode getting worse and windowed mode getting better in Windows 10. __________________ madVR options explained

21st December 2017, 10:27	#47875 \| Link
x7007 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 315	For some reason I don't have the white dots anymore even with compression disabled... Not sure where the issue came from... so many weird issues. EDIT : ha nope, they are back https://imgur.com/aIdtLu9 Anyone knows what the issue causing this thing ? it worked fine SOMEHOW and I didn't change anything. Setting the Black Level from LOW to HIGH make the white dots disappear but ruins the picture . Setting in MadVR black level instead 0-255 to 16-235 fix the issue also but also ruins the picture... so it's something with MadVR can't show properly HDR. Or maybe it's just the compression of the movies ? but how come no one see them too.. maybe no one is using MadVR and using 16-235 ? or Black Level High ? because there is no other way. In movie Fifty.Shades.Darker.2017 I don't have white dots at all. so could this be the movies specifically ? Last edited by x7007; 21st December 2017 at 11:34.

21st December 2017, 15:05	#47880 \| Link
KaBoS Registered User Join Date: Nov 2017 Posts: 2	Hi ,Thank you for all developers madVR My device Intel - NUC6CAYH - Windows 10 64b I made all the recommended Settings in (NUC + MPC-HC + madVR) i Follow guide in (AVSForum) But I have a problem When you open a movie Small screen madVR working Good But when you show the Full screen The image is abnormal I fell Like too too much Judder look at this https://www.dropbox.com/s/poel13lspo...D9%A5.mp4?dl=0 This problem appears when used madVR When using the default Filter , No problems . Last edited by KaBoS; 21st December 2017 at 15:08.