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12th March 2007, 16:06 | #1021 | Link |
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Thanks for pointing me in the right direction, zgx EDIT: and clsid. I couldn't get the original FLAC decoder to connect after Haali's splitter (different media subtype), but your alternatives should help me out!
I'll see if there is a separate Haali-compatible decoder for WavPack too. I really could use the delay after demuxing HD-DVDs -somehow this delay information is lost after the conversion! I suppose I can find a WAV utility to add the required silence, but again that is outside my expertise. BTW, I've been experimenting with WMA Lossless. The file size is much larger than expected, and it doesn't help that the conversion tool (using WMP10 I think) has a 4 GB limit with WAVs - it will only convert up to 74 minutes and 13 seconds, and not tell me it ignored the rest! Blah. Oh well - I can't mux a WMA Lossless stream into an MKV anyways. Although MPC can load it as an external soundtrack and works VERY nicely I might add - until you hit the silence after 74:13. Also, it appears that gdsmux does not support FLAC. When I try to mux it in, it thrashes around for a few seconds on the hard disk, and then it does nothing forever after that - and leaves me with a 0 byte MKV file. So I guess you must use MKVToolNix for the time being. Last edited by Rectal Prolapse; 12th March 2007 at 17:34. |
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http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...726#post958726
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EDIT: It appears to work with gdsmux though.... Last edited by Rectal Prolapse; 13th March 2007 at 00:19. |
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(1) E-AC3 to 640kbit AC3 + advantage: final AC3 is 640kbit instead of 448kbit - disadvantage: encoded + reencoded, both lossy (2) 448kbit AC3 from DVD + advantage: encoded only once - disadvantage: final AC3 is 448kbit instead of 640kbit So which sounds better? I'm not very experienced in comparing soundtracks. So I'm not sure whether I can trust my ears. I'd really love to hear some comments about what you guys think. |
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Lossless Source -> 640 Kbps E-AC3 -> 640 Kbps AC3 Lossless Source -> 448 Kbps AC3 I'm not sure if I could hear any difference in a ABX test but I don't want to take any chances so I prefere to play the E-AC3 track directly. There is no need to reencode it. Configure your favorite player (ZoomPlayer or MPC for example) to decode "AC3" with "Sonic Cinemaster Audio Decoder 4.2". Then put AC3Filter "behind" the Sonic filter and you should be able to decode E-AC3 tracks. Of course you can't use S/PDIF with E-AC3 unless you are fine with AC3Filter doing a realtime "reencode" to AC3. You can also mux a E-AC3 tracks with your video in a MKV container. |
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Are you guessing or did you do a real comparison?
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I do plan to mux both the E-AC3 (for future use) and an AC3 (for compatability) track into my MKVs. The big question is whether I should mux a DVD ripped AC3 track or whether I should mux an E-AC3 -> AC3 converted track. That's really a tough decision! |
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hello all,
nice forum & helpful!! so, let me say that i love win media center. for that reason i want to copy my 13+ hd-dvds (just the pure movie evos) on a new 500 gig hdd. yesterday i just installed sonic decoder pack and it worked! but only on one pc. on the other it won't work whether just playing in mce or in graphedit (audio dec. v. 4.2.xxx.102 , video dec. xxx140 & demuxer xxx61) furthermore i can't connect for example demuxer with audio dec! (no "zwischenfilter") could you please post your ver. numbers and if the filters can be connected so we can figure out which versions work & which is the newest! olli |
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You are probably right. |
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Well guys, I write it something like this:
I compared only output formats: AC3 vs DTS vs OGG, all in blind ABX test on my headphones Koss Porta Pro...soundcard M-Audio Revo 5.1 (muxed 5.1 to 2.0 first). I test this: - AC3 from BeSweet 448,640kbps - DTS from SurCode 1536,768kbps - OGG from AoTuV Q6,Q5,Q4,Q3,Q2,Q1. Definitely, I must say I can't hear any diferences between this formats. Only in case DTS 768 I hear very-very-small difference (I suspects SurCode for producing bad crap). I've been only surprised, OGG produced very good quality in small, acceptable biterate...I can't hear any difference even at biterate around 180-200kbps!!! I hear margin, until I lowered biterate to aprox 160kbps. Other thing: When I do ABX tests, I must gain volume in AC3 about 6-8dB compared DTS and OGG formats. OGG and DTS had almost the same level of volume...this is very good, because OGG sounds like DTS, not like crappy silent AC3. So I choose for me OGG. But pros for AC3: when boosted, it sounds like DTS or OGG (I can't hear any difference). I can't make hear tests DD+ vs AC3, coz in my region, I have PAL DVD's which have different pitch of audio track...and transcoding via besweet 25->23.976fps is another quality lost. But if I can say in my fleeting test...AC3 from DD+ sounds better. J.
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