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Old 29th July 2015, 20:27   #32241  |  Link
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http://forums.guru3d.com/showpost.ph...7&postcount=14
As you can see something really weird is going on.
I really hope this is not NVIDIA playing dirty.
Maybe, but maybe it's just guru3d staff doing things by mistake.
They were also very incompetent when that GTX 970 issue came up. Well, even their reviews suck. But their forums are highly frequented by users and people were complaining there that NNEDI3 stopped working.
My post which disappeared was information about the issue and asked users to complain to Nvidia about it.
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Old 29th July 2015, 20:44   #32242  |  Link
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My render, upload and present queue doesn't get filled (1-3/16) when using 1080p60 no problem if i choose 1080p23 (FSE) in win 10 using AMD card no problem in windowed mode.

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Old 30th July 2015, 00:24   #32243  |  Link
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353.49 hotfix driver is best for this purpose. It's not WHQL, but unlike 353.30, it contains important fixes to prevent driver crashes on the desktop/while surfing.

Edit: Fixed driver numbers.
Is that for Win 10 or Win 7? Is this issue with Win10 only or is Win7 also affected? (sorry, late to the party)

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Old 30th July 2015, 00:45   #32244  |  Link
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nVidia driver 353.62 now available at nVidia's website. Is the same issue of NNEDI3 not working still there?
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Old 30th July 2015, 00:46   #32245  |  Link
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A new GeForce driver is out to accompany the release of Windows 10, only available on www.geforce.com at the moment:

32-bit GeForce Game Ready Driver 353.62 for Windows Vista, 7, 8 and 8.1
64-bit GeForce Game Ready Driver 353.62 for Windows Vista, 7, 8 and 8.1
32-bit GeForce Windows 10 Driver 353.62
64-bit GeForce Windows 10 Driver 353.62

Has anyone tried these yet to see if they have D3D9 OpenCL interop?
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Old 30th July 2015, 00:49   #32246  |  Link
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Is that for Win 10 or Win 7? Is this issue with Win10 only or is Win7 also affected? (sorry, late to the party)
You can easily find this out by yourself:
http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answe...-driver-353.49

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nVidia driver 353.62 now available at nVidia's website. Is the same issue of NNEDI3 not working still there?
It's the very same driver as provided via Windows Update (just sorts out a control panel issue on x64) and so of course NNEDI3 OpenCL isn't working.
Miracles can happen, but better don't expect a fix anytime soon.
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Old 30th July 2015, 01:51   #32247  |  Link
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You can easily find this out by yourself:
http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answe...-driver-353.49


It's the very same driver as provided via Windows Update (just sorts out a control panel issue on x64) and so of course NNEDI3 OpenCL isn't working.
Miracles can happen, but better don't expect a fix anytime soon.
In case NVidia ditches the needed extension, is there a chance madshi will create a work-around via Direct Compute or something similar? I mean its obviously NVidia's problem, but that means Windows 10 will not be viable for madVR for NVidia users, which is like watching a cute red panda die , but we all kow madshi would never let a red panda die .

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Old 30th July 2015, 02:08   #32248  |  Link
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Guys, I really need your expertise with a problem I am encountering.
First, lots of thank you's to madshi for his continuous work, now a few words about my setup: I am using a GTX 970, i5-760, 8 GB RAM for watching 1080p-only high quality mkv encodes. I am also using mpc-hc x64 with latest madvr and LAV Filters. I am sending the video signal through HDMI from my computer to an Onkyo receiver that is connected to a 46" Samsung TV set.
madvr's settings are as follows: chroma upscaling super-xbr (sharpness: 100, anti-ringing and SuperRes filters checked), image downscaling Catmull-Rom (anti-ringing and scale in linear light checked), image doubling always super-xbr sharpness:100, image upscaling Lanczos (3 taps, activate anti-ringing filter checked), upscaling refinement SuperRes (strenght 4, radius 0.66, refine the image only once after upscaling is complete and apply SuperRes first checked). I don't know if these are the best settings for 1080p encodes and for my system, any recommendation is welcomed, but without ReClock I am having a lot of repeated frames, one frame at 40+ seconds. ReClock is not an option for x64 and for my setup in particular, as LAV Audio bitstreams the audio to the receiver, therefore ReClock won't work, even when using x86 versions of mpchc and madvr. I have attached a screenshot, maybe you will be able to tell me what to do with the repeated frames problem.
Thank you for your help!
movies are usually 24000/1001 hz (it is called 23p) not 24 hz, you should use 23p not 24p for this file in question.

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In case NVidia ditches the needed extension, is there a chance madshi will create a work-around via Direct Compute or something similar? I mean its obviously NVidia's problem, but that means Windows 10 will not be viable for madVR for NVidia users, which is like watching a cute red panda die , but we all kow madshi would never let a red panda die .
http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?...ostcount=32210

wasn't he clear enough?
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Old 30th July 2015, 02:16   #32249  |  Link
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movies are usually 24000/1001 hz (it is called 23p) not 24 hz, you should use 23p not 24p for this file in question.



http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?...ostcount=32210

wasn't he clear enough?

In the past there was another similar issue that was NVidia's fault, but madshi found a way around it and NVidia never fixed it...
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Old 30th July 2015, 02:17   #32250  |  Link
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Can't you like dump the dlls into the player's folder for it to work? noob question~
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Old 30th July 2015, 04:21   #32251  |  Link
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I am unable to play any videos using MPC-HC nightly and MadVR latest in Windows 10 (Yeah I know it's only just come out as final etc). I get a Direct3D creation error. I have tried fresh installs of both and set MadVR to FSE off etc. AMD R9 290 BTW with latest Catalyst drivers for Win10.

If you need more info let me know but yeah it does it on all 3 monitors.
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Old 30th July 2015, 09:12   #32252  |  Link
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My render, upload and present queue doesn't get filled (1-3/16) when using 1080p60 no problem if i choose 1080p23 (FSE) in win 10 using AMD card no problem in windowed mode.
Ok . It's Direct3D 11 that's causing the problem. Newest driver from AMD on Windows 10 PRO x64

No problem in windowed mode.

EDIT: Have to mention, no problem with win 7 on the same machine.

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Old 30th July 2015, 13:00   #32253  |  Link
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Ok . It's Direct3D 11 that's causing the problem. Newest driver from AMD on Windows 10 PRO x64

No problem in windowed mode.

EDIT: Have to mention, no problem with win 7 on the same machine.
Same issue here on Win10Pro/CCC15.7.1, but I think it's cosmetic because I've watched 2 complete movies (almost five hours) and had only one dropped frame in each and that was at playback startup.

fwiw, in Windowed mode, it would drop a frame about every 3 minutes even though queue stats were "full" reported.
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Old 30th July 2015, 13:25   #32254  |  Link
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http://i.imgur.com/lGhI6YU.jpg

I tried installing DX9 and DX11 in Win10 and it made no difference. I also tried an in place upgrade of Win10 to see if it fixed anything. I also tried switching to the 4770K iGPU since it works on my laptops iGPU with Win10 installed just fine. No go on my main PC. Disabling FSE and changing to DX11 presentation makes no difference either. Ideas?

EDIT: OK I tried MadVR with MPC-BE and it works!

So I think there is an issue with MPC-HC's inbuilt LAV filters. I will test with some external filters like ffdshow or LAV external. I also noticed the other renderers mess up too like EVR custom preset and sync (I get a small video in the top left corner of MPC-HC and the rest is black space). I will check the LAV thread to see if anyone else has mentioned an issue since upgrading to Win10.

EDIT2: ffdshow made no difference as a decoder so I am thinking the error is caused by LAV splitter. I will have to try Haali to test...

EDIT3 Nope! It seems to be something intrinsyc to MPC-HC. I tried ffdshow as the video decoder and Haali as the splitter and still get the same problem.

Filters currently loaded:
- Default DirectSound Device
- madVR
- Audio Switcher
- ffdshow Video Decoder
- LAV Audio Decoder (internal)
- Haali Media Splitter

So I don't really know where to go from here. Madshi can you have a look into this for me?

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Old 30th July 2015, 14:37   #32255  |  Link
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So how many people actually contacted NVidia via their Feedback support bug submission? That is the BEST way, IMHO, to relay information directly to NVidia. GeForce or Guru3D or whichever other forums are NOT a good place to talk about things like D3D9 <-> OpenCL Interop support because those forums are for general public and problems (most of which are user errors), not HTPC madVR niche.
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Old 30th July 2015, 14:55   #32256  |  Link
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I'm having a similar problem as oddball with Windows 10 Pro. Only real difference is that i have an MSI AMD R7 265 OC using Catalyst 15.7.1 , Driver version 15.20.1062.1002(The latest driver specifically for Windows 10 directly from the AMD website not from Windows update.) and I'm getting a black screen, audio is fine. I tried switching to EVR custom with the same MPC-HC and the video shows perfectly fine. So I'm pretty sure it's madVR and not MPC-HC or the built-in LAV filters, for me anyway.
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Old 30th July 2015, 15:04   #32257  |  Link
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I'm using amd dual graphic laptop
if I set mpc-hc to high performance in catalyst
and set madvr to d3d11, it will crash "only" when entering windowed fullscreen mode.

d3d9 doesn't have any problem also d3d11 in windowed and FSE run fine.

edit: win 10
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Old 30th July 2015, 15:08   #32258  |  Link
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D3D9 interop has been removed deliberately:
https://forums.geforce.com/default/t...18371/#4618371

So, chances that it will come back are not best.
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Old 30th July 2015, 16:00   #32259  |  Link
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D3D9 interop has been removed deliberately:
https://forums.geforce.com/default/t...18371/#4618371

So, chances that it will come back are not best.
I wouldn't say that his statement said "removed deliberately", it could also mean "it didn't work, hence disabled". He does state that its not clear how future support is going to look, he doesn't say its never coming back.
madshi should totally just switch everything to D3D11.
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Old 30th July 2015, 16:39   #32260  |  Link
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"not supported on Windows 10" sounds very much deliberately to me.
Well, it's a stupid statement anyway, since it works without any issues with WDDM 2.0 353.49 driver on Windows 10 (or 353.30, which even is WHQL).

I'm somewhat afraid that if madshi fully switches to D3D11, unknown nasty driver issues will show up. Even with current D3D11 mode users have more trouble than with D3D9.
With a SM5.0 NNEDI3 implementation this wouldn't be an issue.
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