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Old 3rd September 2018, 20:51   #561  |  Link
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Hi Asmodian,

First off, thanks for your preset configs which have helped me tremendously in tweaking my settings.

I had a few more questions, though. I have a 1080 Ti as well, but my screen resolution is only 1440p. I've gone through with hardware calibration and all, therefore I am looking to tweak your settings a little more since with less upscaling to be done, shouldn't there be some more hidden potential? Since my sources are quite good, I already changed a couple upscaling NGU AAs to NGU Sharp.

Also, are your presets more of a general use case or specific, like for Anime and such?

I'd appreciate any help.

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Old 3rd September 2018, 21:35   #562  |  Link
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Watching 1080p at 1440p is actually harder than watching 1080p at 4K. For 4K you simply double it (with NGU) but with 1440p you have to downscale it afterwards. I do not think there is anything to improve for watching at 1440p.

My presets are intended to be general but I do want Anime to look good as part of that. I might chose different settings if I didn't need Anime to look good as well but it would not be very different (i.e. changing NGU AA to NGU Sharp).
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Old 24th October 2018, 20:14   #563  |  Link
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Great guide, but I wonder if you could provide a simple table of viable settings for 720p\1080p content on a 1080p monitor, the most common scenario. It can be rather difficult to figure out which settings are completely superfluous in that case, and which algorithms aren't wasted. At the moment I'm just using all Lanczos 3 AR (LL, SL) with smooth motion if judder is detected and no extras. I assume any doubling/quadrupling is pointless, but are refinements/other algorithms? I appreciate that you have provided the settings.bin, but I'd much rather have a nice table to figure it out and have some choice myself.

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Old 22nd November 2018, 22:33   #564  |  Link
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Hi,

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this display is already calibrated: [BT.709, pure power curve, 2.20] This sets the current display characteristics. The gamut option affects the conversions used by madVR when playing video with different gamuts but the gamma options only have an effect when using the 'enable gamma processing' option in 'color & gamma'.
This is not totally true if HDR --> SDR conversion is used, at least with "tone map HDR using pixels shaders" option (I didn't tried other HDR options).
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Old 22nd November 2018, 22:35   #565  |  Link
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yes HDR-SDR it is inconsistent and you can get all kinds of gamma if it it used with gamma processing.
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Old 22nd November 2018, 22:50   #566  |  Link
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I would to like to say that the gamma options have an effect even if the 'enable gamma processing' option in 'color & gamma' is not used at all, in case of HDR->SDR conversion
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Old 22nd November 2018, 22:58   #567  |  Link
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kind of but i still hope madshi makes it more transparent first.
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Old 22nd November 2018, 23:09   #568  |  Link
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Thanks huhn
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Old 5th December 2018, 02:56   #569  |  Link
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Finally updated for madVR v0.92.17.

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This is not totally true if HDR --> SDR conversion is used, at least with "tone map HDR using pixels shaders" option (I didn't tried other HDR options).
Thanks! I updated that description to reflect this.
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Old 25th January 2019, 12:48   #570  |  Link
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Hi,

The link for Max Quality settings.bin doesn't work.
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Old 7th February 2019, 15:50   #571  |  Link
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Finally updated for madVR v0.92.17.



Thanks! I updated that description to reflect this.
Hello! Thank you for your guide.

Can you,please, reupload file with max quality settings?
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Sorry, I am currently traveling and do not have access to the file where I am.

Edit: it looks like the link changed when I updated for 0.92.17, it doesn't usually do that. I have updated the link.
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I just looked through your settings for max quality and low power, I'm wondering why do you use NGU anti-alias for image doubling, instead of NGU sharp?
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Old 12th March 2019, 23:30   #574  |  Link
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I kept encountering content that looked weird with NGU sharp, AA seems the most universally good version of NGU.

It is especially true for lower budget anime. I am not sure what they do but it often has some damage that is not related to compression, odd aliasing on edges that NGU sharp preserves too well. I do change to NGU sharp with some content.

NGU sharp can also have a "plastic" look with some content, even live action, that doesn't happen with NGU AA.

I sit pretty close to my TV so that weird look from NGU sharp is too obvious, and NGU AA doesn't do it at all.
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NGU sharp can also have a "plastic" look with some content, even live action, that doesn't happen with NGU AA.

I sit pretty close to my TV so that weird look from NGU sharp is too obvious, and NGU AA doesn't do it at all.
I think most people with projectors and large screens would use NGU sharp wouldnt they?

My scope screen is 145" wide, whenever I test 1080p material upscaled to 4K with madvr and displaying with my JVC NX9 I find NGU AA just too soft. Would this be a general concensus with others using 4K projectors?
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It does depend on the display, please pick whatever looks best to you. My settings are simply what I think looks best, with any content, on my display under my viewing conditions.

I do like the extra sharpness from NGU sharp when it doesn't look weird. A lot of content looks really good with NGU sharp. I think a big part of why NGU sharp sometimes bothers me is that I am pretty close to the display, I can almost resolve pixels. If I move back several feet NGU sharp doesn't bother me nearly as often.

Also, a projector might soften the image a little, which could mitigate the aspect of NGU sharp that bothers me.
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It does depend on the display, please pick whatever looks best to you. My settings are simply what I think looks best, with any content, on my display under my viewing conditions.

I do like the extra sharpness from NGU sharp when it doesn't look weird. A lot of content looks really good with NGU sharp. I think a big part of why NGU sharp sometimes bothers me is that I am pretty close to the display, I can almost resolve pixels. If I move back several feet NGU sharp doesn't bother me nearly as often.

Also, a projector might soften the image a little, which could mitigate the aspect of NGU sharp that bothers me.
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Your settings look very bad to me, to each their own I suppose.

My settings are intended as a place to start, with options that should look good whatever the content and that don't change the image. I have almost all processing off by default and turn it on for specific content if it needs it.

You want to smooth and sharpen the image a lot, it looks artificial to me but if you like it go for it.
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I kept encountering content that looked weird with NGU sharp, AA seems the most universally good version of NGU.

It is especially true for lower budget anime. I am not sure what they do but it often has some damage that is not related to compression, odd aliasing on edges that NGU sharp preserves too well. I do change to NGU sharp with some content.

NGU sharp can also have a "plastic" look with some content, even live action, that doesn't happen with NGU AA.

I sit pretty close to my TV so that weird look from NGU sharp is too obvious, and NGU AA doesn't do it at all.
I understand, but what about NGU Standart as a medium ground between NGU AA and NGU Sharp? What do you think of it?
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Old 13th March 2019, 14:20   #580  |  Link
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I also use NGU sharp with my plasma tv and a modest AMD rx 560 (strictly 1080p file) and I must say that I am very well, thanks also to the guides present here in this forum.
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