Manual: BeSweet Commandline Reference

Brother John · 24th March 2005, 00:01

Hi @all.

We all know that BeSweet's documentation is not what everyone would like it to be. Especially a complete single volume reference of all switches and their meaning is missing. This is my attempt at writing such a reference.

Quote:

From the PDF's introduction
This document contains an overview of all of BeSweet's commandline parameters and their interaction. It is a translation of the German "BeSweet-Kommandozeilenreferenz", which I started because of the lack of good German documentation for BeSweet. But even in English there is no single document summarising BeSweet's abilities. That is why I decided to do a translation.

Recent version available here: http://brother-john.net/besweet-reference.html.

Of course any comments are welcome. I'd really be surprised if there wasn't room for improvement.

Disclaimer *g*: My native language is not English and this is my first serious translation task. You definitely WILL find some weird language. When you do, tell me! I guess ROFL about my funny use of the English language is useful to save a grey and rainy day but that's not really the point of the document ... well, at least not the whole point.

Note to German speaking users:
Die deutsche Version gibt es in diesem Thread auf dem Doom9/Gleitz-Board: Handbuch: BeSweet-Kommandozeilenreferenz.

Kurtnoise · 24th March 2005, 10:02

Very good job Brother John...

I just noticed a little missing :

Quote:

-logfilea <Logdatei>

By the way, it will be very useful for BeSweet beginners I think.

yaz · 24th March 2005, 11:01

vouw ... great worx ... thx a lot !!! but why pdf ?

y

DSPguru · 26th March 2005, 11:10

Impressive work

By a brief look, I found a small errata in page 8 - "if the source file" should obviously be replaced with "if the destination file".
Also, even though "--resample 44.1" (hardwiredly) works, BeSweet's Lame's resample switch should be feeded with "hz" values.

And may i suggest adding a link to BeSweet's FAQ thread ? useful information about channel orderings can be found there.

Cheers,
Dg.

magicclue · 27th March 2005, 01:50

typo page 15,

channel remapping example:

ol,c,r,sl,sr,lfe

daphy · 27th March 2005, 10:32

fine work, THX

ursamtl · 27th March 2005, 14:27

Tremendous work! As for the translation, I'm a technical writer by profession and it looks fine to me. Well done!

Steve.

Brother John · 28th March 2005, 14:30

Thanks for the feedback so far. A corrected version is online (link in the first post). I added a link to the BeSweet FAQ. Good idea, DSPguru.

@yaz
Some prefer PDF, some prefer HTML, some prefer latex source code ...
I had to chose one and was in the mood for PDF this time.

@ursamtl
Good to hear that. Thanks.

Oh, and - though it's almost over - happy Easter!

daphy · 28th March 2005, 14:40

@ursamtl
what about a french translation of this guide

@Brother John
would like to share these guides on needfulthings - hope this okay!

Brother John · 28th March 2005, 15:08

Quote:

Originally posted by daphy
@Brother John
would like to share these guides on needfulthings - hope this okay!

Sure. Go ahead!
When they're up, I'll add a link in the first post.

daphy · 28th March 2005, 16:19

done

ursamtl · 28th March 2005, 17:34

Quote:

Originally posted by daphy
@ursamtl
what about a french translation of this guide

I'd be happy to help out. It's gonna take a little time, however, since I'm in the middle of moving my residence over the next two months.

Brother John · 28th March 2005, 18:33

I second a French translation. That would be really great.

@ursamtl
Look again, it's there: "32 bit floating point waves without a size limit."

Maybe the line got moved to page 4? Though fonts are embedded, so this should not happen.

ursamtl · 28th March 2005, 19:14

Yes, I missed the bit about 32-bit files on first reading. I'm already working on the French translation.

bond · 28th March 2005, 19:24

cool stuff, thx Brother John

Brother John · 28th March 2005, 21:26

Quote:

Originally posted by ursamtl
I'm already working on the French translation.

That's great news!
Would it be any help for you to have the OpenOffice document? I temporarily put it up here: http://home.arcor.de/brotherjohn_zeug/bs_clref_sxw.zip.

Sectie.B just pointed out another typo via PM. Page 3, chapter 3.1 "The -core() Section". Right at the beginning in the syntax overview. "-playload" should of course read "-payload".

I won't upload a new version just because of that. Let's wait a little, if more errors pop up.

KpeX · 29th March 2005, 18:20

I put an open-office converted HTML version up here and a link to this thread in the besweet FAQ. Nice work brother john

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spyrus · 22nd June 2005, 19:20

My bat file i am using is this:
BeSweet.exe -core( -input 714.wav -output 714.mp3 -wavmp3 -logfile 714.log ) -lame( -b 224 )

I have the log file here:

BeSweet v1.5b29 by DSPguru.
--------------------------
Using lame_enc.dll v1.32 (8/8/2003), Engine 3.90 <http://www.mp3dev.org/>.

Logging start : 06/22/05 , 21:10:39.

BeSweet.exe -core( -input 714.wav -output 714.mp3 -wavmp3 -logfile 714.log ) -lame( -b 224 )

[00:00:00:000] +------- BeSweet -----
[00:00:00:000] | Input : 714.wav
[00:00:00:000] | Output: 714.mp3
[00:00:00:000] | RIFF header will be added
[00:00:00:000] | Floating-Point Process: Yes
[00:00:00:000] | Source Sample-Rate: 44.1KHz
[00:00:00:000] +-------- LAME -------
[00:00:00:000] | Bitrate method : CBR
[00:00:00:000] | MP3 bitrate : 224
[00:00:00:000] | Channels Mode : Joint Stereo
[00:00:00:000] | Error Protection: No
[00:00:00:000] +---------------------
[00:21:52:279] Conversion Completed !
[00:21:52:279] Actual Avg. Bitrate : 223kbps
[00:01:06:000] <-- Transcoding Duration

Logging ends : 06/22/05 , 21:11:45.

Is there a switch that i can use in order to have error correction?
There is no comment for that on your pdf

By the way i am using virtual dub mod to extract wav out of an mpeg file...

Thx in advance,Spyrus

Brother John · 22nd June 2005, 21:21

You can enable error protection with the -p switch:

Code:

-lame( -b 224 -p )

However I remember someone (could have been Gabriel Bouvigne himself) stating that error protection is pretty useless. I forgot his arguments, though.

tebasuna51 · 22nd June 2005, 23:13

In Lame.html, subfolder Help of BeSweet:

" -p error protection
Turn on CRC error protection.
It will add a cyclic redundancy check (CRC) code in each frame, allowing to detect transmission errors that could occur on the MP3 stream. However, it takes 16 bits per frame that would otherwise be used for encoding, and then will slightly reduce the sound quality. "

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daphy Miles Freak Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Europe Posts: 652	fine work, THX __________________ CYA Daphy

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Brother John (schein)heilig Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 512	Thanks for the feedback so far. A corrected version is online (link in the first post). I added a link to the BeSweet FAQ. Good idea, DSPguru. @yaz Some prefer PDF, some prefer HTML, some prefer latex source code ... I had to chose one and was in the mood for PDF this time. @ursamtl Good to hear that. Thanks. Oh, and - though it's almost over - happy Easter! __________________ Brother John When lost in BeSweet's options, have a look at the Commandline Reference. DVD nach MPEG-4 klappt nicht? Verzweifelt? Auf zum Encodingwissen!

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daphy Miles Freak Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Europe Posts: 652	@ursamtl what about a french translation of this guide @Brother John would like to share these guides on needfulthings - hope this okay! __________________ CYA Daphy

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yaz n00b ever Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 627	vouw ... great worx ... thx a lot !!! but why pdf ? y

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ursamtl Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Montreal Posts: 729	Tremendous work! As for the translation, I'm a technical writer by profession and it looks fine to me. Well done! Steve.

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daphy Miles Freak Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Europe Posts: 652	done __________________ CYA Daphy

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Brother John (schein)heilig Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 512	I second a French translation. That would be really great. @ursamtl Look again, it's there: "32 bit floating point waves without a size limit." Maybe the line got moved to page 4? Though fonts are embedded, so this should not happen. __________________ Brother John When lost in BeSweet's options, have a look at the Commandline Reference. DVD nach MPEG-4 klappt nicht? Verzweifelt? Auf zum Encodingwissen!

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ursamtl Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Montreal Posts: 729	Yes, I missed the bit about 32-bit files on first reading. I'm already working on the French translation.

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spyrus Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 2	My bat file i am using is this: BeSweet.exe -core( -input 714.wav -output 714.mp3 -wavmp3 -logfile 714.log ) -lame( -b 224 ) I have the log file here: BeSweet v1.5b29 by DSPguru. -------------------------- Using lame_enc.dll v1.32 (8/8/2003), Engine 3.90 <http://www.mp3dev.org/>. Logging start : 06/22/05 , 21:10:39. BeSweet.exe -core( -input 714.wav -output 714.mp3 -wavmp3 -logfile 714.log ) -lame( -b 224 ) [00:00:00:000] +------- BeSweet ----- [00:00:00:000] \| Input : 714.wav [00:00:00:000] \| Output: 714.mp3 [00:00:00:000] \| RIFF header will be added [00:00:00:000] \| Floating-Point Process: Yes [00:00:00:000] \| Source Sample-Rate: 44.1KHz [00:00:00:000] +-------- LAME ------- [00:00:00:000] \| Bitrate method : CBR [00:00:00:000] \| MP3 bitrate : 224 [00:00:00:000] \| Channels Mode : Joint Stereo [00:00:00:000] \| Error Protection: No [00:00:00:000] +--------------------- [00:21:52:279] Conversion Completed ! [00:21:52:279] Actual Avg. Bitrate : 223kbps [00:01:06:000] <-- Transcoding Duration Logging ends : 06/22/05 , 21:11:45. Is there a switch that i can use in order to have error correction? There is no comment for that on your pdf By the way i am using virtual dub mod to extract wav out of an mpeg file... Thx in advance,Spyrus __________________ C++ Software engineering on Sun Blade 150 Greece Last edited by spyrus; 22nd June 2005 at 19:25.

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Brother John (schein)heilig Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 512	You can enable error protection with the -p switch: Code: -lame( -b 224 -p ) However I remember someone (could have been Gabriel Bouvigne himself) stating that error protection is pretty useless. I forgot his arguments, though. __________________ Brother John When lost in BeSweet's options, have a look at the Commandline Reference. DVD nach MPEG-4 klappt nicht? Verzweifelt? Auf zum Encodingwissen!

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tebasuna51 Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Spain Posts: 6,914	In Lame.html, subfolder Help of BeSweet: " -p error protection Turn on CRC error protection. It will add a cyclic redundancy check (CRC) code in each frame, allowing to detect transmission errors that could occur on the MP3 stream. However, it takes 16 bits per frame that would otherwise be used for encoding, and then will slightly reduce the sound quality. "

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