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18th March 2016, 23:40 | #36941 | Link | |
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It does have the ability to play your pre-show content with one player (DVDPlayer) at 60 Hz and play the feature with DSPlayer at 24 Hz. Each player has its own refresh rate settings and can be programmed with rules to play content by filename tag or filetype.
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19th March 2016, 00:10 | #36942 | Link | |
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if your screen has a properly working 23p mode i don't see a reason why smooth motion could be better it could be at best as good as native 23p. |
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19th March 2016, 01:42 | #36943 | Link | |
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The only time I use 24hz is to enable frame interpolation for animated content.. Because the pulldown at 60hz affects it's smoothness otherwise. Last edited by ryrynz; 19th March 2016 at 01:45. |
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19th March 2016, 02:26 | #36945 | Link |
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I have read the thread on configuring madVR compiled by Warner306, which was very informative.
I have not the newest Hardware : Win 8.1x64 on core 2 duo 6600 @2400 GHz and DDR800 Memory. Still, PowerDVD13 and StereoscopicPlayer are able to playback 3D-MVC Content without Problems (iso or mkv respectivly). On the other hand, when I use MPC-BEx64 (with madVR from Shark007) and his advanced codec pack, i get good playback for standard bluray content, but extrem stuttering and hundreds of droped frames if playing the same 3d content PowerDVD or StereoscopicPalyer managed without Problems on the same machine... I have played around with the madVR and LAV Settings for some time. But without success. Therefore my question is - what should the basic settings be for playback of 1080p23 content (2D/3D) as long as the quality is comparable to PowerDVD - what are the chances to get a "core madVR" which would simply provide the 3d-playback to MPC-BE without to many "fancy" picture improvements (again, I would call it already a day, if it would be in the range of PoverDVD13, which does run on my System)... Thanks in advance |
19th March 2016, 06:26 | #36947 | Link |
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Because blended frames make it smoother (especially noticeable on panning shots, Casino Royale is a good test)
Better 24 standard frames +36 Smooth Motion blended/duplicated frames than just 24 standard frames and that's half the reason why Smooth & Fluid Motion exist, the other half being no more 3:2 pulldown (which madVR needs some work on). Projectors generally mask this problem with their double shuttering, but properly supportive of 24P or not.. you'll still get smoother results with Smooth/Fluid Motion at the expense of clarity.. But you know that already. Last edited by ryrynz; 19th March 2016 at 09:08. |
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The results Im now getting look fine... 25 content playing at 60Hz with smooth motion engaged plays no worse than 25 content with the card set to 25, I tested this today, over and over again on the Universal logo which has lots of moving images and text. Infact the 25 logo looks even better played at 60Hz with smooth motion engaged, its perfect, why I have no idea, I thought it would be worse. So locking the card at 60Hz, playing all the mixed content first (25, 50, 60, 29, 24) then onto the feature which is 24 all at 60Hz looks great! Its one thousand percent better than when I was trying to do this with kodi/openelec (no madvr) Looks like madvr is the magic ingredient here with smooth motion engaged. No more SLOW refresh rate changes and missing the beginning of video clips/shorts/trailers when all set to 60Z, madvr and smooth motion. |
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I was told to set smooth motion at "always" If I was to use "exact multiple of movie frame rate" doesn't that meant the real 50 content playing at 60Hz is going to look really bad with no smooth motion engaged??? e.g. The guys that play all 24 content at 60Hz all use smooth motion engaged... 24 isn't a multiple of 60... so with your method it would stutter, correct? Last edited by 70MM; 19th March 2016 at 08:13. |
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19th March 2016, 08:15 | #36951 | Link | |
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1. 50 on 60 will smoothed _always_ 2. but 30 on 60 will smoothed if "exact multiple of movie frame rate" is on p.s. and you can easy check this in OSD p.p.s and if i have such task as you - i will use ReClock+"exact multiple of movie frame rate" Last edited by SweetLow; 19th March 2016 at 08:22. |
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19th March 2016, 08:47 | #36952 | Link | |
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Warner306, these are not in your preferred setting in your guide http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=259188 |
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a screen is usually using 120 hz to display 24p so what's this about? Quote:
but why needs madVR work on this? |
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does switching work for 1440p displays/something wrong on my end or is it not implemented yet?
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Regardless, it's still only 24 frames being displayed regardless of the display frequency which isn't enough to replicate truly natural smooth motion. Panning and scrolling will always be a stutter fest using only 24 fps. Because I found MPDN presents 3:2 pulldown better. Madshi acknowledged it needs work, it's just not high priority. |
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19th March 2016, 12:40 | #36956 | Link | |
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yes a clear bug/limitation. Last edited by huhn; 19th March 2016 at 13:09. Reason: added quote |
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older plasma do this at 48 hz pure flicker party or it may doing it at 60 hz. newer ones (which are pretty old now) have an option to switch to 96 hz for this. and oly the expensive ones. Panasonic and Samsung are pretty bad at this 23p games... i mean Panasonic was able to create a 120 hz TV with 3:2 judder at 23/24p with my CX700. i'm pretty much out of word here... Quote:
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screenshot enclosed; what would be also nice, is to have in the LAV Audio Decoder settings an option to convert in real time aac to ac3 (i know that's the wrong thread)... MPC-BE internal codec allows for this; I have everything in aac...but my AV-Receiver is not able to process aac, so I convert it on the fly to ac3; therefore I use LAV splitter, LAV Video Decoder and internal MPC-BE Audio Decoder (the screenshot is done with this setup); to preempt questions to this mixed setup : also when I was using also the LAV Audio Decoder, the jerking was the same....so, it is not caused by the Decoder-mix if I don't do this, I get Audio as 5Ch-Stereo... Thanks Last edited by arrgh; 19th March 2016 at 20:47. |
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now to get switching to actually work again (it breaks and then fixes repeatedly as i use LAV and MPC-BE nightlies from time to time)
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