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Old 3rd September 2006, 19:36   #121  |  Link
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Much as I love the idea of being able to navigate menu structures placed within the MP4 container I can't help feeling the idea wont take off until we have software players that support the implementation
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Old 4th September 2006, 02:13   #122  |  Link
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no. i will not update it unless someone wants to eg write a gui based on it

this doesnt mean that noone else can update it
Well I would try it if someone did I'm also not a programmer unfortunately. Are there any players that support the mp4 menus though?
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Are there any players that support the mp4 menus though?
There is the software player Osmo4 from http://gpac.sourceforge.net/ .
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There is the software player Osmo4 from http://gpac.sourceforge.net/ .
Unfortunately that player there is no binary version available. You gotta compile it from source. Which means end users won't probably get it then. And that just hurts the mp4menu program.
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Unfortunately that player there is no binary version available. You gotta compile it from source. Which means end users won't probably get it then. And that just hurts the mp4menu program.
True, but you will have the same problem with XviD,x264 or FFDshow binary.

You can find a Windows binary(GPAC Framework) here: http://ffdshow.faireal.net/mirror/gpac/
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enviviotv is a plugin useable in every directshow player (mpc, wmp, bsplayer, zoomplayer...), realplayer and quicktime as discussed already in this thread
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Too bad it isn't free. Can't seem to find a download for it anywhere.
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Has anyone seen the new tool from Kurtnoise? It's a very good GUI. Haven't tested it yet. I have just downloaded it. Since I have not bought a new DVD, I can't convert anything right now. It's right here.

Merci beaucoup Kurtnoise! T'es vraiment ingιnieux..!

Edit: I have just seen that it doesn't work. It stucks somewhere (sth about track 4).
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Has anyone seen the new tool from Kurtnoise? It's a very good GUI. Haven't tested it yet. I have just downloaded it. Since I have not bought a new DVD, I can't convert anything right now. It's right here.

Merci beaucoup Kurtnoise! T'es vraiment ingιnieux..!

Edit: I have just seen that it doesn't work. It stucks somewhere (sth about track 4).
Here's the thread on it:

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Sorry "_"
Could you help me about file Mp4 sub?
How to creat bt file?
And bt file can show with "rtsp" play on webpage,right?
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And bt file can show with "rtsp" play on webpage,right?
no

do you still want to use mp4sub?
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Could you help me about file Mp4 sub?
How to creat bt file?
And bt file can show with "rtsp" play on webpage,right?
You can crate a mp4 file from the BIFS Text(*.bt) and hint(-hint -ocr) this file with MP4Box. Now a streamingserver like DSS is able to stream the BIFS track. If it is only a simple scene description like MP4Sub there should be no problem in streaming with DSS.

You can find here some information how to use osmozilla or GPAX:
http://gpac.sourceforge.net/doc_embed.php

What do you want to do?
If you only need a audio/video file with subtittle, crate a 3gp file with 3GPP Timed Text / MPEG-4 Streaming Text, and hint this file for streaming with DSS( http://developer.apple.com/opensourc...ing/index.html )

You can use osmozilla/GPAX embedded into a website to play this stream. Didn't tested QuickTime until now, but local playback of 3gp files with 3GPP Timed Text / MPEG-4 Streaming Text is working with QuickTme.

VLC/vlc-mozillaplugin don't support the streaming(rtp) of 3GPP Timed Text / MPEG-4 Streaming Text,AFAIK.
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Sorry to gravedig, but where in the MPEG-4 parts is the menu system defined? I'm looking to automate menu conversion from DVD's IFO and VOB files to MP4 and what I think is BIFS. The only thing I could see scuppering it is there's a lot of motion video in most DVDs.
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There isn't any part which only deffines something like the DVD menu system.
In MPEG-4 there is a system to handle media objects, the the Object Descriptor Framework(MPEG-4 "Systems" ISO/IEC 14496-1).
BIFS(Binary Format For Scene)(MPEG-4 "Scene Description and Application Engine" ISO/IEC 14496-11) defines how the media objects have to be presented, and if wanted how to interact with this objects.
Based on this you are able to create a DVD like menu.

To implant chapters you could use the segmentDescriptor to divide a media object into parts.
Take a look how this is done by MP4MenuGUI:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=117574
Or take a look in the BIFS text script from Bond:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/mp4menu

Also from interest could be the GPAC Regression Test suite:
http://gpac.sourceforge.net/auth_suite.php
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