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Old 13th December 2003, 02:05   #21  |  Link
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I emailed Nero to suggest that they work with bond to integrate automated menu backup into Nero Digital. Maybe they will just delete my email but I guess it's worth a try .
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Old 13th December 2003, 10:38   #22  |  Link
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hey nice idea, thanks
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Just to thanks bond for this great work
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Old 21st January 2004, 16:26   #24  |  Link
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Interesting! I would like to try MP4Menu.
But links to MP4Box and Osmo4 player are not working.
I tried searching but it didn't help.
Is it still available? If not, can I use MP4Menu without MP4Box?
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Old 21st January 2004, 17:36   #25  |  Link
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Yes you should be able to use MP4Menu with any MPEG-4 Systems Encoder, ie mp4tool from enst but i only tested it really with mp4box

otherwise you would have to compile osmo4 and mp4box yourself
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Old 22nd January 2004, 05:15   #26  |  Link
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mp4tool from enst is not available too.
Can I do it with MPEG4IP's mp4tools? If so then how?
I am new to all this stuff, but I would REALLY like to try.
And what is other mpeg-4 systems player would you recommend instead of Osmo4? I don't know how to compile it.
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Old 23rd January 2004, 17:08   #27  |  Link
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no mpeg4ips tools dont inlcude a bifs encoder

thanks to rjamorim you can find compiles of mp4box and osmo4 on his rarewares site:
http://rarewares.hydrogenaudio.org/mp4.html
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Old 22nd April 2004, 09:24   #28  |  Link
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hello,

I can not find mp4box anywhere.
Can you please tell me a URL or email it?

Thanks!

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Old 22nd April 2004, 09:32   #29  |  Link
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lo malitz!

welcome to doom9 and thanks for your interest in mp4menu

its a little bit hidden on rarewares, its called "Gpac MPEG4 toolbox" there
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Old 22nd April 2004, 09:35   #30  |  Link
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...I can not find mp4box anywhere.
Can you please tell me a URL or email it?

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Hi Michael, Welcome to the forum.

If you had looked at bond MP4 FAQ, you would have found this link: - http://gpac.sourceforge.net/auth_mp4box.php

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Old 21st May 2004, 13:39   #31  |  Link
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Problems with your menu

Hello bond,

I am trying to get along with your great mp4menu script.
I have mp4box now and followed the instructions in your guide.

But I have problems with the file. When I convert the bt file to mp4 using mp4box I only get the menuvideo without audio in the mp4 file or only the main movie.

Can you please give your source files? That might help to understand the mp4menu script. I am talking about the menu.mp4 and menu.avi mentioned in your script. And perhaps the other files too.

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Old 21st May 2004, 14:59   #32  |  Link
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When I convert the bt file to mp4 using mp4box I only get the menuvideo without audio in the mp4 file or only the main movie.
you mean when you start playing the mp4 in osmo4 only the menu gets displayed? can you push the buttons?

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I am talking about the menu.mp4 and menu.avi mentioned in your script
menu.avi is simply the menu directly from the .vob encoded with a mpeg-4 codec and stored in .avi
menu.mp4 is the audio of the menu directly from the .vob encoded with aac or mp3 and stored in .mp4

the "#1" defines the trackid of the stream in the mp4. to find out the trackid open the .mp4 in mp4ui (the audio tracks outputted by most aac encoders always have trackid 1)


so to say if you look in my mp4menu.bt
- the first file listed is movie.avi#video - here you have to set the path to the file which contains the full movie (but not the audio of the movie)
- the next is movie_english.mp4#1 - thats the file which contains the audio (first language) of the full movie, in your case this would be the german audio i think
- movie_deutsch.mp4#1 - is the second language audio stream (english or whatever other language you want)
- movie_english_forced.srt - are the forced subs, which should always get displayed
- movie_english.srt - first language subs (in your case german)
- movie_deutsch.srt - second language subs (eg english)
- menu.mp4#1 - the audio stream of the menus (as written above)
- menu.avi#video - the audio stream of the menus (as written above) any audio stream in the .avi will get ignored


if you want to extract the single streams from the sw sample, you can easily do this with mp4box itself via the following commandlines:
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MP4Box -avi TrackID mymp4.mp4
(extracts the video to .avi)
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MP4Box -raw TrackID mymp4.mp4
(extracts the audio to .aac or .mp3)
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Old 23rd May 2004, 14:25   #33  |  Link
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Hello bond,

thanks for your answers.

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you mean when you start playing the mp4 in osmo4 only the menu gets displayed? can you push the buttons?
I meant when I start playing the mp4 in qt6 only the menu gets displayed. I can not push any buttons. And the file size tells me that the main movie has not been included.

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menu.avi...
I understood everything you wrote in your guide. And I changed the file names of my main movie, main movie languages and menu.
But it does not work.
That's why I asked for your original files fitting the data in the bt file. Would be much easier to understand and reconfigure.

greetings

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Old 23rd May 2004, 14:38   #34  |  Link
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I meant when I start playing the mp4 in qt6 only the menu gets displayed. I can not push any buttons. And the file size tells me that the main movie has not been included.
qt isnt able to play the menus, it will simply ignore all interactivity information and will simply play the a/v streams
you can switch in qt between the different a/v streams stored in the mp4

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That's why I asked for your original files fitting the data in the bt file. Would be much easier to understand and reconfigure
as i wrote above you can extract every stream from a .mp4 yourself
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qt isnt able to play the menus
Really? That's really bad.
I wanted to use interactivity in some videos I publish in the internet. And there qt6 is used.

That's bad!
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Old 23rd May 2004, 14:56   #36  |  Link
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Really? That's really bad.
well its the same as with mpeg-2 systems: not every mpeg-2 decoder can decode dvd menus for example, you need a special player which is capable to do it
i also wrote that you need a special player in my first post

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I wanted to use interactivity in some videos I publish in the internet. And there qt6 is used.
there lots of other players around, i tested mp4menu with the osmo4 player i linked to in the first post
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Old 23rd May 2004, 15:02   #37  |  Link
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strange:
http://www.apple.com/mpeg4/

here you can read that interactivity is a part of mp4
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here you can read that interactivity is a part of mp4
of course its part of mp4/mpeg-4, still this doesnt mean that quicktime supports it...

quicktime is only one of dozens implementations of mpeg-4 available and surely not a complete one
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I want to use qt6. Do you know any alternative to mp4menu? For example any tutorials about interactive mp4?

What I want to do: Have a startframe with some text on it. And when you click on it, the movie starts. Can be seen in the beginning of some movie trailers in the mov format. Something like a GO or NEXT button.

And: a language button. A movie should be played using language file 1 or 2.

Any suggestions?

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What I want to do: Have a startframe with some text on it. And when you click on it, the movie starts. Can be seen in the beginning of some movie trailers in the mov format. Something like a GO or NEXT button.

And: a language button. A movie should be played using language file 1 or 2.
should be possible with mp4 in all big players including wmp9, quicktime or realplayer when the enviviotv-plugin is installed, its a very basic menu what you are asking for (which enviviotv will handle, in contrary to full dvd menus), mp4menu was written for dvd menus, its surely too overloaded for your purpose

have a look at my mp4 faq for some authoring tools or read this tutorial for a guide on how to write your own menu script

basically you need to do the following:
- place a .png or .jpg in the .mp4 (next to the audio/video streams)
- create a button which is as big as the image, which starts playing the movie when clicking
- and add two other buttons (which are named like the languages) for letting the user choose the language

you should find everything needed in mp4menu, but there surely is no way around reading into the bt language a little bit deeper and writing an own script
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