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it's likely you had "adaptive" checked and 4 b-frames were never used.
to see if it works uncheck adaptive b-frames and re-encode with 4 b-frames.
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but I still think it has 4 bframes in there. The only way I know of counting the bframes is opening the file in MPC and let ffmpeg print the frame type on the OSD and go frame by frame. I looks to me that around frame 474-477 and around 1078-1081 I have seen two sequences of 4 bframes. The file is http://rapidshare.de/files/8726733/maq10302.mp4.html Last edited by quake74; 6th December 2005 at 18:39. |
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remember if you use the standard b.frame bias and adaptive b.frame, x264 rarely uses more than 3 b.frames.
however i'm downloading your clip an will check it. EDIT: Yes, the clip has indeed 4 b-frames sequences. Are you sure you do not experience frame skips during playback? however the psnr gain moving from 3 to 4 bframes is not significative and maybe negative.
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No, still unrepaired.
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6th December 2005, 21:51 | #169 | Link |
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@bond: my PSP is still broken so i cannot do tests for PSPs.
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7th December 2005, 00:23 | #171 | Link |
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oh.. i thought you were trying on a PSP
i didnt notice it.. but ill deeply check it later. EDIT: does not "jump" here...
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First, thanks to Sharktooth so much for these profiles! It helps so much, because of the crazy number of options the codec has.
A quick question to anyone on CE-Mainprofile and Quicktime. It says in the first post that CE-Mainprofile is not compatible, but I just encoded something using it and it played it in QTPlayer successfully (7.0.2). Should I be safe, or should I be worried about it not playing on Macs for instance? Mainprofile seems like better quality, so it'd be neat to be able to use that instead of CE-QT if I can. It just seems strange to me that the profile specifically says it isn't compatible when my first try with it was fine. Maybe I just got lucky? Shawn |
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maybe I overlooked it,..
Is there a table/list/.. that shows what features/settings are en-/disabled / used in the profiles? (something like a overview ?) Cu Selur Ps.: I know I could examine the xml files,.. a little overview would be nice. |
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Ok, after further concentrated effort I can confirm the Xbox can decode atleast 720x304 resolution Nero AVC + 2CH AC3 inside an MKV file. Settings used:
(GENERAL SETTINGS) Decision quality: High Quality (maximum) Maximum vector range: -512 to 511.75 Maximum reference frames: 3 Maximum GOP size: 300 Maximum B-frames: 3 (ENCODING TOOLS) CABAC: Yes Bidirectional prediction: Yes Macroblock partitions: No Weighted prediction: No Deblocking: Yes (=0) (VISUAL ENHANCEMENTS) Source material: Chroma optimization Psycho-visual enhancements: Disabled What would be the equivalent to all of these settings^ in x264? Maybe it would be possible to play the same file 720x304 resolution x264 if similar settings were used. Additionally it is impotant to use these cache settings for smooth playback: Video/Audio/DVD Cache - harddisk 4096 KB Video Cache - DVDRom 8192 KB Audio Cache - DVDRom 256 KB DVD Cache - DVDRom 4096 KB ALL OTHER PARAMETERS 0 KB And also, this is very important -- enable Smoothed A/V synchronization. It is disabled by default. |
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... almost the settings you can find in the xbox low-res profile except macroblock partitions and weighted prediction
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V15:
updated AE-Maxquality, CQ-ASP_Q2 (both), HQ-Insane, HQ-Slowest and PD-Xbox (both) with No Fast P Skip option.
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I digress a bit, but I've noticed my source has got deliberate grain, which looks to me is getting rather smooth and noticeably blocky in others. Deblocking doesn't have this effect does it? Interestingly I noticed in the Nero AVC encode, that Limobar did, the detail is kept in that particular part grainy part of the video. It's significantly closer to the original I believe. Both files used about the same encoding settings. - edit: jumped the gun with this comment, x264 looks fine at similar encoding settings as Nero. *Ok, I tried again to encode at 720x304. I used PD-Xbox_LoRes, but dropped Weighted Prediction. I'm not sure where the Macroblock option is though. I also changed Minimum Quantizer to 14 to keep my bitrate at around 1950kbps+. Muxed with AC3 in an MKV after. Frame rate is like 10-17 fps and there are dropped frames on Xbox. Last edited by Backflip; 10th December 2005 at 13:37. |
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Well, Xbox cant do miracles...
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V16: fixed CQ-ASP_Q2_equiv. Had quantizer 26 instead of 18 (dont ask me why!).
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