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Old 4th March 2014, 01:10   #24221  |  Link
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one more week and madvr will power my home cinema <3

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Old 4th March 2014, 04:31   #24222  |  Link
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Hello... for 24fps FRC'ed to 30hz... in 1/6 of a second, there are 2 real frames, and 3 blended frames, is that right?
Yes, blended frames in red.

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|-------|-------|-------|-------| 24 Hz
-|-----|-----|-----|-----|-----|  30 Hz
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Old 4th March 2014, 06:13   #24223  |  Link
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Since madVR FRC blending is variable each VSYNC, the blending percentages between video frames are better visualized like the following:



Thrown together quickly and not very exact, but the point is that unlike traditional blending, you'll have custom blending ratios each VSYNC based on your refresh rate VS video timestamps on a global optimal timeline. If your 30hz refresh rate or video timestamps are non-perfect, you'll likely end up with all video frames being blended to some degree because of misalignment. madshi generally recommends using at least 60hz refresh rate (the higher, the better) to cut down on the number of heavily blended frames and the blurriness they induce.

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Old 4th March 2014, 09:25   #24224  |  Link
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Will this fix the higher blacks when colored dithering is enabled?
I don't know. As far as I remember some users had higher blacks with colored dithering, others had lower blacks. So I've no idea what effect this will have on you. It should not make things worse, in any case.

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BTW: FSE works without problems on secondary screen while normal work is done on the primary.
Seems to work for some users but not for others. Might depends on the media player? Don't know...
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Old 4th March 2014, 14:11   #24225  |  Link
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VSYNC activation for video playback on MPC-HC with MadVr

Dear all,
I've some difficulties for correctly set up my HTPC and I need your help.

I'm using MPC-HC + LAV Video decoder (software decoding) + ffdshow video decoder (avisynth) + ffdshow audio decoder + MadVr (0.87.4).
All is running on Win7 with i7 3770k @ 4.5Ghz and Asus Nvidia 660 Ti (driver v327.23) and all is perfectly set up. No dropped frames, 23.97689Hz etc...

My problem concern VSYNC support on MadVr.
I'm using a dual screen system. The primary screen is always using for playback (HDMI 660Ti Output --> JVC X35), the secondary is my HC system (MotherBoard HDMI output --> Onkyo TX-SR875) for sending bitstream via hdmi.

I tried to search some informations but nothing is clear for me and I think I'm not alone with this problem.
Could someone clarify those points for me please...?

-1: Do I need to desactivate aero?
-2: I heard about activating VSYNC under Nvidia control panel but on what program? MPC-HC.exe or madhcctrl.exe? Which mode? On, Adaptive, Adaptive (half refresh rate)?
-3: Am I missing another thing?

Thank you so much for helping me!
And sorry if my english is not good!

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Old 4th March 2014, 14:35   #24226  |  Link
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because your screens have different refresh rates you have to disable aero to fix the composition rate but this can create tearing i get tearing with my amd card this way or use exclusive fullscreen this can create problems if you do something else in the same time like playing a game working on a excel.

leave your nvidia settings at default don't force anything in them.

you don't run in vsync problems with exclusive fullscreen mode and vsync problems with window mode and active aero are a problem of the past.
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Old 4th March 2014, 14:41   #24227  |  Link
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Thank you huhn

So the only way to avoid any interference on the video is to use a single monitor?
It can be done. I was using 2 hdmi cables (so two monitors) to have a direct link between my PC and my video projector for the video and another one for audio but maybe it's not a good idea...
I can use only one from PC --> receiver -> projector

I will leave everything by default in the Nvidia control panel concerning the VSYNC

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Old 4th March 2014, 15:00   #24228  |  Link
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if you don't want to use this pc for watch movies on the beamer and do something else on the monitor at the same time.
you can just use fullscreen exclusive mode and everything should be fine.
and all i say was it can produce problems but i didn't say it will create problems.

if you can't use fullscreen mode for what ever reason you should, you will most likely run in problems thanks to the composition rate.

so use full screen exclusive mode that's my recommend and if this produce problems report back.
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Old 4th March 2014, 15:14   #24229  |  Link
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Dual-Monitor solution: Fullscreen exclusive mode. Or overlay mode. The latter only works for Intel and NVidia, but not for AMD.
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Old 4th March 2014, 15:36   #24230  |  Link
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Ok, thanks for your precious informations!
I'm already in fullscreen exclusive mode.
I will try to desactivate Aero in the MadVr options.
when I'm watching a movie, nothing else is loading (games, excel and so on)

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Old 4th March 2014, 15:39   #24231  |  Link
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Does anyone know of a way to apply a shader after smooth motion but before dithering? I made a shader which uses a trick to gamma correct the dithering algorithm, and I'd like to see if this solves the 'blinking' but to do that I need to apply it after the frames are blended.
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Old 4th March 2014, 15:46   #24232  |  Link
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I will try to desactivate Aero in the MadVr options.
doesn't have a affected on fullscreen exclusive mode. fullscreen exclusive is only active in fullscreen else window mode is used.

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when I'm watching a movie, nothing else is loading (games, excel and so on)
so what is your problem then? you talked about vsync, do you get tearing or what is the problem with vsync?
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Old 4th March 2014, 17:51   #24233  |  Link
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so what is your problem then? you talked about vsync, do you get tearing or what is the problem with vsync?
I don't have tearing problems but since a few days I have a lot of jerking especially during rapid movements. I was thinking it could be a VSYNC problem
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Old 4th March 2014, 17:55   #24234  |  Link
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I don't have tearing problems but since a few days I have a lot of jerking especially during rapid movements. I was thinking it could be a VSYNC problem
can you you play a file where "a lot of jerking" is happing and make a screen with the osd (control + j)? you need to use screen print not the screen-shot function
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Old 4th March 2014, 17:58   #24235  |  Link
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Maybe if enough people submit a bug report here then the issue with d3d9 - opencl interop cost will be fixed by AMD:

http://www.amdsurveys.com/se.ashx?s=5A1E27D25AD12B1A
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Old 4th March 2014, 18:03   #24236  |  Link
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can you you play a file where "a lot of jerking" is happing and make a screen with the osd (control + j)? you need to use screen print not the screen-shot function
Thanks huhn, of course I can.
What do you call a screen print? The key on the keyboard?
Generally, I'm using Fraps. I will do it after work. Thanks for your help
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Old 4th March 2014, 18:12   #24237  |  Link
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please use control+print or alt + print (the media player has to be active in this case).

you can input the screen then with control +v in paint and save it.
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Old 4th March 2014, 19:10   #24238  |  Link
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please use control+print or alt + print (the media player has to be active in this case).

you can input the screen then with control +v in paint and save it.
It's not working in fullscreen exclusive mode so I used Fraps
Here is my screenshot



In general settings, only "enable automatic fullscreen exclusive mode is checked"
Chroma upscaling: NNEDI3 16 Neurons (YV12 output from ffdshow)
Image downscaling: Lanczos 8 taps + anti-ringing + Scale in linear light

Image doubling is not used since I made all my upscale via avisynth for my SD contents using NNEDI3 (the best for SD!!)

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Old 4th March 2014, 19:18   #24239  |  Link
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Hello, i've got a light version of windows 8 , can i know what kind of microsoft net framework or other microsoft software i have to load for 0.87.4 madvr full functionality?

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Old 4th March 2014, 19:27   #24240  |  Link
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It's not working in fullscreen exclusive mode so I used Fraps
Here is my screenshot

http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/52...0419070303.png

In general settings, "only enable automatic fullscreen exclusive mode is checked"
your screenshot shows perfect playback. have you waited till "a lot of jerking" is happening else the source is at fail or very very unlikely your display device.
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