Media Player .NET (MPDN) - D3D HQ GPU Video Renderer [v2.49.0/v1.31.0 27 Dec 2018] - Page 102

ryrynz · 7th May 2015, 01:52

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Originally Posted by mrcorbo

No. But that exits fullscreen and being in fullscreen is part of the trigger. The other seems to be either having the menu open or the exit option specifically as alt+f4-ing exits with no crash.

Not display driver related is it? Try a clean install? or previous versions?

Have you checked your .NET installation with the repair tool?

Scyna · 7th May 2015, 03:00

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Originally Posted by Zachs

What is your present duration like? It should be less than 1ms. If not you could play around with new render path on/off, DWM sync on/off, go into full screen exclusive mode to see if it changes present duration.

I tried all that and i still get delayed frames. Average render times is between 6-7ms

Zachs · 7th May 2015, 03:11

What was your present time?

Scyna · 7th May 2015, 04:13

.6-.7 was present time

Zachs · 7th May 2015, 04:15

That looks OK. Besides the delayed frame count, does it actually feel like it's stuttering when you have fluid motion enabled?

Scyna · 7th May 2015, 04:46

I only notice it when its a lot of delayed frames. When its 1 delayed frame I don't notice it.

Zachs · 7th May 2015, 05:32

Max present duration is also less than 1ms?

Scyna · 7th May 2015, 06:50

Max present is very random its 6-15ms

Zachs · 7th May 2015, 06:53

That's the problem!

The only time I've seen that is if the hardware is overclocked a little too much, or a driver that is misbehaving.

Scyna · 7th May 2015, 07:07

I tried stock settings for my gpu and its still the same Max present times. So you think its a driver issue?

Zachs · 7th May 2015, 07:15

Try different driver versions perhaps? My old ATI card had this problem too but changing those settings I pointed out earlier, I managed to find some that the driver was happy with. Oh maybe try direct 3d 11 too. But in exclusive mode I've never seen it with any GPUs.

Oh and try changing back buffer counts too.

mrcorbo · 7th May 2015, 13:30

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Originally Posted by Zachs

Hmm, perhaps I could do something to make sure it exits full screen exclusive mode first before closing. It only happens in exclusive mode right?

No, it does it even if exclusive mode is disabled. I think MPDN exits exclusive mode when you activate the right-click menu anyway, or at least it seems like it does.

mrcorbo · 7th May 2015, 13:39

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Originally Posted by ryrynz

Not display driver related is it? Try a clean install? or previous versions?

Have you checked your .NET installation with the repair tool?

I haven't tried different drivers yet. The crashes have been in ntdll.dll or clr.dll, so probably .NET related. I'll check out the repair tool when I have some time. Thanks.

Zachs · 8th May 2015, 03:33

Just a quick heads up. I've updated the OpenCL NNEDI3 scripts on github. Let me know if it's faster / slower for you.

Anime Viewer · 8th May 2015, 04:02

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Originally Posted by Zachs

Just a quick heads up. I've updated the OpenCL NNEDI3 scripts on github. Let me know if it's faster / slower for you.

The updated OpenCL NNEDI3 is completely unusable for me. When I first tried to set it I got a black screen (no video) with 3-4ms being listed. When I exited MPDN, went back in changed to the original NNEDI3 (to confirm it still worked), and then tried to go back to OpenCL NNEDI3 it had a frozen video screen and the hour glass spinning indefinitely. I couldn't escape the freeze or shut down MPDN, and had to log off then re-log in to get it to close.

Zachs · 8th May 2015, 04:16

Hmm, might have encountered an NVIDIA OpenCL compiler bug there. I don't have access to my 560 GTX at the moment so I think I'll revert the changes until I can fully test it on NV's latest drivers.

EDIT: I tested this on an NV 8400GS with driver v341.44 and it's fully working... What version are you running by the way?

EDIT2: Anyone else with the same problem?

ryrynz · 8th May 2015, 05:53

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Originally Posted by Zachs

EDIT2: Anyone else with the same problem?

Can confirm you borked it.

Zachs · 8th May 2015, 05:55

OK I'll revert it then, at least until I get a chance to test it on my 560 GTX.
It does run on your Intel HD4000 though right?

ryrynz · 8th May 2015, 06:02

Yup, fine on HD graphics.

Anima123 · 8th May 2015, 06:11

Same here as 'Anime Viewer'.

7th May 2015, 07:15	#2031 \| Link
Zachs Suptitle, MediaPlayer.NET Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,721	Try different driver versions perhaps? My old ATI card had this problem too but changing those settings I pointed out earlier, I managed to find some that the driver was happy with. Oh maybe try direct 3d 11 too. But in exclusive mode I've never seen it with any GPUs. Oh and try changing back buffer counts too. Last edited by Zachs; 7th May 2015 at 07:22.

8th May 2015, 04:16	#2036 \| Link
Zachs Suptitle, MediaPlayer.NET Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,721	Hmm, might have encountered an NVIDIA OpenCL compiler bug there. I don't have access to my 560 GTX at the moment so I think I'll revert the changes until I can fully test it on NV's latest drivers. EDIT: I tested this on an NV 8400GS with driver v341.44 and it's fully working... What version are you running by the way? EDIT2: Anyone else with the same problem? Last edited by Zachs; 8th May 2015 at 05:19.

7th May 2015, 03:11	#2023 \| Link
Zachs Suptitle, MediaPlayer.NET Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,721	What was your present time?

7th May 2015, 04:13	#2024 \| Link
Scyna Registered User Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 33	.6-.7 was present time

7th May 2015, 04:15	#2025 \| Link
Zachs Suptitle, MediaPlayer.NET Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,721	That looks OK. Besides the delayed frame count, does it actually feel like it's stuttering when you have fluid motion enabled?

7th May 2015, 04:46	#2026 \| Link
Scyna Registered User Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 33	I only notice it when its a lot of delayed frames. When its 1 delayed frame I don't notice it.

7th May 2015, 05:32	#2027 \| Link
Zachs Suptitle, MediaPlayer.NET Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,721	Max present duration is also less than 1ms?

7th May 2015, 06:50	#2028 \| Link
Scyna Registered User Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 33	Max present is very random its 6-15ms

7th May 2015, 06:53	#2029 \| Link
Zachs Suptitle, MediaPlayer.NET Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,721	That's the problem! The only time I've seen that is if the hardware is overclocked a little too much, or a driver that is misbehaving.

7th May 2015, 07:07	#2030 \| Link
Scyna Registered User Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 33	I tried stock settings for my gpu and its still the same Max present times. So you think its a driver issue?

8th May 2015, 03:33	#2034 \| Link
Zachs Suptitle, MediaPlayer.NET Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,721	Just a quick heads up. I've updated the OpenCL NNEDI3 scripts on github. Let me know if it's faster / slower for you.

8th May 2015, 05:55	#2038 \| Link
Zachs Suptitle, MediaPlayer.NET Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,721	OK I'll revert it then, at least until I get a chance to test it on my 560 GTX. It does run on your Intel HD4000 though right?

8th May 2015, 06:02	#2039 \| Link
ryrynz Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 3,650	Yup, fine on HD graphics.

8th May 2015, 06:11	#2040 \| Link
Anima123 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 504	Same here as 'Anime Viewer'.