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Old 12th November 2009, 15:05   #9141  |  Link
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5870. I'm not testing it with the Xonar at all.
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Old 12th November 2009, 15:23   #9142  |  Link
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Sorry my friend, but, DTS-HD MA is not working for me with the 5870. I get DTS and it detects it completely wrong when mousing over the tray icon.

DTS-HD MA: http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=d27c5448
Ok, the TrueHD log "sounds" good

Concerning the DTS-HD log, indeed you only get DTS because you don't have the last version of the MPC splitter (which strips off HD blocks) Please use this one : register it and use graphstudio with "MPC - Mpeg source" filter.

About the Xonar, it should work with it as arcsoft media types are sent to the driver but Seb tried and didn't any good results.

So to summarize :
- the latest build claims to support HD bitstreaming on radeon 5xxx
- the xonar is supposed to be supported but tests are not good so far (but further tests are needed)
- the 4xxx series is not supported yet

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Old 12th November 2009, 15:43   #9143  |  Link
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@Albain,

Thanks for the summary.

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Old 12th November 2009, 16:20   #9144  |  Link
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Ok, the TrueHD log "sounds" good

Concerning the DTS-HD log, indeed you only get DTS because you don't have the last version of the MPC splitter (which strips off HD blocks) Please use this one : register it and use graphstudio with "MPC - Mpeg source" filter.

About the Xonar, it should work with it as arcsoft media types are sent to the driver but Seb tried and didn't any good results.

So to summarize :
- the latest build claims to support HD bitstreaming on radeon 5xxx
- the xonar is supposed to be supported but tests are not good so far (but further tests are needed)
- the 4xxx series is not supported yet
That's odd. I reregistered them this morning with the latest versions. Anyway, I'll try again.
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Old 12th November 2009, 16:33   #9145  |  Link
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Yea, no. Doing what you suggest hangs GraphStudio, I get no audio at all, and I have to kill the process.
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Old 12th November 2009, 16:36   #9146  |  Link
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Managed to log what I could for that. This is a DTS-HD MA track run through graphstudio.

http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=d14998238
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Old 12th November 2009, 17:32   #9147  |  Link
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The DTS HD format is accepted by the renderer

This is weird that graphstudio hangs...
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Old 12th November 2009, 18:25   #9148  |  Link
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I've been doing some early test on my Xonar however i haven't had chance to test on my av receiver yet so i don't know the true outcome audio wise.

Doing just visual test on graphstudio i'm finding the TrueHD and DTS-HD MA files are playing ok. I'll let you what ffdshow is reporting the output as later (i'll do some test later tonight on my av reciever).

One thing i did notice is that if i have video decoding disabled in ffdshow, and use a decoder like CoreAVC, the audio renderer switches to the default directshow renderer in graphstudio. You have to manual switch renderer, whereas if you have video decoding enabled in ffdshow, the MPC audio renderer is automatically used.

One to note for later maybe?

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Old 12th November 2009, 18:44   #9149  |  Link
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The DTS HD format is accepted by the renderer

This is weird that graphstudio hangs...
Yea I don't get it. And it doesn't work in MPC-HC either. I guess I can try a different movie but I doubt it'll make any difference.
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Old 12th November 2009, 18:50   #9150  |  Link
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So MPC-HC gives me just DTS (and the tray icon shows it as DD...yeaaaaaa). I tried another DTS-HD MA source in graphstudio and I get the same result. The tray icon shows DTS-HD and that it's bitstreaming but the receiver does nothing and the file hangs graphstudio. I'm sure I have the latest versions of everything you've given us so I don't know.
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Old 12th November 2009, 19:13   #9151  |  Link
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Have you tried to play a regular DTS/DD File and do you get any sound with it ?

Also have you tried TrueHD and DD+ ?
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Old 12th November 2009, 22:49   #9152  |  Link
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I haven't tried core audio, no. TrueHD didn't do much for me. DD+ crashes graphstudio when I try to select it. sigh. Can't even build the graph on that one. Awesome.
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Old 13th November 2009, 00:52   #9153  |  Link
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I've tried with your THD sample albain.
And i got core ac3 as stereo.
DTS-HD trials didn't work for me.

Samuri, i'd be appreciated if you upload your dtshd sample.

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Old 13th November 2009, 01:00   #9154  |  Link
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So it would be great guys if we give it a go with the same sample files.
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Old 13th November 2009, 01:03   #9155  |  Link
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I've tried with your THD sample albain.
And i got core ac3 as stereo.
DTS-HD trials didn't work for me.

Samuri, i'd be appreciated if you upload your dtshd sample.
Sample? Yea, about that. It's a freaking movie! I figure no guts no glory here. I ain't using some wussy couple of hundred megs of sample stuff here! We're talking full on 30 gig m2ts file in a BD structure mounted using VCD!! As for TrueHD and EAC, I use the samples albain provided plus a TrueHD movie of my own. I just load up the m2ts from the mounted drive and away we go.
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Hey, uh, albain....I had a DTS-HD MA mkv someone must have posted a few days ago sitting in my download dir. So I gave it a shot. Yea, um, I get DTS-HD MA lights on the receiver. No audio, but, here's a log man.

http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=d42ba3caf

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Old 13th November 2009, 09:06   #9157  |  Link
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as promised, Here is another DD+ sample:

(DD+ 7.1 Channel Test, untouched, From "The Sound of High Definition" Blu-Ray)

http://iknowu.net/files/public/Sampl...ne%20Test.m2ts

and here is another untouched TrueHD sample:

http://iknowu.net/files/public/Sampl...roduction.m2ts

(p.s. I have some DTS-HD MA samples as well)

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Old 13th November 2009, 14:25   #9158  |  Link
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Hi Guys...

I have been following this intressting topic now for few weeks....
It`s amazing what u guys are doing... !

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I have also a HTPC with an iGPU - 9300 (nvidia)...
Unfortunately there are the same problems with the new hd-sound formats.

I read something about how you shouldn't use the haali media splitter... Is that truth?

Which version of all needed tools (MPC-hc, ffdshow tryout, etc.) should I use to test TrueHD or DTS-HD with my system? Before I forget.. I have a Denon avr 2309.

greetz,
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Old 13th November 2009, 16:06   #9159  |  Link
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@Albain,

Tested latest beta kit with my Xonar. I get different result when testing through GraphStudio and MPC-HC. Double checked and both are using your version of MPC audio renderer.

MPC-HC

TrueHD

With TrueHD passthrough enabled the file plays ok however i get 2 channel LPCM, which keeps skipping or breaking up. FFDShow reports output as 48000Hz, 6 channels 16-bit integer.

Here's the log... http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=m37e5646f

With TrueHD passthrough disabled, same results. It's not decoding and outputting as LPCM as it normally would do.

Here's the log... http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=m46bd667

DTS-HD MA

With DTS-HD passthrough enabled the file plays ok however i get 2 channel LPCM, which plays ok. FFDShow reports output as 48000Hz, 6 channels 16-bit integer.

Here's the log... http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=m2c22e815

With DTS-HD passthrough disabled i get the DTS core as normal. This plays fine.


GraphStudio

TrueHD

With TrueHD passthrough enabled, the file plays ok however i get no audio. My av receiver's display keeps flashing up with 2 channel LPCM every few seconds.

Here's the log... http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=m48ddc2

With TrueHD passthrough disabled, same results. Again it's not decoding and outputting as LPCM as it normally would do.

Here's the logs... http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=m3cfc598f

DTS-HD MA

With DTS-HD passthrough enabled, same result as TrueHD.

Here's the log... http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=m7b5418f6

With DTS-HD passthrough disabled, i get DTS core however no audio. Again my av reciever's display flashes up DTS every few seconds.

Thanks
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Old 13th November 2009, 17:47   #9160  |  Link
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Hi,

@liquidskin : in both cases (TrueHD/DTSHD) the format is refused by your audio driver. Try to communicate with SamuriHL or Sebastii who got it working on their radeon 5xxx (you're using a radeon 5xxx right ?)


The status : FFDShow is okay since yesterday (in the last beta 31 build), for DTSHD, EAC3 and TrueHD. I mean that the bitstream is correct

So if you guys don't get any sound, then the problem comes from the wasapi renderer.

I have built a new one with a different approach (event driver, but I will spare the details). This approach doesn't work on my system but this is a audio driver matter.

Here is the link
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