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Old 13th September 2019, 21:03   #57381  |  Link
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So you're suggesting that all the work madshi has put in to this product is only worth "25-30 bucks for a lifetime license" to you? I would disagree with that assertion. Many of us have been asking for a donation link to give him far more than that to show our appreciation. He's consistently said wait for the pro version. If you're not willing to pay for a pro version, then the free version will always be available according to madshi.
i'm saying he has Envy as his premium product that came into being thanks to madVR.
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Old 13th September 2019, 21:10   #57382  |  Link
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Uh huh. And? That has nothing to do with offering a Pro version of madvr.
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Old 13th September 2019, 23:13   #57383  |  Link
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I would be more than happy to pay around 100€ for a madVR Pro version, its more than worth it ...
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Old 14th September 2019, 00:21   #57384  |  Link
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how could you judge the content of something you don't know.
you don't know what the "pro" version will bring.
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Old 14th September 2019, 00:43   #57385  |  Link
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Nope, we don't. I have enjoyed madvr for many years for free. Throwing some cash towards madshi by buying the pro version is reasonable to me, regardless of what it includes. For me it's about showing appreciation for a developer I respect. I have no doubt that the pro version will be worth it, no matter what he chooses to include. I've already been building a wish list of features and keep throwing hints at him about them. LOL But I have no expectation about what a pro version will or won't include.
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Old 14th September 2019, 01:45   #57386  |  Link
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... Throwing some cash towards madshi by buying the pro version is reasonable to me, regardless of what it includes. For me it's about showing appreciation for a developer I respect...
I fully agree.
Moreover, a paid version may also make it viable from a personal perspective to continue working on it for the next years.
Even knowing that a free version will exist, i will definitively buy the paid version when its available.
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Old 14th September 2019, 17:05   #57387  |  Link
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Finally got my Red Dragon RX 5700 XT and I am loving it! I realize it's anecdotal and there are a million variables, but I'm getting some incredible render times (~20ms for NGU High chroma and tone mapping, for example). I am SO glad I returned my reference 5700 and waited for the aftermarket 5700 XT. I am a little nervous with the recent talk of utilizing Tensor Cores, but who even knows if/when that will actually be relevant? I'll likely be a happy camper for the next couple years...
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Old 14th September 2019, 18:09   #57388  |  Link
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I don't think you AMD guys and gals have anything really to worry about. The Envy is based on the RTX cards and tensor cores, which MAY or may not trickle down into madvr at some point. However, given the freaking insane processing power of these new AMD cards, I think you're going to be able to drive awesome quality out of madvr either way. I wouldn't sweat it. And who knows what capabilities those cards could unlock going forward. I think the future looks good no matter which direction you go. The reviews you guys are giving for these new AMD cards is very positive. Much more so than any of the previous generation of cards. That's awesome!
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Old 14th September 2019, 18:23   #57389  |  Link
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if madVR uses tensor cores AMD cards simply can't run that filter they are simply unable to do that he has to rewrite the hole shader so it can run much much slower on AMD cards.
and there is nothing to unlock there is no additional hardware.
these cards have 2560 streaming processors and there is nothing wrong with that they are made to render games.
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So they didn't add any additional hardware for encoding/decoding? That's a shame. And no, of course they wouldn't be able to take advantage of any tensor core algorithms that may, or may not, get added to madvr. I didn't know if AMD had added something similar in their cards but it would seem the answer to that is a resounding NO. That's definitely a pity.
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Old 14th September 2019, 18:38   #57391  |  Link
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they have added new decoder and updated the encoder but nothing any madVR filter or render software will ever care about.
both are not competitive with nvidia or intel but the decoder are good enough(i hope still investigating) and you usually don't need more then what these new cards have to offer for now and it is currently not important if a card can decode 120 fps or only 60 fps both are enough.
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Yea, and we don't even KNOW for sure that the tensor core algorithms will make it down to madvr. And even if they do, is it going to be "soon"? Possibly not. I think you could potentially get a year or two before it's even relevant. Unless madshi surprises us.
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Old 16th September 2019, 04:01   #57393  |  Link
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I finally had to break down and setup profiles. That was a long time coming but now that I've got my RTX 2070 and TV shows are starting to come back, I'll be using madvr to upscale my TiVo recordings. XFinity is not exactly known for their high quality. LOL So things like Walking Dead 720p 3mbps need a fair bit of assistance compared to upscaling a nice 1080p blu-ray (man you should see Revenge of the Sith upscaled on my C8! Very High NGU sharp for luma and high NGU AA for chroma WOA!). But, it also takes quite a bit more processing power to upscale at 60fps than it does at 23.976, especially when going from 720->2160. It's a "bit of a jump" as it were. I'm not able to get to Very High on luma upscaling NGU sharp. I can do High as long as I set chroma down to medium NGU AA. I suspect a 2080ti wouldn't have much issue. Such is life. I knew the 2070 would be a compromise when I bought it but I have no regrets. madvr handles the upscaling very well and cleans that picture up nicely. Bring on my shows.
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I am having a lot of presentation glitches with RX 5700, one in every 5-10 seconds, while the rendering time is 20ms and dropped frame is 0, any ideas?
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Old 16th September 2019, 04:36   #57395  |  Link
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What do the queues look like?

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Old 16th September 2019, 04:53   #57396  |  Link
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They are mostly full.
Decoder: 23-24 / 24
Upload: 17-18 /18
Render: 16-18 /18
Present: 11-12 /12

rendering time: 20 ms
present time: 0.7 ms
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Old 16th September 2019, 10:19   #57397  |  Link
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I am having a lot of presentation glitches with RX 5700, one in every 5-10 seconds, while the rendering time is 20ms and dropped frame is 0, any ideas?
have you got FSE turned on?
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Old 16th September 2019, 11:10   #57398  |  Link
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They are mostly full.
Decoder: 23-24 / 24
Upload: 17-18 /18
Render: 16-18 /18
Present: 11-12 /12

rendering time: 20 ms
present time: 0.7 ms
Queues are higher than default. Have you tried the default queues?

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Old 16th September 2019, 11:14   #57399  |  Link
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0.7 ms present time sounds like a lot. On both my systems in FSW (present queue 4) it's 0.12
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Old 16th September 2019, 11:42   #57400  |  Link
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I concur... try lowering the queue sizes back to default and see if that helps.

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