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Old 18th August 2007, 17:57   #1  |  Link
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Media Player Classic for HD-DVD and Blu-Ray

have been playing around with MPC to play HD-DVD and Blu-Ray.
I think I have finally got it sorted, and the filter list took some playing around with to get all the different combinations working.
You will need some way to decrypt your files first (I used AnyDVD HD)

HD-DVD .evo files DTS, DD+
Blu-Ray .m2ts files, mpeg2, VC1, mpeg4 AVC

You need (I'm not telling you how to register filters on your PC)
Windows Media Player 11
cl264dec.ax (Video)(cyberlink H264/AVC Decoder from PowerDVD Ultra)*
splitter.ax (Haali media splitter (AR) from Haali Matroska splitter)
cinemaster audio.dll (Audio)(Sonic Cinemaster Audio Decoder v 4.3 from Cineplayer Codec Pack) **
ffdshow.ax (Audio)(ffdshow audio decoder from FFDshow)

Media Player Classic settings

select view/options/External filters/
Add filter ....... Haali Media Splitter (AR), set merit 00900000, set prefer
Add Filter ........ ffdshow audio decoder, set merit 00700000
Add filter ....... cyberlink H.264/AVC Decoder, set merit 00900400
Add Filter ........ Sonic Cinemaster Audio Decoder 4.3.0, set merit 00805000
Add Filter ........ ffdshow video decoder, set merit 00800000 (added to stop ffdshow taking over MPEG-4)
Add Filter ....... Sonic Cinemaster Video Decoder, set merit 00700000 (late fix to stop Cinemaster Video taking over from ffdshow video)
** Add Filter ........ Cyberlink Video/SP Decoder (pdvd7), set merit "prefer" (try this for some hardware acceleration in XP)
** Add Filter ........ Nvidia Video Decoder, set merit "prefer" (block cyberlink) (try this for h/w accel in XP or Vista if you have Nvidia Purevideo)

select view/options/Internal filters
deselect anything mpeg , matroska from the source list
deselect anything AC3, mpeg from the transport filter list

select view/options/output
Select the options you like the look of (I used VMR9 renderless)

Here are some screen shots showing each combination of filters in action, just drag and drop the big files into MPC.

HD-DVD .evo (most common VC1 with DD+) 2 Fast 2 Furious **


HD-DVD .evo (VC1 with DTS-HD) Rambo First Blood


Blu-Ray .m2ts (most common MPEG-2) Planet of the Apes


Blu-Ray .m2ts (VC1) Starship Troopers


Blu-Ray .m2ts (MPEG-4 AVC) Pirates of the Caribbean *



"Print Screen" will give a desktop screen grab then paste into "Paint" to save at your set screen resolution.
"File / Save Image" in MPC will give a full 1080 grab

If any of your files don't work, take a look to see what filter you have different to mine. Ordering filters is dead easy really, you have to put them on the External list before you can move them up or down in priority.

Tested on Vista 32 and Windows XP and works perfectly but takes plenty of processor power.
This solves all the Nvidia/PowerDVD green screen problems too.

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I am assuming you have Windows Media Player installed (v11), it won't work at all on PCs without this installed.
Cinemaster codecs v4.2 won't work either!


Advantages of using MPC
You don't have to waste time with menus, trailers and adverts
You can zoom the movie to get rid of the black bars (numpad key 9)
You don't need an approved graphics card

Disadvantages of using MPC
Minimum processor Core2 Duo (any one will do)
No Dolby TrueHD tracks available using Haali splitter

I have been experimenting with Vista and XP,
Xp will play "2 fast 2 furious" on a C2D with 60% CPU perfectly
Vista will play "2 fast 2 furious" on a C2D wit 100% CPU and stutter

My conclusion is stick to XP!

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Old 23rd August 2007, 17:15   #2  |  Link
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added this fix for some HD-DVDs (The Reaping)

Add Filter ........ Sonic Cinemaster Video Decoder , set merit 00700000 (else this takes over some HD-DVDs)
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I think it plays better with VLC
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Old 2nd September 2007, 21:25   #4  |  Link
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How do you change the combination of filters?

I'm trying to play the Bluray movie, Blood Diamond, after decrypting it, but it does not work with Medai Player Classic. I tried playing the other director's clips and they work just fine. Thus, how do you change the combination of filters? Or do you think there is a problem with the main movie clip since the director's clips work? Thanks!
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Old 2nd September 2007, 22:24   #5  |  Link
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I would need a snap of your active filters when playing that movie to have any idea what was going wrong.
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Old 3rd September 2007, 05:20   #6  |  Link
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External Filters

Here's a snapshot of my external filters:

http://s61.photobucket.com/albums/h4...nalFilters.jpg

Thanks!
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Old 3rd September 2007, 14:46   #7  |  Link
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I need to see your "active filters" ..... like in my thumbs
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Old 3rd September 2007, 18:04   #8  |  Link
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Active Filters

Sorry. Here they are:

http://s61.photobucket.com/albums/h4...iveFilters.jpg
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Old 5th December 2007, 02:20   #9  |  Link
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I would need a snap of your active filters when playing that movie to have any idea what was going wrong.

You do know that you can use GraphEdit to do the same thing without the process of screen shots? Go to this Wiki to see what it is and how you download it and use it. It is part of MS DirectX SDK and most computer have DirectX installed as part of DirectShow, so it should be on your computer from the start.

When you want to create a filer graph you just go to File>Render Media File in GraphEdit. That will load media file, connect all directshow filter and play (render video and audio) video. You can also connect to a playing file from MPC (it is a directshow based player) with GraphEdit to see how the filter chain was created.

GraphEdit can be used to save a filter chain as a file (.grf) instead of creating a screen shot, which will save you from the work to use MS Paint and save it as bit map file. Could be useful tool to help other find a filter chain or to guide them without need of large images.

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Old 7th December 2007, 17:51   #10  |  Link
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hi ...i tray to play .evo on MPclassic ...I see the video but no audio (audio is DD+) .... i set powerdvd audio and video external filters. how filter i need for dd+ audio ? thanks

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Set "Cinemaster Video Decoder" to BLOCK on your external filter list
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Still doesn't play. Why would the director's cuts play and not the movie?
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It's probably MPEG2 whereas the other is VC-1 or H.264. Ah, according to blu-ray.com it is VC-1. You probably need an updated Sonic decoder pack, or installing WMP11 should also include the needed codecs.
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Old 4th September 2007, 03:04   #14  |  Link
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Thanks. I installed WMP11 and it works.
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Old 4th September 2007, 09:47   #15  |  Link
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I am assuming you have Windows Media Player installed (v11), it mostly doesn't work at all on PCs without this installed.
You didn't read the first post!
The "WMVideo Decoder DMO" codec (plays VC-1) in WMP11 is substantially different to that same codec (doesn't play VC-1) in WMP10
I have just highlighted that part of my post so others don't miss it.

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Okay I used this, and it worked (on Swordfish (MPEG2) m2ts)

But now .mkv files (x264) do not play anymore. Any suggestions how to solve this?

I can see the movie when I pause it, but it does not play at all! Haali media splitter icon appears, in the right lower corner. It appears that "Cyberlink H264/AVC" wants to play the video but it does not work.

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Okay blocking "Cyberlink H264/AVC" works, now it does play. But is there a way around this problem? And Swordfish still plays, but that is probably because it is MPEG2, I assume.
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Cyberlink h264/AVC is the only codec to play Blu-Ray MPEG-4/AVC coded movies. If you want to play them you need it, if you don't then block it.
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Thanks! Got it working... a bit choppy on my machine, but I'll overclock it again to get smoother playback.

Anyway to get menus/navigation of the HD DVD through MPC?
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Stuttering problem for Bluray

Sh4dow recommended using coreavc v1.6.0.0 instead of the cyberlink H.264/AVC Decoder to resolve a stuttering problem on HD movies, but will this solve the stuttering problem for Bluray? I will have to try it once I get coreavc.

Is anyone else having a slight stuttering problem with Bluray? If so, any suggestions to resolve it?
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Sh4dow recommended using coreavc v1.6.0.0 instead of the cyberlink H.264/AVC Decoder to resolve a stuttering problem on HD movies, but will this solve the stuttering problem for Bluray? I will have to try it once I get coreavc.

Is anyone else having a slight stuttering problem with Bluray? If so, any suggestions to resolve it?
Yes... I cannot get 24p playback to work smoothly in MPC. I have abandoned my hopes of using it to playback Bluray and HD DVD files and have started using ArcSoft TotalMedia and PowerDVD
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