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Old 10th January 2011, 10:16   #10881  |  Link
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Absolutely.

1) Peeping Tom VID_00003 has two 24bit mono LPCM tracks, both in English.
2) Treasure of Sierra Madre VID_00026 has eight 16bit stereo LPCM tracks; tracks #1, #7 and #8 are in English.

In both cases the audio in question is quite short in length (61 secs for Peeping Tom, 124 secs for ToSM). Also in both cases all processed audio tracks are identical in content.
I rebooted the encoding rig and ran a full backup of Treasure of Sierra Madre. Like before, the process was stopped by an Audio reencoding error at VID_00026.
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Thanks. Please let me know what you find. I've had some odd things happen with MPEG-2 sources on a couple of occasions -- but it was always from a DVD source that had been converted, not a commercially authored blu-ray.
The audio is back in sync, and the time matches as well. The clips are now reported as 480i/29.970fps/16:9/High Profile 4.1.
So it appears selecting IVTC sources with 3:2 pulldown was the culprit on this one.
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Old 10th January 2011, 17:55   #10883  |  Link
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The audio is back in sync, and the time matches as well. The clips are now reported as 480i/29.970fps/16:9/High Profile 4.1.
So it appears selecting IVTC sources with 3:2 pulldown was the culprit on this one.
Can you post the AVS for this one? I want to see the difference. Another thing... are you using "IVTC_TELECIDE=0"?
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Old 10th January 2011, 18:35   #10884  |  Link
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Can you post the AVS for this one? I want to see the difference. Another thing... are you using "IVTC_TELECIDE=0"?
AVS is exactly the same as previous run with IVTC selected:
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#Created by BD Rebuilder - v0.37.01 (beta)
DirectshowSource("G:\BD RIPS\CASE_39_AC\BDMV\STREAM\00016.m2ts", fps=29.97, framecount=1494, ConvertFPS=true, audio=false)
ConvertToYV12()
LoadPlugin("C:\Users\Ed\Desktop\BD-RBV03701B\tools\decomb521.dll")
FieldDeinterlace(blend=false)
ConvertToYV12().AssumeFPS(30000,1001)
I am not using "IVTC_TELECIDE=0". I have not added anything to below options.

Seems like x264/pulldown setting might be the cause?
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Old 10th January 2011, 18:58   #10885  |  Link
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I'm curious what your output sizes were on those 2 movies Jdobbs. Or if you experience undersizing at all in general
E.g. Knight and day, and Dinner For Schmucks

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Old 10th January 2011, 23:09   #10886  |  Link
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Sorry to barge in - couple of quick questions/requests on some feature enhancements:

1] Is it possible to do Full backup with a few selected things removed?
2] Can we add/replace an audio/sub track in any mode?
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Old 11th January 2011, 00:21   #10887  |  Link
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The tile of this thread is quite clear - It is for reporting bugs ONLY...
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Old 11th January 2011, 00:22   #10888  |  Link
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AVS is exactly the same as previous run with IVTC selected:


I am not using "IVTC_TELECIDE=0". I have not added anything to below options.

Seems like x264/pulldown setting might be the cause?
I think you're right. It seems as if the 3:2 pulldown is being added even though no IVTC was being performed... that would explain the weird framerates. Hmmm... I'll take a look at that.
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I'm curious what your output sizes were on those 2 movies Jdobbs. Or if you experience undersizing at all in general
E.g. Knight and day, and Dinner For Schmucks
I normally only experience the slight undersizing I purposely put in. Not sure specifically about those two.

I'm running "Schmucks" now at High Quality and custom size set to 23450. I'll see how it comes out in a few hours.
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I generally only go full backup. I've been purposely trying to increase the output size a few megabytes at a time. I don't believe that is why my last significant undersize occurred though. Because Knight and Day was 1gb undersize, and it was with the default custom size of 23450(which I'll probably just stick with)....
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I generally only go full backup. I've been purposely trying to increase the output size a few megabytes at a time. I don't believe that is why my last significant undersize occurred though. Because Knight and Day was 1gb undersize, and it was with the default custom size of 23450(which I'll probably just stick with)....
The default BD-25 size is 23500 (22.94GB, it increased several versions ago), so going 23450 isn't actually "increasing". Normally with the default I get about 22.5GB -- which I believe is pretty close without risk. Since muxing overhead on an M2TS can be unpredictable, you have to leave a little cushion. A BD-25 maxes out at about 23.3GB.
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I haven't ran any jobs on my primary, and the program is set for 23450(Custom). I generally average 22.8-22.9Gb set at 23450.
Ok, I'm trying to understand now. By default BD-25 ouput is 23040. But if one goes to "custom target size" output, initially the program is set for 23450, Right???
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I haven't ran any jobs on my primary, and the program is set for 23450(Custom). I generally average 22.8-22.9Gb set at 23450.
Ok, I'm trying to understand now. By default BD-25 ouput is 23040. But if one goes to "custom target size" output, initially the program is set for 23450, Right???
The default for "Target Size BD-25" from the menu is 23500. The custom can be anything, but if it isn't set it uses, 23450, yes. I should probably change that to match the BD-25 default.

I'm not sure where you get the 23040... unless I used that a long time ago. I'm trying to adjust upward a little at a time until I hit the "sweet spot".
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Your previous post suggested 23040 was the default output size for BD-25 Unless I read it wrong, in which I Humbly apologize.

I think I'll probably just stick with the Default. and hope for 22.5Gb like you average. I've now seen 2 movies though that completed at 21.7 and 21.8Gb. I suppose 2 movies out of 20 - 30 movies isn't a bad frequency
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Your previous post suggested 23040 was the default output size for BD-25 Unless I read it wrong, in which I Humbly apologize.

I think I'll probably just stick with the Default. and hope for 22.5Gb like you average. I've now seen 2 movies though that completed at 21.7 and 21.8Gb. I suppose 2 movies out of 20 - 30 movies isn't a bad frequency
That's a pretty large drift off the norm. I'll see how "Schmucks" ends up with the custom size of 23450. It should come in only slightly smaller than 22.5GB.
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AVS is exactly the same as previous run with IVTC selected:


I am not using "IVTC_TELECIDE=0". I have not added anything to below options.

Seems like x264/pulldown setting might be the cause?
Do you still have the log from the problem encode? Can you look and see if BD-RB identified them as "hybrid"?

[Edit] Never mind. I think I found it, there was a section of code (not hit often) where the hybrid flag was set, but the ivtc flag wasn't being reset (as it should with hybrid).

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The tile of this thread is quite clear - It is for reporting bugs ONLY...
Thank You Sir, seems to sometimes lose It's flavor.
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Do you still have the log from the problem encode? Can you look and see if BD-RB identified them as "hybrid"?

[Edit] Never mind. I think I found it, there was a section of code (not hit often) where the hybrid flag was set, but the ivtc flag wasn't being reset (as it should with hybrid).

Good catch.
Glad to be of help!
A partial of two of the clips from the log, but all 18 clips are the same:
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- [17:14:45] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00016]
- [17:14:47] Reencoding: VID_00016 (8 of 29)
- [17:14:47] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 1,494 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- Bitrate: 868 Kbs
- [17:14:47] Reencoding: VID_00016, Pass 1 of 1
- [17:14:57] Video Encode complete
- [17:14:57] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [17:14:57] Multiplexing M2TS
- [17:14:58] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00017]
- [17:15:00] Reencoding: VID_00017 (9 of 29)
- [17:15:00] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 1,684 frames
- Inverse Telecining in effect (IVTC)
- Bitrate: 846 Kbs
- [17:15:00] Reencoding: VID_00017, Pass 1 of 1
- [17:15:10] Video Encode complete
- [17:15:10] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [17:15:11] Multiplexing M2TS
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A partial of two of the clips from the log, but all 18 clips are the same:
If I made a test version for you, do you think you could run it to see if this was the problem?
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If I made a test version for you, do you think you could run it to see if this was the problem?
I would be happy to. Just let me know.
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