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Old 29th November 2019, 22:15   #57921  |  Link
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My 4k video downscales if refresh switch is on. It follows the refresh rate of 1080p


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are you saying that if you play a 4k video you want MADVR to play it at 4k but if you play a 1080p video you want to play it at 1080p and let your TV upscale it?

Its not really clear what you are trying to achieve, please explain in detail and we'll try to help you, giving short ambiguous anwers isnt helping.
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Old 29th November 2019, 23:24   #57922  |  Link
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are you saying that if you play a 4k video you want MADVR to play it at 4k but if you play a 1080p video you want to play it at 1080p and let your TV upscale it?



Its not really clear what you are trying to achieve, please explain in detail and we'll try to help you, giving short ambiguous anwers isnt helping.


If I'm playing 4k video and refresh switch is on, it follows that of 1080ps refresh rates and resolution, effectively downscaling the video. I want madvr to follow the refresh rate of the video's resolution and stop the downscaling

Tried profile switching and it's not working. It's still following that of 1080ps


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Old 30th November 2019, 17:06   #57923  |  Link
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Hi guys,

Anybody here with and nvidia card and Windows 10 1909? would you please check if 10bit is working?
Here, D3D11 FSE or Windowed seems Limited to 8bit, i've tried couple of studio and gaming drivers, madvr stable and test build 112b.. unfortunately nothing is working.
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Old 30th November 2019, 17:53   #57924  |  Link
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Hi, dropped my AMD RX 5700 in today (not the XT version). With my current settings unchanged with HDR to SDR i was running at about 63ms on my RX580 and playback was glitchy. I'm now on 28ms so this is a pretty decent card.

very happy with that.
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Old 30th November 2019, 18:28   #57925  |  Link
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Install MPC Video Renderer and test with D3D9 and with D3D11.
D3D11 should be fine. D3D9 should be too bright, so elevated blacks. I found that issue, but didn‘t want to mess around with graphic cards switching. So it looks like a driver issue only for 5700 (XT), because I never saw that with my RX480.
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Old 30th November 2019, 19:11   #57926  |  Link
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I will check that D3D9 vs 11 thing... For a long time my blacks have been too low. Even with my R9 270X. I am currently using a driver brightness of 7 for both my displays. I have noticed this crush Windows wide, even on the desktop.

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Old 30th November 2019, 22:17   #57927  |  Link
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Install MPC Video Renderer and test with D3D9 and with D3D11.
D3D11 should be fine. D3D9 should be too bright, so elevated blacks. I found that issue, but didn‘t want to mess around with graphic cards switching. So it looks like a driver issue only for 5700 (XT), because I never saw that with my RX480.
yeah spotted that, only happens with EVR renderer i found but with all decoders, havent played with it much as MADVR is my main driver but the workaround for evr user is to add 16-235 to 0-255 filer/shader on post.
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Old 1st December 2019, 09:03   #57928  |  Link
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@mclingo - glad it worked.
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Old 1st December 2019, 14:51   #57929  |  Link
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@mclingo - glad it worked.
cheers, very happy with its performance to be honest too, no issues with MADVR at all, everything works as it should which is great.

Purely for MADVR use this is a good card but there are bugs with other renderers so it would be hard to recommend this card as a general HTPC card right now, hoping AMD will fix the bugs at some point.
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Old 1st December 2019, 16:14   #57930  |  Link
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madVR and MPC Video Renderer in D3D11 is fine. So it‘s fine for me and my HTPC usage, but they have to fix it and surely they will. I also really want a new Nvidia card in a future pc build next year, but if the recent gaming issues still persist, see pdf info of Nvidia, all games I personally play, are affected, random bsod are a no go especially for older games. But I really want one, I can then compare the two directly and am not a AMD fanboy and both will have its pros and cons, but the Nvidia must be better then, so I can also do gaming without issues like random bsod.
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Old 1st December 2019, 17:00   #57931  |  Link
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exactly how did you fix the elevated blacks issue, I cant get it working in MPC-HC or BE without using MADVR or a 18-235 to 0-255 filter
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Old 1st December 2019, 17:06   #57932  |  Link
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Install MPC Video Renderer and check D3D11 in options. It works like a charm.
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Old 1st December 2019, 17:32   #57933  |  Link
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cheers, got that working, had to install MPC-BE latest beta though (1.54) as MPC renderer doesnt show up in 1.53
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Old 1st December 2019, 18:02   #57934  |  Link
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the current driver list 3 games with issues that's it. and none of these are confirmed to be a driver problem. not saying there not much much more issues but they don't list them and no word of a BSOD.

btw. how comes that major video playback bugs like crashing hardware decoding are not listed in your driver bug list thingy?

you feel free to read about it:
https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/re...rad-win-19-9-3

this is the second driver where they claimed it to be fixed and it seem that'S the case for the majority.
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Old 1st December 2019, 18:07   #57935  |  Link
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the current driver list 3 games with issues that's it. and none of these are confirmed to be a driver problem. not saying there not much much more issues but they don't list them and no word of a BSOD.

btw. how comes that major video playback bugs like crashing hardware decoding are not listed in your driver bug list thingy?

you feel free to read about it:
https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/re...rad-win-19-9-3

this is the second driver where they claimed it to be fixed and it seem that'S the case for the majority.
Sorry, only the game crashes, no BSOD, much better
What do you expect, it is a new architecture, just give them some time. AMD isn't fixing a typo for me, but I can not be mad at them somehow.

Tell me driver version and exactly what crashes when using what hardwaredecoder (does it matter?), then I add it. Feed me with info
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all hardware decoder are crashing the driver since the release of 5700 series with these cards obviously.

maybe i have to be more clear if you use DXVA2 or D3D11 decode the player can crash at any point.

fixed with 19.9.3 so all older ones.

nvidia is releasing a new architecture every 1-2 years i would never except a thing like it is a new architecture give them some months- stuff like this is not ok.

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Radeon RX 5700 series graphics products may intermittently experience loss of display or video signal during gameplay.
this is my current favoured bug. renamed for the 3rd time now?
short version is the driver crashes. at least is not a general issue.
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Old 1st December 2019, 18:48   #57937  |  Link
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Comparing Nvidia, which is a specialist for "only" for GPU with the small AMD which also does CPUs, don't be so hard to them
AMD already made Intel CPUs way cheaper, for HEDT half the price.
Jay has a 9980XE which was 2000$, the new 10980XE is 1000$
Please watch entire video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVccnAr39Mo

But I must admit both worlds (team red and team green) are not good at driver quality, seems to be very hard to do.
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@huhn and all: Feel free to feed me with more info, I add it to the driver issues thread
@huhn: I added the info, if I have to change anything, let me know
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Comparing Nvidia, which is a specialist for "only" for GPU with the small AMD which also does CPUs, don't be so hard to them
Maybe they should stop with GPUs then if they can't make a quality product, maybe take a break until they can figure it out. Come back stronger.

The 5700 is 5 months old by now, plenty to fix launch issues, if they can't make it run stable and do something simple like play video in EVR properly, then thats not a good sign at all.

The same conditions apply to every piece of hardware I would consider to buy. If it doesn't work, then its not getting bought, I don't care about the excuses ("its a small company, give them a break"). My real problem is that I have to deal with people that don't know this and still buy them (both at work and here), who have weird issues and blame software, because their shiny brand new GPU can't possibly be at fault.
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Old 1st December 2019, 20:12   #57940  |  Link
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I agree with all of your points, but Nvidia prices were getting ridiculous in RTX series, so a competitor is needed to get the prices down.
Do a flashback to the RTX launch, the first driver for RTX models was 411.63 from 2018-09-19, but HDR passthrough for users who don't can afford such high prices for a graphics card who (need to) use HDR passthough had bogus metadata sent out.
430.39 from 2019-04-23 fixed it but removed 3D support, which may also be a point for HTPC users who have bought lots of 3D titles. It took them also over 6 month to fix it.

Nevertheless I will buy a new Nvidia card for my new PC next year. Looking foward for the beast
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