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Old 22nd June 2019, 14:51   #56661  |  Link
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you can't beat 8+FRC with 8 bit alone if the processing isn't flawed but it's generally flawed.

10 bit dithered feed into 8 frc should show less noise.

this get's complicated with YCbCr and RGB.
even YcbCr 4:2:2 with BD player have a major problem and it should be dithered to 12 bit.
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Old 22nd June 2019, 20:45   #56662  |  Link
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Did the May major update remove Direct3d 9? Since updating, my black levels are severely raised. I accidentally solved this by switching presentation to Direct3d 11. This is on a 730 GT with the 399.24 driver.

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My apologies for the lack of information recently. FYI, I've been working on the Envy 24/7 for several months now, with good progress. I'm getting near to having a beta unit ready. It will be shown behind closed doors to key companies and people only (for now). Depending on how things go I hope to be able to start releasing more detailed info publicly soon...
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Old 23rd June 2019, 10:40   #56664  |  Link
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I own Lenovo Ideapad 320 i3-7100u with iGPU Intel 620 and GPU GeForce 940MX. I have tried to watch .mkv remux of Gladiator 2160p 23.976 HDR 10bit, but it's not smooth. Rendering is below 41.71ms, but there are lots of dropped frames. Notebook is conntected to my monitor LG 27UK600-W 4K HDR via HDMI cables via Onkyo TX-NR686 (HDMI 2.0b HDCP 2.2).

MPC-HC 1.8.6, madVR 0.92.17, LAV Filters 0.74.1

NVIDIA Control Panel set to maximum performance of 940MX, Windows 10 1809 also 940MX.
LAV Filters - Video Decoder - D3D11 and 940MX

This notebook hardware is to weak to have no frame drops or I am doing something wrong?

Thank you in advance for your help and replies.

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With DXVA2 Native or D3D11 Native decoding, and low madVR settings, you can play stuff surprisingly well on NUCs. So yeah, it should be mostly fine. Just don't expect too much from madVR, since the GPU is weak.
Above posts for reminder only. I would like to ask about Fullscreen Exclusive Mode, I mean when I enable it, I have only Multichannel not Bitstreaming. In Windowed Mode I have Bitstreaming without any problems DTS:X, Dolby Atmos etc. I use Windows 10 1809.

Are there any workaround to have FSE Mode and Bitstreaming?

Thank you in advance for your help and support.

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AFAIK these two settings (how the sound is processed and how the picture is displayed) should be completely unrelated...
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Dear Charky

Yes, I was also confused, but I didn't change any other settings, just Fullscreen/Windowed and I have Multichanel PCM/Bitstreaming. Maybe it's something related with Windows 10 and Fullscreen Exclusive?

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Don't waste your time, just use Windowed mode.
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MS just pushed out build 18922 on fast-ring, and banding errors are gone (on my rig), without having to use the workaround.
What is the work around?
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Don't waste your time, just use Windowed mode.
...but I will lose my 10 bit in Windowed Mode.

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...but I will lose my 10 bit in Windowed Mode.
Windowed Fullscreen allows 10 bit.
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Old 24th June 2019, 21:50   #56672  |  Link
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Hi,

Wäre can i find the latest Beta of madvr?

Gesendet von meinem SM-N960F mit Tapatalk
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Old 24th June 2019, 22:16   #56673  |  Link
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here: http://madshi.net/madVRhdrMeasure86.zip
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Is this the current most accurate detecting version ?

And can someone explain the brightness settings in detail ?
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I have tried most of madVR beta versions, and eventually went back to official version 17 as it is the best version that gives me very good results.
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Well it is the latest one, they are still working out the quirks, best bet is to read the forum that these are on, but I for one have no idea on the majority of the settings and use what the testers use. As for what they all do, no idea, and I think a lot will be hidden on a final build, its all gone quiet at the moment as madshi works on the ENVY by the looks of it.

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If you are talking about HDR to SDR then I think you will be mistaken as they have put a lot of work into the later test builds, but if you are happy then who can argue.
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Old 25th June 2019, 07:00   #56677  |  Link
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I have found a problem, why there is no Bitstreaming just Multichannel PCM. It was not a problem with Fullscreen Exclusive Mode/Fullscreen Windowed Mode. The problem is related with madVR 0.92.17 with display modes. If I have empty field "list all display modes madVR may switch to:" and I play any movie I have got DTS:X, Dolby Atmos etc., but when I enter for example: 2160p23, 1080p23 etc. and when I launch movie file and there is a change from for example: 2160p30 to 2160p23 or 1080p60 to 2160p23, I have got Multichannel PCM instead of Bitstreaming.

It's always during changing of display modes. There are two audio devices in hardware of Lenovo Ideapad 320: Intel HD Audio (HDMI to AV Received up to 7.1 with Dolby Atmos) and Realtek HD Audio (for notebook speakers only Stereo 2.0). After display change is made by madVR, something is going wrong, because LAV Audio lists Realtek HD Audio, but sound is going thru AV Receiver not notebook speakers. When I disable Relatek HD Audio in Windows Hardware Manager and leave only Intel HD Audio and then I play movie, LAV Audio shows errors and there is no sound only video. When I disable display modes in madVR by not entering any values, there is no problem at all.

I don't have idea, why this is happen and if the problem is with audio hardware Intel HD or Relatek HD or madVR, LAV Audio or other not mentioned.

Do you have any idea, what is the problem and how to solve it? Of course I can manualy change to 2160p23 and then play movies which are 23.976, but I would like to use madVR's display modes.

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Old 25th June 2019, 07:22   #56678  |  Link
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I wonder if this is similar to the problem here? (See post #480 and clsid's answer post #481)
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Old 25th June 2019, 07:30   #56679  |  Link
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sounds like yet another optimus issue.

it may switch the GPU to the nvidia in the FSE process and so losing the intel HDMI device in the process stopping bitstreaming.

if you have win 10 go to display settings -> graphics settings -classic app (it's a program windows...) -> browse add mpc-hc64.exe -> set it to power saving intel HD try again.
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I wonder if this is similar to the problem here? (See post #480 and clsid's answer post #481)
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sounds like yet another optimus issue.

it may switch the GPU to the nvidia in the FSE process and so losing the intel HDMI device in the process stopping bitstreaming.

if you have win 10 go to display settings -> graphics settings -classic app (it's a program windows...) -> browse add mpc-hc64.exe -> set it to power saving intel HD try again.
I will try your both solutions later (c.a. 8 hours from now), when I back from work to home. I will let you know about results.

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