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Old 3rd May 2006, 18:02   #401  |  Link
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why don't you just encode the AC3 Seperately? you can do the same SSRC transform in the audio config dialog. Your method seems strangely wrong to me.
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LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\DGMPGDec\dgdecode.dll")
loadplugin("C:\Program Files\avisynth 2.5\plugins\NicAudio.dll")
video=mpeg2source("C:\MyDox\My Videos\Staging\Deadwood 3\VTS_01_1.d2v",cpu=4)
audio=nicac3source("VTS_01_1 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.ac3",2)
audiodub(video,audio)
AssumeFPS(24,1,true)
SSRC(48000,false)
trim(123,456)
In this case this method is good, isn't it?
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Old 3rd May 2006, 18:10   #402  |  Link
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why don't you just encode the AC3 Seperately? you can do the same SSRC transform in the audio config dialog. Your method seems strangely wrong to me.
I can? Where, and how? I see no option for the slowdown/resample, just delay/gain and channel mix options. What am I missing? Can you walk me through how you would do it, if you don't mind?

I actually do it this way becuase I've got Robot4Rip set up to write the avisynth script for me in its "Finalize" stage. In R4R I can spend a minute setting up 4-6 jobs for a TV DVD then wander off for 40 minutes while it does all the rip-index-vobsub-avs cycles. Then I spend another minute queueing up the avs files for encoding in MeGUI. Every other workflow I've tried requires repeated attention during the preparation process. OCE is close, but (AFAIK) it won't do PAL->24 or subtitles. So I just use it when I don't need either, which generally means US NTSC IVTCd to 23.976fps or some UK TV DVDs made from 25fps video.

But if you know a better way (i.e. requires less of my time per DVD encode), I'm all ears.
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Old 3rd May 2006, 18:43   #403  |  Link
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LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\DGMPGDec\dgdecode.dll")
loadplugin("C:\Program Files\avisynth 2.5\plugins\NicAudio.dll")
video=mpeg2source("C:\MyDox\My Videos\Staging\Deadwood 3\VTS_01_1.d2v",cpu=4)
audio=nicac3source("VTS_01_1 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.ac3",2)
audiodub(video,audio)
AssumeFPS(24,1,true)
SSRC(48000,false)
trim(123,456)
In this case this method is good, isn't it?
true but your also assuming this hasn't already been done in the ripping or d2v creation stage. I suppose this could be a good thing for people who do avisynth editing for AMV's. I'll throw my support in for this feature.
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Can you guys implement the new free Nero AAC Encoder? You can find it here.

You can also read more about it here.
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Can you guys implement the new free Nero AAC Encoder? You can find it here.

You can also read more about it here.
I would also like to make this feature request.
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Old 4th May 2006, 19:31   #406  |  Link
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it doesn't work right now as a valid option. it only accepts wav files. and apparently only ones created using a microsoft encoder cause a .wav I have from one of my import DVD's doesn't work in the encoder.

I've also been pouring over their forums and it seems it doesn't work on 98% of the machines people are using. so until any of these bugs are resolved and they add support for other input formats I wouldn't recommend using it.
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Can MeGUI be expanded to include support for the CT AAC encoder? This would provide a nice alternative to Nero for HE encoding.

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And newest Nero AAC encoder, also.
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Old 5th May 2006, 07:04   #409  |  Link
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@jpl: can and will.. I don't know why it's not in the list but it has long since been an approved future feature.
@KPR: striked for rule 1.. two posts above Chronocross already explained why the encoder in question cannot be supported.
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it doesn't work right now as a valid option. it only accepts wav files. and apparently only ones created using a microsoft encoder cause a .wav I have from one of my import DVD's doesn't work in the encoder.
Use -ignorelength -q 0.4 -if - -of file.mp4 for stdin source.

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I've also been pouring over their forums and it seems it doesn't work on 98% of the machines people are using. so until any of these bugs are resolved and they add support for other input formats I wouldn't recommend using it.
It currently requires sse2 which isn't available in athlon xp and pentium 3 machines. Newer machines work and they've already said that they are working on a version which works on all machines.
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I've also been pouring over their forums and it seems it doesn't work on 98% of the machines people are using. so until any of these bugs are resolved and they add support for other input formats I wouldn't recommend using it.
AFAIK problem is in SSE2 (it reques SSE2 capable CPU)
And MeGUI doesn't need nothing except WAV via STDIN support
So it will be extreme easy to replace and use this encoder instead of NeroRaw.Exe + dll's
But we need to wait for support of non SSE2-capable CPU's first
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Guy's why just now clear some things, why just completly remove support for BeSweet and FAAC, there is not need anymore for audio encodings. Instead FAAC add support for CT. And we get MeGUI with tree most uses audio codecs, NERO,CT,MP3 and what you think about implementing four codec like OGG. This lastest beta of ogg is very good in everything.
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why just completly remove support for BeSweet
It's already gone.. ask berrinam.. some code is still there but the encoder shouldn't be registered anymore.. so.. when it's done, besweet support will be gone.
Ogg will come, too. And BeLight already supports various other encoders that could easily be integrated. FAAC will remain though because only faac allows to have a 100% open source solution.
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FAAC will remain though because only faac allows to have a 100% open source solution.
Yes but i think nobody uses him becouse can disturb quality

New NERO encoder just realised. non SSE2 machine works
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FAAC will remain though because only faac allows to have a 100% open source solution.
I've nothing against keeping FAAC besides Nero but Nero has one great advantage: They pay the appropriate license fees and thus downloading their coder is more legal than downloading faac binaries at least in some countries.
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and thus downloading their coder is more legal than downloading faac binaries at least in some countries.
well.. who pays the licensing fees for x264, xvid and lmp4? As private user you're not eligible to pay licensing fees unless you start mass distributing.
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Anycase I'm voiting for
-Keep FAAC (everything including configuration dialog is already done, we does't need any significant resources to support it into the future so why not)
-Replace NAAC by new free CLI encoder (lets call it ND AAC)
-Add CTAAC (from WinAmp) (lets call it CT AAC)

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Anycase I'm voiting for
-Keep FAAC (everything including configuration dialog is already done, we does't need any significant resources to support it into the future so why not)
-Replace NAAC by new free CLI encoder (lets call it ND AAC)
-Add CTAAC (from WinAmp) (lets call it CT AAC)
Agree
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By the way, the encoder has been updated and the zip file now includes two versions, one with sse2 and one without.
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@dimzon: That's exactly how I see it. Once berrinam commits, you'll be good to go
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