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5th May 2016, 02:42 | #37741 | Link | |
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All versions have been fairly stable for me. As long as things always improve, there is no need to release a final or a best version, but to keep improving. New interesting things that can be added are all around the place. Even more now with more powerful GPUs coming. EDIT ::: Maybe, at some point, have the render re-draw the image from games, or other applications instead of only MPC-HC. Adding more software it can work with would be interesting.
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5th May 2016, 09:55 | #37743 | Link | |
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5th May 2016, 10:26 | #37745 | Link | |
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But most of that is TV only anyway.
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5th May 2016, 13:15 | #37746 | Link | |
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But then again this looks impressive: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lQgpHg3VKs made using https://www.motiondsp.com/ikena-forensic/ But much like vinyl declicking/denoising audio demos that are always hard to believe, either intel agencies don't share those processed pictures at all or it's all a bunch of bs. |
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5th May 2016, 19:38 | #37747 | Link |
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I am no expert but I think even if they have some advanced image processing technique, they are probably looking for different thing like pattern or letter recognition, not to look good for the eyes.
And there is no magic out there, as you are always limited by pixels and TV often shown they can make thing out of nothing. Sent from my 306SH using Tapatalk |
5th May 2016, 20:14 | #37748 | Link |
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The big theory is called Super-Resolution as I understand it and it uses informations from previous frames in order to increase details but I have yet to see it used IRL and especially disclosed by intel agencies so again either it's all a big theoretical myth or they refuse to share the results possibly due to NDA's. Not something that will happen in real-time using mVR anyway so case closed I guess, NNEDI3 is as good as it's gonna get for our GPU's.
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5th May 2016, 21:37 | #37750 | Link |
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In the middle of a film the other day an update came up on my screen, I just said yes to it thinking it was for JRiver...
Two days later felt my image was looking softer, I opened up madvr to discover the version was different and many of my settings had changed. When I went to the sharpness tabs I see that there are extra settings in there Ive never seen, ringing plus others I forget. Was there a resent update a week ago? Can these updates arrive while playing a movie? What are these new settings I see and is there an explanation for them somewhere? Many thanks... |
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It would be great to have some news about madshi and madVR on the forum.
However madshi is still active on his bug tracker. Quote:
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6th May 2016, 00:51 | #37754 | Link | |
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How do I find out then what these "other" new settings are for on the sharpness page that wernt there before the update? Where do I go to get the explanations of the new settings? |
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6th May 2016, 01:17 | #37755 | Link |
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I still have the issue with MadVR on Windows 10 with AMD. I can only run it in they way I normally run it by using DX11 mode. If I set it to anything else I get a blank video on my HDTV using FSE. If I turn off delay by number of frames in FSE settings it works. But then if I switch back to windowed mode on the primary display MPC-HC crashes/hangs with the busy circle (but I can still get into MadVR settings when this happens). Also if I enabled delay playback in DX11 mode MPC-HC just hangs with the busy circle as soon as it goes FSE on the HDTV.
I have tried rolling back drivers, MadVR and MPC etc with no effect. I am beginning to wonder if something changed in one of the Windows 10 updates recently to cause this. I never had this issue before I don't think. Any advice? |
6th May 2016, 01:28 | #37756 | Link | |
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At 1080p -> 1080p, I like sharpen edges (0.5) + 50% AB + AR. Others may prefer crispen edges (0.5) + AR.
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6th May 2016, 02:21 | #37757 | Link | |
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http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...32063315003591 Otherwise, lots of video can be cleaned up if you know the artifacts to be from optics rather than from signal compression. Also entirely useless for movies, unless you want to make an anti-shaking camera filter. http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2011/10...new-video.html On topic: I've been trying out the super-xbr antibloat option a bit more. For low-res sources (480p or lower), sxbr AB is fantastic. It has a drastic effect on reducing line bloat. For 720p and higher, its effects are less visible and don't always outweight the weird ringing artifacts it causes. The performance cost of AB vs no AB is also pretty substantial at the moment, but I can't see why that couldn't change in the future. Last edited by har3inger; 6th May 2016 at 02:25. |
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6th May 2016, 02:22 | #37758 | Link | |
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So at 1080p > 1080p you never use sharpen edges + crispen edges at the same time? |
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6th May 2016, 05:29 | #37759 | Link |
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I hope you don't mind if I steal your description of anti-bloat?
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6th May 2016, 08:19 | #37760 | Link |
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1) Is there consensus if any of the new features (like anti-bloating) is "needed" when only using moderate superres (chroma/luma at 1 or max 2) and no other sharpening? (For luma I use NNEDI3 at 32 or above whenever possible, but for a couple of profiles I've had to resort to Super XBR.)
2) Would you use superres at 1 or 2 for a) SD -> 1080p (mostly good quality DVD rips) and b) 720p -> 1080p? I would think 2 for a) and and 1 for b) and not the other way around, right? Just asking for some quick tips because I have zero hours left in my tweaking quota (says wife) after having spent tens of hours with madVR already, LOL. After upgrading to v0.90.17 I haven't touched any of the settings and things look OK to me with the new settings at default. |
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