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Old 20th January 2008, 17:10   #2721  |  Link
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Good to have you answer questions like these. Saves me some support work...
I have a confession to make here. I do it so you have more time to develop this great tool.
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I have a confession to make here. I do it so you have more time to develop this great tool.
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It works!
Well... When to expect Blu-ray support?
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Well... When to expect Blu-ray support?
Maybe next year...
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Maybe next year...
You did understand i was kidding, right?
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Old 20th January 2008, 20:34   #2726  |  Link
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eac3to v2.15 released

http://madshi.net/eac3to.zip

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* Haali Splitter replaced with internal splitter for EVO VC-1 tracks
* external raw VC-1 tracks can now be muxed directly to Matroska
* timestamps for VC-1 MKV videos don't need to be rewritten, anymore
* some problematic VC-1 movies should mux fine to MKV now (e.g. POTO USA)
* gaps/overlaps in VC-1 track of EVO files are detected and displayed now
* pulldown can be removed from external raw VC-1 tracks now
* pulldown is automatically removed when demuxing EVO VC-1 tracks now
* updated to the latest revision of the libav E-AC3 decoder
* some minor changes and bugfixes
I think handling of VC-1 in EVO files is working pretty well now. For h264/AVC and MPEG2 tracks I'm still using the Haali Media Splitter instead of my own internal splitter right now. As a result timecodes still need to be rewritten for those video tracks. This will change in a future version.

Does anybody have the USA HD DVD of "Phantom of the Opera"? Could you please try whether it can be remuxed to MKV now? With a bit of luck it might work now.

Since the VC-1 remuxing functionality was changed a lot I'd be thankful about some tests. Please check whether it works at all, whether the audio sync is correct and also whether you have any micro stutters or not. After all I'm skipping the timecode rewriting for VC-1 now. I think it should all work, but it needs to be tested.

Due to the many changes, if you want to play safe, please backup the previous eac3to version (the one which you have on your harddisk right now). Just in case there are problems with the new build.
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You did understand i was kidding, right?
Sure. Me, too!
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Old 20th January 2008, 21:50   #2728  |  Link
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Nice work!!!

Checking with Alexander VC-1 HD DVD right now.

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Great update!!
You really should make a page where we could donate to support development. I will be the first in line...

Ok, 117 titles remuxed. But I just got an alarming visit from my brother (he is helping me out). He talked to some guru online that said that some titles have glitches and rainbow frames when remuxed into mkv.

One example that we checked was Ratatouille Blu-ray (AVC). At 40min and 30s there are some strange frames. Looks scambled. When watching the joined m2ts there is no problem.

And I did Million Dollar Baby HD DVD (VC-1) yesterday. It did show the same problem. Is this a mux, codec or splitter problem?

My brother told me he had the same problem on Revolver Blu-ray.
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Ratatouille and Revolver are BD, therefore have no relation to eac3to (yet). I have Million Dollar Baby, so i could try both 2.14 and 2.15 tomorrow.
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Not sure why this happens. Maybe Surcode doesn't like those multiple "." chars in the file name? Try renaming the source file to a simpler name. Also try using "eac3to source.flac dest.wavs" and then start Surcode manually to encode the DTS file. Does Surcode work correctly this way? Maybe your Surcode installation is botched up?
That was the name of the source and destination file. Shortened names and all passed OK in 26 minutes
Now I've got DTS track with no DRC and normalization
Thanks for wonderful application.
BJ

PS. Maybe stupid question: is possible to remove DRC and normaliz. from exists DTS track or I need source audio (DD HD, DTS HD, Flac, wavs etc.)?
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Sounds good. But what happens if the WAV size is bigger than 2GB or bigger than 4GB? Won't oggenc2 stop at 2GB/4GB then when using WAV input?
You are right, oggenc2 stop encoding at 4 GB limit unless we use raw data.

But use

RiffLength (offset 5) = 0xFFFFFF24 (instead 0x00000024)
DataLength (offset 41) = 0xFFFFFF00 (instead 0x00000000)

is always better. (I think)

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First thing i noticed with v2.15:

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C:\Tools>eac3to "C:\Alexander Revisited The Final Cut\Disc 1\HVDVD_TS\Feature_1.EVO"+"C:\Alexander Revisited The Final Cut\Disc 1\HVDVD_TS\Feature_2.EVO" 2: alex.mkv 3: alex.ac3
EVO, 1 video track, 3 audio tracks, 2:06:22
1: Joined EVO file
2: VC-1, 1080p24 /1.001
3: E-AC3, 5.1 channels, 640kbit/s, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB
4: E-AC3, 2.0 channels, 192kbit/s, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB
5: E-AC3, 2.0 channels, 192kbit/s, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB
Extracting secondary video track...
Muxing video to Matroska...
Extracting audio track number 3...
Removing dialog normalization...
Decoding with DirectShow (Nero Audio Decoder 2)...
Disabling DRC for Nero (E-)AC3 decoding...
DirectShow reports 5.1 channels, 24 bits, 48khz
Encoding AC3...
Creating/writing file "alex.ac3"...
What is this secondary thing (it's in bold, but no showing well)?

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Ratatouille and Revolver are BD, therefore have no relation to eac3to (yet). I have Million Dollar Baby, so i could try both 2.14 and 2.15 tomorrow.
I mentioned them because I think this is a splitter problem as it affects both VC-1 and AVC from both Blu-ray and HD DVD

It would be great to know before proceeding with more titles...

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Maybe it's not a splitter problem. Because he just told me that Revolver could be muxed into mkv if video stream and audio stream muxed with gdsmux. But that gave a none searchable file. And it could not be opened with mkvmerge.

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Maybe stupid question: is possible to remove DRC and normaliz. from exists DTS track or I need source audio (DD HD, DTS HD, Flac, wavs etc.)?
DRC and DN are applied only when the track is decoded. If the source of this dts you are talking about was created from a source which had DRC or DN applied when decoded, no it's not possible to remove them. If the source of the dts track is a disc like hd dvd/blu-ray/dvd then you can remove DN (using eac3to) and tell the decoder (that's eac3to job too) not to apply DRC.

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Behind Enemy Lines
The Perfect Storm (bad disk will rerip)
Deer Hunter
Donnie Brasco
Dream Girls
Into the Blue
Legend of Zorro
The Island
The Usual Suspects

are not included as they are not put on the server yet.

Please let me know if you can find any titles that is know to have rainbow frames or glitches when remuxed.
I have watched some titles from start to end. But most just a couple of seconds at 4-5 locations to see that audio is in sync.

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DRC and DN are applied only when the track is decoded. If the source of this dts you are talking about was created from a source which had DRC or DN applied when decoded, no it's not possible to remove them. If the source of the dts track is a disc like hd dvd/blu-ray/dvd then you can remove DN (using eac3to) and tell the decoder (that's eac3to job too) not to apply DRC.
Must I "tell to eac3to" not to apply DRC or is it by default applied to eac3to?
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Must I "tell to eac3to" not to apply DRC or is it by default applied to eac3to?
By default, it does not apply DRC, if it can.

My understanding is when you tick the DRC box, it will apply dynamic range compression (which is probably what you don't want!)

BTW, with 2.15, the -test option seems to crash eac3to...
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Must I "tell to eac3to" not to apply DRC or is it by default applied to eac3to?
Default and only possible thing. eac3to always does it.

There is an option not to remove DN, though.

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