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Old 13th December 2017, 03:07   #47701  |  Link
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The default used to be 400. That is very bright for a SDR monitor, my last SDR calibration was at 103 nits for optimal dark room viewing but I like madVR set to 200 more than 120.
Yeah me too, was a good choice on madshi's part.

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No they do not and you couldn't trust them if they did. Also the brightness setting directly controls this so everyone would have to have the screen set to 100% for it to be accurate
That's a shame, having something dynamic like this that could work with built in ambient light sensors would be nice.
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Old 13th December 2017, 11:29   #47702  |  Link
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What does it mean with MKV 4K HDR movie


D3D11 (10bit)
P010, 10 bit, 4:2:0 (DXVA11)
movie 3840x2160, 16:9
matrix BT.2020 (says upstream)
primaries BT.2020 (says upstream)
HDR 4000 nits, BT.2020 -> DCI-P3
limited range (says upstream)

. that means the movie uses Color Gamut Wide ? and I need to change my TV color gamut to Wide or keep it on Normal ? it is so confusing . when do I need to use Normal and WIDE ?
I have LG OLED C6 TV , and I can't decide what that means. is there simple rule or simple explanation ?

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Old 13th December 2017, 12:10   #47703  |  Link
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I don't use FSE except for 3D, so I only did quick tests but in 4K23 everything played fine (I tested FHD and UHD content) with FSE enabled. I always have a black screen on my PJ when switching refresh rates, so you'll need someone else to confirm that bug.

3D still needs FSE here (it works otherwise but although the PJ reports 1080pFP and MadVR reports 3D, it's only 2D. I know some people don't need FSE even for 3D but here I've never been able to achieve that.

No problem with FSE enabled for 3D, except that I have a dropped frame every 3-5mn as it's not possible to set 1080p23FP separately when creating a custom frame, and for some reason WMC (I use MyMovies with WMC 8.8.1 as a front end) is windowed when I stop playback, but that has nothing to do with MadVR. I only have to maximise the window to make it full screen again.
Thanks, thats really useful information, I was about to have another go at my GTX 1050 but if there are occasions where FSE is needed for NVIDIA cards as well, and you are dropping frames on 3D then this is a no go for me.

My AMD card is now Rock solid with FSE now i've found the bug that was causing my problems, as stated if I drop my desktop to 1080p before I run 3D I have no issues at all, no crashes or frame drops as AMD cards can do 23.976 natively.

HDR also works fine, looks great.

As it stands now i've not had a PC crash or hang in KODI DS or MPC for 24 hours, you have no idea how happy this makes me feel.

NVIDIA users with the black screen issue, do you only get it with 1080p material on 4k screens?, if so its the same buy that causes AMD cards to completely hang the system.
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Old 13th December 2017, 13:41   #47704  |  Link
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Hey there, everyone. I missed it, but how does one take screenshots with madVR?
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Old 13th December 2017, 14:15   #47705  |  Link
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Hey there, everyone. I missed it, but how does one take screenshots with madVR?
cant you just use Print Scr key on your keyboard?
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Old 13th December 2017, 16:03   #47706  |  Link
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Hey there, everyone. I missed it, but how does one take screenshots with madVR?
Use F5 in MPC-BE or MPC-HC. (Also there's a screenshot submenu in MadVR config.)
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Old 13th December 2017, 16:05   #47707  |  Link
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What does it mean with MKV 4K HDR movie


D3D11 (10bit)
P010, 10 bit, 4:2:0 (DXVA11)
movie 3840x2160, 16:9
matrix BT.2020 (says upstream)
primaries BT.2020 (says upstream)
HDR 4000 nits, BT.2020 -> DCI-P3
limited range (says upstream)

. that means the movie uses Color Gamut Wide ? and I need to change my TV color gamut to Wide or keep it on Normal ? it is so confusing . when do I need to use Normal and WIDE ?
I have LG OLED C6 TV , and I can't decide what that means. is there simple rule or simple explanation ?
it depends on what you tell madVR about your display.
with passthrough it is most likely assume your TV will handle BT 2020 and will use that automaticly.
but it all comes down to your settings under calibration


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depends on your video player for MPC-hc is is F5. unlike print screen it should "always" work.
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Old 13th December 2017, 18:19   #47708  |  Link
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it depends on what you tell madVR about your display.
with passthrough it is most likely assume your TV will handle BT 2020 and will use that automaticly.
but it all comes down to your settings under calibration



depends on your video player for MPC-hc is is F5. unlike print screen it should "always" work.

Yes, but I don't know which setting the TV should use.

Color Gamut Normal or Wide ? because the movie is HDR so that mean it should be Normal ? when do I need to use Wide then ?

The question is what is the proper way to use, because the both look different , Wide have more color and Normal doesn't, the question is if it's correct for this
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Old 13th December 2017, 18:54   #47709  |  Link
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i don't know what setting you are using and i don't know how dumb your screen is.

if there is an auto option use it.
or force wide and prey it is assuming BT 2020 input and set the madVR output to bt 2020.

without a colorimeter and some test no ones knows for sure.
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Old 13th December 2017, 19:47   #47710  |  Link
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i don't know what setting you are using and i don't know how dumb your screen is.

if there is an auto option use it.
or force wide and prey it is assuming BT 2020 input and set the madVR output to bt 2020.

without a colorimeter and some test no ones knows for sure.
Normal is Auto on the LG OLEDC6 series

Auto is Auto on the LG OLEDC7 Series

so even if it says DCI-P3 which suppose to be WIDE to always use Normal/Auto ?
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Old 13th December 2017, 20:49   #47711  |  Link
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without a colorimeter give auto a try.

so if the screen is not total dumb it will use wide for HDR and normal for none HDR.
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Old 13th December 2017, 22:36   #47712  |  Link
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Auto seems to work on my C7, it uses Wide for HDR/BT.2020/DCI-P3 and Normal for SDR/BT.709.

I have mine calibrated using Wide, madVR does the conversion of BT.709 to DCI-P3. I use a 3DLUT but if you don't have a meter setting "This display is already calibrated to DCI-P3" and setting the TV to Wide looks very similar.
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Old 13th December 2017, 23:30   #47713  |  Link
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Auto seems to work on my C7, it uses Wide for HDR/BT.2020/DCI-P3 and Normal for SDR/BT.709.

I have mine calibrated using Wide, madVR does the conversion of BT.709 to DCI-P3. I use a 3DLUT but if you don't have a meter setting "This display is already calibrated to DCI-P3" and setting the TV to Wide looks very similar.
(Sorry if this is a bit off-topic) Asmodian, I also have the C7, and I cannot seem to get the SDR 3DLUT's gamma quite right. I have a feeling this is due to ASBL and IR affecting the low end. How do you deal with that? I've been using 10% windows with an all black background, which seems to prevent ABL from kicking in. In DisplayCAL, the only thing I change from madVR defaults is a custom black point of 0.0001 (the lowest possible). Am I missing anything? Do you disable ASBL in the service menu? I'm trying to avoid that.
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I am actually using Calman 2017 (it integrates with madVR very well) but I also need to keep a windowed video playing to keep the TV from going into low power mode. Even with power management disabled and at OLED Brightness at 18/100 it dims in 60sec if the power level does not change enough and there are points in the sequence of patches that don't change power enough for too long. I did do a very long calibration once (25h) and saw image retention from the title bars of the windows for madTPG and Calman but after a pixel refresh overnight my screen was fine.
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How to play 2D as SBS,use Madvr?

How to play 2D as SBS?use Madvr

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Auto seems to work on my C7, it uses Wide for HDR/BT.2020/DCI-P3 and Normal for SDR/BT.709.

I have mine calibrated using Wide, madVR does the conversion of BT.709 to DCI-P3. I use a 3DLUT but if you don't have a meter setting "This display is already calibrated to DCI-P3" and setting the TV to Wide looks very similar.

On the C6 I have only Wide , Extended , Normal. the normal is same as Auto in C7 . so I guess I choose this. checking again with Life of Pi the water looked way too blueish so it was not correct with Wide.

I don't have any calibration device so I can only go with this display is not calibrated and let MadVR HDR passthrough selected. I just wanted to understand what does it mean this line

HDR 4000 nits, BT.2020 -> DCI-P3

It does some kind of conversion ? why it is not just Bt.2020 or DCI-P3 ? why is there arrows pointing to DCI-P3 . I can't understand this.
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BT.2020 is too wide for any display so I assume the BT.2020 YCbCr values are converted to DCI-P3 RGB values.

Measuring the gamut with an i1d3: Wide on the C7 is DCI-P3 (a little smaller than it should be but close), Extended is BT.709 (a little wider than it should be but close), and Auto switches between the two depending on the content.
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I have weird white dots on HDR movie . The Dark Tower 2017 2160p UHD . the white dots location or visibility changes if I go to Windowed full - screen or Windowed mode, they are not in the same location.

What could this be that causing those white dots ?

I have it on more movies, hardly visible , but I can see some white dots.

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Usually white artifacts are caused by bad video memory but other corruption can cause them as well. Decoding errors maybe?
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Usually white artifacts are caused by bad video memory but other corruption can cause them as well. Decoding errors maybe?
I'm sure it's not memory because everything else works fine, games and such. it's just HDR movies , I think this movie specific. for example I don't have issue with Fifty Shades Darker 2017

I tried other HDMI cable, exactly the same all the times the same white spots .
I tried other media player MPC-HC instead Potplayer.
I tried MadVR 0.92.9
I tried DXVA2 copy back instead D3D11
The white dots always on the same place.
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