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22nd March 2013, 02:41 | #18081 | Link |
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What kind of solutions are there in the market for pal users then? Because making a tv refresh at a multiple of 24 is one thing, but what about 25?
Can any displays dynamically change their refresh rate? Because I thought that wasn't possible any more. Sent from my Blade S using Tapatalk 2 |
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My TV, at least, accepts a 24Hz signal and refreshes at 24Hz when receiving said 24Hz signal. By calling it a 60Hz display I just meant it doesn't claim to refresh at anything higher than 60Hz.
Of course modern displays can change their refresh rates on the fly, none of the displays I have cannot. MadVR's refresh rate changer wouldn't be much use if they couldn't. You should be able to run at 25 or 50Hz on some models. It is a limitation when plugged into a PC, if the panel can refresh at 120Hz why not accept a 120Hz signal? If the display is new enough to support HDMI 1.4b and calls itself a 120/240Hz display I don't see why it doesn't support 120Hz input. The hardware in a few pretty cheap Korean monitors supports 2560x1440@120Hz so it cannot be that hard. Last edited by Asmodian; 22nd March 2013 at 03:30. Reason: added quote and response |
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Most TVs sold in Europe support 50Hz/100Hz in addition to the 60Hz/120Hz, however many TVs sold in the US come without 50/100Hz support..
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But I thought if I was to set my tv to 50 Hz, because the panel is at 60Hz you would still see judder, for the same reason as 24 Hz viewed on a 60 Hz display.
Let's not get mixed up here, I'm talking about the output refresh rate, not input. Sent from my Blade S using Tapatalk 2 |
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Can it is time divide a forum discussion of algorithms and discussion of monitors with video cards and frequency of updating?
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You guys do realize that most 60Hz monitors can be fed 48Hz or 50Hz to display exact multiples right? And with ReClock 23.976 is easily sped up to 24fps to match 48Hz exactly. It's not the best solution but it's better than running everything at 60Hz although with FRC that recommendation changes I believe.
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Some that claim to only support 60 Hz can be made to accept other refresh rates using special software but certainly not all. Even my high-end 24WMGX3 only supports 50 Hz via HDMI and even then it clearly isn't natively displayed because there is tearing.
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I have a relatively old display that accepts a 24Hz signal, but only when forced.
When I use it this way, there is clearly something not right. Flickering screen, more judder than the same film at 60Hz. So this leads me to believe that there is processing done by the television from 24>60 and it also made me wonder(although I didn't notice this far) that the same may apply with 50>60. If it's the case most displays support the change, why is it that they offer technology that is suppose to eliminate judder when fed a 24Hz signal when the same displays supposedly natively display 24 Hz and why now do we have 120 Hz+ tv's?? I'm welcome to be proved wrong, but I'm quite sure the ability to accept 24Hz does not equal the actual television refreshing at that rate, but instead it being "converted" to the native refresh rate. This is without taking into consideration the 23.9>24 issue. Sent from my Blade S using Tapatalk 2 |
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