CoreCodec/H.264 Codec "CoreAVC" - Page 41

dimzon · 29th March 2006, 11:18

@BetaBoy
Just a little suggestion about your AVC Encoder

Please keep it CLI application with AVS support and (maybe) x264-compatible command-line arguments

In this case we will add support for it into MeGUI and other tools

tomos · 29th March 2006, 11:29

hmm, i always imagined it would be a vfw encoder to use in vdub etc.

as you can tell, i'm one of those point and click people

Pomyk · 29th March 2006, 11:34

There's a small problem with playback of 120fps avi files with coreavc - it plays too fast. It works normally with libavcodec. I know avi should die, but some people still make them

MatMaul · 29th March 2006, 12:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by BetaBoy

Not sure if I have commented on this.... but we will be bundling the Windows/Linux versions in a future release. Mplayer? Well I dont wanna commnet atm, but more to let you know we are working on it.

and why not in VLC ?

videomixer9 · 29th March 2006, 12:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirber

No problem with that

The solution is in your config file

so thousand of ppl still didn't find the FullySupportSSA/ASS=yes switch and the DoNotFreezeMyFuckingVideoWindowOnPlaybackIfIMoveTheWindowOnwin32=yes switch?

VLC has a GPL only policy, you'll make VLC creators cry using closed source.

And ppl that use h264 encoders via vfw interface and try to put that stuff in avi pls die.
120 fps content also plays sometimes oddly out of sync with WMV encodes here, only with some players though, odd thing. So whatever, try a different splitter and player too maybe.

3ngel · 29th March 2006, 13:22

@BetaBoy
A pheraps silly question : the retail version of AVC Decoder, will come as simple .ax file? Or it will be one those sh***y installer that mess up with my registry and i need to reinstall when i change dir or change OS?

dimzon · 29th March 2006, 13:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by videomixer9

And ppl that use h264 encoders via vfw interface and try to put that stuff in avi pls die.

videomixer9 · 29th March 2006, 17:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3ngel

@BetaBoy
A pheraps silly question : the retail version of AVC Decoder, will come as simple .ax file? Or it will be one those sh***y installer that mess up with my registry and i need to reinstall when i change dir or change OS?

what's so bad about an installer? not anyones problem that you cannot use unattended installer modes or just reregister the ax file that you get after installing, as all filters are the same and have to be registerable via just .ax files.

I doubt it won't come with an installer as many ppl will want one. Too many noobs that don't know what to do with just an .ax file.

I hate people like you just plain for their wannabe leetness. Your messing with my registry bitching seems to totally expose how much of an newbie you are too.

DeathTheSheep · 29th March 2006, 18:37

"And ppl that use h264 encoders via vfw interface and try to put that stuff in avi pls die."

Wishing death on people is hardly civilized behavior. This isn't a flame war between AVI and CLI. They'll release it however they want.

Thank you.

Romario · 29th March 2006, 18:41

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Originally Posted by videomixer9

And ppl that use h264 encoders via vfw interface and try to put that stuff in avi pls die.

I totaly agree with you DeathTheSheep. This is very strange behaviour.

Mods, please give one big warning to member videomixer9.

videomixer9 · 29th March 2006, 18:47

omg pls die DeathTheSheep ... :O (what's with the whining?)

I seriously hope everyone drops VFW support for AVC encoding so we don't get more AVC in AVI, not that hard to use a good container. CLI is nice and versatile and considering there will be a Linux version of the encoder too prolly I hope for no efforts to create VFW interfaces, more important to implement a versatile interface for many more apps on multiple platforms.

It's just sad too see how old fashioned ppl just cannot get over the VFW crap that is as old or even older than Windows 3.0.

3ngel · 29th March 2006, 19:06

Videomixer9, you're totally out of mind...
Watch less a monitor, and more some other real thing...

shon3i · 29th March 2006, 19:46

Wait ppl, BetaBoy will make decision. Maybe him want to make app like Recode.

ChronoCross · 29th March 2006, 20:02

you guys keep this up and you'll all get stiked. As doom9's tollerance level is pretty much 0 when argueing about cli versus vfw.

As for their encoder I doubt they've even started it. But if they take the path of other professional companies working on encoders you won't see a vfw version. everything will be done either through a separate gui or a cli. (ateme, nero, elecard, etc.)

Kostarum Rex Persia · 29th March 2006, 23:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by shon3i

Wait ppl, BetaBoy will make decision. Maybe he want to make app like Recode.

I hope so, application like Nero Recode 2 would be very nice to see.

Regarding videomixer9 strange post, I won't say anything at all.

Sirber · 30th March 2006, 00:38

Why making a GUI when people can make their own?

GmorG McRoth · 30th March 2006, 02:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirber

Why making a GUI when people can make their own?

That depends on how good that GUI whuld be. Beyond that, GUI made by original developer will have all features implemented (or it shuld have). Not to mention that searching for usable home made GUI is sometimes problematic, and since CoreAVC encoder will be commercial product eny customer can expect it to be complete with GUI. ofcourse since there is no program yet its all speculation and we will see what core designers have to offer (hmm by the way do the makers of tomb rider and heimdall2 do not feel offended by using their name? Lets hope there will be no lawsuit).

leowai · 30th March 2006, 04:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kostarum Rex Persia

I hope so, application like Nero Recode 2 would be very nice to see.

As a MeGUI user, I prefer what dimzon suggested here:

Quote:

Originally Posted by dimzon

@BetaBoy
Just a little suggestion about your AVC Encoder

Please keep it CLI application with AVS support and (maybe) x264-compatible command-line arguments

In this case we will add support for it into MeGUI and other tools

ChronoCross · 30th March 2006, 04:51

their trying to sell it. not to make it compatible with open source apps.

breez · 30th March 2006, 10:32

Btw, what kind of payment options will be available? Paypal? Credit card?

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dimzon BeHappy/MeGUI developer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 1,727	Just a little suggestion about your AVC Encoder @BetaBoy Just a little suggestion about your AVC Encoder Please keep it CLI application with AVS support and (maybe) x264-compatible command-line arguments In this case we will add support for it into MeGUI and other tools __________________ BeHappy - AviSynth-based audio transcoding tool Audio encoding via AviSynth On2 VP7 is great in quality but it is unusable for long-term video backup puposes! Sincerely Yours, MCPD/MCTS

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DeathTheSheep <The VFW Sheep of Death> Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Deathly pasture of VFW Posts: 1,149	"And ppl that use h264 encoders via vfw interface and try to put that stuff in avi pls die." Wishing death on people is hardly civilized behavior. This isn't a flame war between AVI and CLI. They'll release it however they want. Thank you. __________________ Recommended all-in-one stop for x264/GCC needs on Windows: Komisar x264 builds!

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shon3i BluRay Maniac Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 2,419	Wait ppl, BetaBoy will make decision. Maybe him want to make app like Recode. Last edited by shon3i; 29th March 2006 at 20:05.

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29th March 2006, 11:29	#802 \| Link
tomos Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: UK Posts: 534	hmm, i always imagined it would be a vfw encoder to use in vdub etc. as you can tell, i'm one of those point and click people

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Pomyk Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 34	There's a small problem with playback of 120fps avi files with coreavc - it plays too fast. It works normally with libavcodec. I know avi should die, but some people still make them

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3ngel Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 457	@BetaBoy A pheraps silly question : the retail version of AVC Decoder, will come as simple .ax file? Or it will be one those sh***y installer that mess up with my registry and i need to reinstall when i change dir or change OS?

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videomixer9 ffdshow fan Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 580	omg pls die DeathTheSheep ... :O (what's with the whining?) I seriously hope everyone drops VFW support for AVC encoding so we don't get more AVC in AVI, not that hard to use a good container. CLI is nice and versatile and considering there will be a Linux version of the encoder too prolly I hope for no efforts to create VFW interfaces, more important to implement a versatile interface for many more apps on multiple platforms. It's just sad too see how old fashioned ppl just cannot get over the VFW crap that is as old or even older than Windows 3.0.

29th March 2006, 19:06	#812 \| Link
3ngel Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 457	Videomixer9, you're totally out of mind... Watch less a monitor, and more some other real thing...

29th March 2006, 20:02	#814 \| Link
ChronoCross Does it really matter? Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 1,542	you guys keep this up and you'll all get stiked. As doom9's tollerance level is pretty much 0 when argueing about cli versus vfw. As for their encoder I doubt they've even started it. But if they take the path of other professional companies working on encoders you won't see a vfw version. everything will be done either through a separate gui or a cli. (ateme, nero, elecard, etc.)

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ChronoCross Does it really matter? Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 1,542	their trying to sell it. not to make it compatible with open source apps.

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breez Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 110	Btw, what kind of payment options will be available? Paypal? Credit card?