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Old 19th January 2014, 02:42   #201  |  Link
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Why two DLLs? I checked dependencies and it seems only libmfxsw32.dll is needed. What other one are you talking about?

I tried to load it directly from a path of my choosing but it failed unaccountably. The error was file not found but it is definitely there. Rather than get bogged down in this, let's move on and possibly revisit it, as you suggest.
Frim Decoder work without Windows system path and without instel SDK instaled.
libmfxsw32.dll is in same folder of Frim path and works correctly
Contact videofan3d for help if possible
Thanks for work neuron2
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Old 19th January 2014, 03:51   #202  |  Link
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Pay attention, frencher! I already solved all that on my own, and as I have said several times, I don't anticipate needing any help.
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Old 19th January 2014, 08:12   #203  |  Link
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I always add "AssumeFPS()" as the last line in the file when I know the source framerate.
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Old 19th January 2014, 10:09   #204  |  Link
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I completed my standalone DGMVCCombine implementing the muxing previously described. The combined files work fine with DGMVCSource(). Later today I will post the DGMVCCombine for you to test, and when it is verified I will integrate it into DGMVCSource(). Right now, I have to sleep for a while.
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Old 19th January 2014, 12:20   #206  |  Link
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Hello Donald,

tried your beta3 which can load the included MVC example, but when tying to load a MVC file created by the Panasonic Z10000 3D Camcorder or JVC TD1 one gets only garbage.

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Old 19th January 2014, 12:58   #207  |  Link
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Hello Donald,

tried your beta3 which can load the included MVC example, but when tying to load a MVC file created by the Panasonic Z10000 3D Camcorder or JVC TD1 one gets only garbage.

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Did you demux those Panny files to elementary streams (using e.g. eac3to) and merged base (_L.h264) and dependent view (_R.h264) to combined stream using MVCCombine first ?
Then it should work...
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Old 19th January 2014, 13:05   #208  |  Link
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I don't know the format of your file, but it is probably not a "combined AVC+MVC" stream in the correct format. You should try to demux the two video streams, and combine them with MVCCombine.exe or, when it will be available, with DGMVCCombine.
[EDIT: videofan3d has posted his reply when I was writing mine.]

@Neuron2:
Just finished testing your latest beta. AFAIK, it works perfectly, and the problem of the directory containing libmfxsw32.dll seems to be fixed. I appreciate also the red message when the intel DLL cannot be loaded. Perfect! :-)
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Old 19th January 2014, 13:06   #209  |  Link
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Well does it really make sense to first demux an original MVC file, then combine them again to one new MVC file just be be able to load them with AviSynth?
My goal is to be able to load original 3D MVC files from different 3D camcorders to be able to do a stereoscopic deshaking - this should be possible with the aid of a AVS file - without demixing and joining them again - what if you need to do this with 100 or even 1000 files?

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Well does it really make sense to first demux an original MVC file, then combine them again to one new MVC file just be be able to load them with AviSynth?
My goal is to be able to load original 3D MVC files from different 3D camcorders to be able to do a stereoscopic deshaking - this should be possible with the aid of a AVS file - without demixing and joining them again - what if you need to do this with 100 or even 1000 files?

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Obviously yes :-)
But it is more complicated structured task.... maybe sometime in the future somebody will white such great plugin to Avisynth
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@WBL:
It's a problem, I agree, but it is due to the intel decoder, that accepts only the AVC+MVC combined stream in a very specific format. If you re-read this thread, you'll see that DGMVCDecode is the first step to solve that problem, and Donald should release it soon. When it will be carefully tested (by us, and why not by you), Donald will integrate it in his DGMVCSource filter, and at that time, hopefully, you'll be able to load the elementary streams directly. It will still be necessary to demux them, but not to combine them. Later, perhaps there will be a solution to load directly a MPLS or SSIF file from a 3D BD. And perhaps that will work with your files too.
[EDIT: Again, videofan3d was faster than me.]
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really? So even if the new joined MVC cannot be loaded by any 3D capable NLE or even with StereoscopicPlayer which uses the CoreCodec MVC decoder? I dont see the benefit of such an intermediate file format epecially if one cannot relaod it with other software which can do decode original MVC files from 3D camcorders...

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When it will be carefully tested (by us, and why not by you)
I could do such tests - thats no problem

I see this is a 'problem' of the intel decoder

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really? So even if the new joined MVC cannot be loaded by any 3D capable NLE or even with StereoscopicPlayer which uses the CoreCodec MVC decoder? I dont see the benefit of such an intermediate file format epecially if one cannot relaod it with other software which can do decode original MVC files from 3D camcorders...

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I meant : it would be great if we would have plugin to Avisynth which could load MVC from Panny directly, but at this moment we don't have it - so we have to be patient until somebody smart will write it. :-)
So far we have to work in steps:
- demux MVC to L, R, audio
- process separately
- multiplex back to MVC (thanks to tsMuxer 3D we finally can do it!)

@Werner,
I'm also owner of Panny Z10000 (and I'm using some workflow, which is not simple, but working)
If you are interested, we can discuss about processing in some separate thread, or offline.
(as this thread is for Avisynth MVCSource() specifically)

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Any chance DGMVCSource() will evolve at some point so that it will read SSIF files directly?
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Any chance DGMVCSource() will evolve at some point so that it will read SSIF files directly?
It's on Donald's to-do list.
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I have completed the initial separate stream support. There is a small bug in that the final frame is corrupted. I am fixing that. In the meantime, can you please test this with your separated base/dependent streams and report any failures. The ZIP also now includes the separated streams corresponding to combined.264. I have tested successfully with these files only.

My combiner is rather elegant (only 160 lines of code), if I may say so , as you will see when I release the source code. But I may not yet have covered all the NALU handling rules that your files may require. So feedback will be appreciated. Thank you.

http://neuron2.net/misc/dgmvcsource_b4.zip

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I have completed the initial separate stream support. There is a small bug in that the final frame is corrupted. I am fixing that. In the meantime, can you please test this with your separated base/dependent streams and report any failures. The ZIP also now includes the separated streams corresponding to combined.264. I have tested successfully with these files only.

My combiner is rather elegant (only 160 lines of code), if I may say so , as you will see when I release the source code. But I may not yet have covered all the NALU handling rules that your files may require. So feedback will be appreciated. Thank you.

http://neuron2.net/misc/dgmvcsource_b4.zip
I have made a first test, it works very well for me
Thanks Donald !!

Edit : how can I test for NALU handling rules not covered ?
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I have made a first test, it works very well for me.
Great. Thanks for your testing.

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Edit : how can I test for NALU handling rules not covered ?
Basically just test different source files. I pass along only a subset of NALU types to the decoder:

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I don't know if there are any cases where I should pass along any other NALU types that may be in the source streams.
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What should be the result if NALU doesn't exist ? Black screen ? Artifact ? No dependent view ?
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