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23rd May 2002, 17:32 | #1 | Link |
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Internet Movie downloads typical encoding method?
Recently got DSL working and downloaded Scary Movie and NOt another Teen movie.
it seems like alot of internet movie d/ls are like 2 files around 160megs each. about 340megs for the entire movie. My questions is how do they encodes those movies to such small file size and yet maintain a acceptable quality? can anyone tell me the specfics? Video: codec, Bitrate, setting, resolutions, single or 2 pass encoding? audio: codec, bitrate, setting? I have some old movies and shows in VHS that I want to capture and encode. It would be great to be able to get it to the small filesize and ok quality of what I saw in those movie downloads. thanks in advance.
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yupe kazaa, for me the relatively small size of the movie is a factor I'm willing to take for the quality of the audio/video in the movie.
(of course this is for stuff that I don't mind but for movies I really care about I would do high bitrate encoding)
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Use a low resolution. And I mean very low.
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24th May 2002, 00:44 | #7 | Link |
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geniv, unfortunately the better and cleaner your source material, the lower the bitrate you can use. If you have some old tv shows captured from VHS, you're going to have a harder time encoding them at acceptable quality with a very small bitrate.
Is SMR still doing these small rips? None of them around in Direct Connect... (more and more 1.1 GB movies there, on whatever media that may fit...) |
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Once I also made a mistake
I used to use Kazaa to find movies, but once I downloaded the one from Walt Disney (Atlantis) and it was good size so I thought that I could give it a try.
But when I played it They had encoded it like it was 4:3 when it was 16:9 and well, you could only see the central part of the movie. From that day on I promised never to download anything else and did it myself. I hope everyone that thinks that really small sizes are ok learn from my mistakes. PS: Sorry for my English. |
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True what u said about a good source making a good smallbitrate encode.
damn, this encoding business is talking alot of my time. and it's like an artform that u have to try alot to get a feel of the codecs etc.. and u get better overtime
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SMR/nAVI is basically MSMPEG4V3 (or V2 - i cant remember atm) unlocked (in laymens terms an ASF file with an AVI extension), with WMA audio (not v7 or v8 of course ) All encodes of it would be CBR (maybe now they use nandub with it? lol) so it's all 1-pass crap. So how do they wreck a decent looking movie into a pile of crap? Well the first thing you should know is that they're all re-encodes. The second thing is that they keep the resolution as low as possible to increase compressablility (less detail -> less bits needed). I suppose it's ok watching them if you have cateracts in both eyes, but I don't and I'd rather download a 3cd *cough*Centropy*Centropy* release 5 days before a crappy SMR re-encode of it.
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Not having a broadband connection - I have no access to the films - but I know that a friend of mine has spent a long time downloading films via Broadband only to find that it was a muppet in the back of the cinema with a cam-corder!!!!!
Its a shame you can't preview before download.
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Just download a bit, copy this part to another place while the downloading continues, rebuild the index of the copied piece with either VDub or DivFix, then watch it. |
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