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Old 2nd February 2004, 20:46   #541  |  Link
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nope, RealAnime use jobfile since 1.2x IIRC. The problem still exist...
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Old 2nd February 2004, 20:56   #542  |  Link
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oh yes so i know the problem

it's the format of jobfile which is the same of audience files....

XML !!!!!

some keywords to not be used in it : & for exemple

bad luck...lol

oh avec the accents...ok there's no accents in english...it's not my fault if it's a limited language ;-)
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Old 2nd February 2004, 21:28   #543  |  Link
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the easiest fix would be to rename files prior encoding. hum... something I could do
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Old 12th February 2004, 20:26   #544  |  Link
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Even better, rename file to a generic name during encoding, and give back its original name after the encode

Just a thought, I don't know at all if it's hard to code
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Old 13th February 2004, 18:06   #545  |  Link
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good idea

btw i add the possibility to demux ra10 (aac inside) to aac file

just need mp4creator to create ipod m4a file....
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I read somewhere the following line of text:

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real has given us (*) some funding and is working on integrating the vorbis and theora in their Helix player.
(*) refers to the xiph people.

I'm a bit puzzled about the meaning of this. Does that mean that it will be possible to mux rv and ogg, and play it?

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Old 16th February 2004, 15:42   #547  |  Link
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you can encode ogg with producer....
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Is it just me or ist it still impossible to get to the binaries and the producer documentation on helixcommunity.org? I'd like to read up on the 1 pass quality mode but I don't have a producer distor on the box.
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see rv10 elysium thread...:-(((

sniff sniff
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Old 22nd February 2004, 11:51   #550  |  Link
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Hi!

I am backing up some of my dvds on dvd-r. So i don't require filesize prediction for all of them. since it suffices to restrict the fielsize of the last file on a disc.

What I want to do with the producer should be roughly equivalent to a single pass constant quant 2 (standard mpeg matrix) encode with some b-frames in xvid etc. The most similar encoding mode in producer seems to be "constant quality", which appears e.g. in AutoRV9 and Realbatch etc. However, is not present in the producer docs. So how would I do it? And, which setting would be _roughly_ equivalent to the settings mentioned above in xvid?

TIA, kilg0r3.

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lol

sometimes i shutdown my computer.. windaube need some reboot to work correctly ;-))

and my pc is also my tv so...

btw i'm not a geek ;-))
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kilg0r3: Maybe the reason you did not find constant quality in the docs is that it is called vbrQuality. In any case, here is an audience snippet showing what you need in the <videoStream> section:

<videoStream>
<pluginName type="string">rn-videocodec-realvideo</pluginName>
<codecName type="string">rv10</codecName>
<encodingComplexity type="string">high</encodingComplexity>
<encodingType type="string">vbrQuality</encodingType>
<quality type="uint">85</quality>

<maxStartupLatency type="double">60</maxStartupLatency>
<maxFrameRate type="double">30</maxFrameRate>
<maxKeyFrameInterval type="double">10</maxKeyFrameInterval>
<enableLossProtection type="bool">false</enableLossProtection>
</videoStream>

In this case, avgBitrate is ignored, but remember to set maxBitrate to a very large value (9999999999) so it does not affect the constant quality.

The settings in RealVideo that approximate the ones you mention for XviD, would be what I use for the 1st (reference) pass in the new 2-pass curve compression scheme, that is quantizers 6 and 10. The quality level that corresponds to this is 85.

My computer case is always closed.. What you see is the passive VGA heatsink sticking out. I wanted to make it as silent as possible, and installed a passive heatsink on the video card, i.e. one without a fan. This is very large, and did not fit inside the XPC (small form factor PC), so I had to make a hole in the case for it
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helixcommunity.org update

There is finally a separate Helix DNA Codecs section in the file sharing section of the 'distribution' project on helixcommunity.org. This is where I will make available previews, updates, fixes, etc. Note that you need to sign up and agree to the binary EULA to have access to these. If you already have an account, you need to reset your password (since we moved the site to a completely new structure). Follow instructions on the site. There is also a convenient link to subscribe to be notified of any new updates

Currently, the following files are available:
  • RealVideo 10 'Elysian'
  • HE-AAC (racp) fix for RealPlayer 10 Beta
  • rmeditor update for raac and racp
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I encoded a sample clip in order to compare it to an xvid clip (fixed quant 2 etc.). Well, it was about three times larger than the xvid file. Why? I need only a few words to explain: ffdshow with avih's noise algo at 32. How could I possibly have known that the helix producer uses directshow !

Anyway, thank you Karl, for the snippet.

BTW: Which switch of producer gives me an fps indication during the encode?
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Is it just me or ist it still impossible to get to the binaries and the producer documentation on helixcommunity.org? I'd like to read up on the 1 pass quality mode but I don't have a producer distor on the box.
All the binaries incl Helix Producer 10 Preview (which includes documentation) are now back online:

Helix Binary Downloads : Binary file distribution (Codec Previews, Updates, Fixes, Producer Apps & SDK, Server)

Re FPS in Producer: I am afraid this is still a feature on the TODO list.
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euhh i try using ativeX dll

when i show the versionstring i got 9.2.0.0...are you sure the zip is those of producer10sdk??

btw i can't startjob....

i filed jobfilename value but the startjob always crash...but the jobfile is good.. producer.exe launch it...
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There was a bug for a while regarding the version returned by GetVersionString. This was fixed but probably not in the build you have. I suggest you get the 10.0 preview SDK at either of the following locations:
https://helixcommunity.org/beula/download/

Or Here:
http://forms.helixcommunity.org/heli...sdk/index.html

Regarding the StartJob, I'm not sure what is wrong. I suggest you catch the error (On Error with VB6 or Catch with vb.net) and see what the error message is. If that does not give you any clues, send me a code snippet to stevemc@real.com and I'll see if I can find anything.
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i dwld the zip today but i will try again...
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Hmmm. Make sure you get the Producer 10 preview version.

I forget when we fixed that version string issue - maybe it was after the 10.0 preview build was released. Rest assured its fixed though.

Let's still try to figure out your crasher issue.
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Would be nice now to have our own forum for RealVideo / Real Audio, since it's popularity gained a lot and is a lot discussed.
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