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- settings files here; when everything is fine, jinc is used for resizing; when it's not fine, DXVA is used for resizing - screenshots here, for how it looks when DXVA resizing is used, in windowed and fullscreen modes, because of deinterlacing performed by madVR: - screenshots here, for how it looks when DXVA resizing is used, in windowed and fullscreen modes, deinterlacing not performed by madVR but by the decoder itself (in order to show that it's not the deinterlacing that's causing this, but the DXVA resizing): Quote:
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I can't think of many consumer displays, CRT or not, which would exceed 400 nits brightness. Quote:
24p would be the closest thing to the "native rate" if you're going to use ReClock or similar. Last edited by 6233638; 15th December 2015 at 23:17. |
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I've just never seen "23,976 Hz" or "23 Hz" in the Windows' refresh rate pull-down list. Maybe because I never connected LCD/Plasma TV to the video card.
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[QUOTE=6233638;1749987]Set it to 400 (lowest) for now. There's no way it will even be approaching that. It's almost certainly <100 nits, and very likely <50.
I can't think of many consumer displays, CRT or not, which would exceed 400 nits brightness. Interesting will do some more testing tonight. Thanks
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by watching a movie at 23p. is kind of complicated and on the other side very easy. if you know how proper 23/24p looks it is very easy to see if a screen is doing a 3:2 cadence with the image. if you are used to this cadence by watching broadcast than you may not notice this.
with other word i use my eyes. they test this: http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/by-...sung?uxtv=86de nearly all cheaper ones fail this simple test. if the panel isn't 120 hz they usually doing a 3:2 cadence. Quote:
and by interlaced it most likely means 50 field with 25i and by sending 25 progressive images to the device and flag them intelraced nothing is happening to them they are just repeated if the deinterlacer is of normal quality. i didn't even know there is a spec for 24i. crimson removed the refreshrate selection. in the past there where more options than windows showed but AMD doesn't care i guess. this driver... btw. this is leaving the topic of display mode if you have questions about this general HTPC stuff feel free to ask in a new thread i try to answer them. |
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Yes but if you do not want to resample the audio you need 23.976 Hz.
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for the new version, looking forward messing with "thin edges" together with double SR.
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At least it comes with an option to output >8bit FWIR which 13.12 lacks badly and no more kludgy CRU needed in extreme cases from what you're saying, 'bout time. Now eagerly awaiting new AMD GPU's and SuperSampling SR in mVR Having chroma SR updated with the same algo as luma SR would be darn sweet too if any possible but I guess that's already on madshi's list somewhere so I'll sit tight Last edited by leeperry; 16th December 2015 at 08:01. |
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And with 25 fps PAL to remove the speedup using Reclock, the correct tags are "deint=Film frameRate=24p"? Or maybe just "frameRate=24p" if it's flagged as progressive and no deinterlacing/IVTC is needed? Or should this also be tagged 23.976? (I can't use the global setting for PAL speedup in madVR because I've got some native 25p videos, which would get screwed up.) Last edited by Uoppi; 16th December 2015 at 14:10. |
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FWIW, I've never seen it have a problem with HD 1080i60 3:2 content. |
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Edit: Here's a sample. Enable deinterlacing and watch. Last edited by Stereodude; 17th December 2015 at 05:13. |
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Can someone tell if there is any difference at all between choosing "disable calibration controls for this display" and "this display is already calibrated?" I have one display that had calibration controls disabled. Setting it to "this display is already calibrated" seemed to change the picture slightly, even though I expected no change. I thought the gamma might be different. No other checkboxes are checked.
Are the same gamma ramps used in both cases? The difference could be in my head.
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I believe madVR does some extra gamma processing in the latter case, on the theory that if your display isn't calibrated, it's probably not worth bothering. I asked madshi once, but it's been a while so I may be misremembering.
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I've enabled it on my end and it does make a difference. My monitor is SRGB, but I've set it to 709 in the list and DVD content which uses a different colorspace is different with it on/off. Not really sure if it's supposed to be on or not. It does take some of the redness out of the image though for SD content. Last edited by AngelGraves13; 17th December 2015 at 08:17. |
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the disc has a "Scan order : 2:3 Pulldown" flag the disc is most likely soft telecine and there is simply nothing to do with the stream. and the next strange thing is the VFR flag and the missing matrix and stuff like this. so by default madVR isn't asked to deinterlace and if it doesn't use any deinterlacing everything is fine. |
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And your point? Not all DVDs are flagged correctly, or will indicate to the decoder and madVR what they really are.
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Admittedly I don't watch a lot of DVDs. It's nearly all Blu-ray and OTA ATSC HDTV. However, recently I started watching Castle, which isn't on Blu-ray, so I've now got a fair number of DVDs under my belt. I think I've seen 3 times so far up through S05E20 or so where the IVTC algorithm got confused. I'm not about to disable it.
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not sure if madVR is ignoring repeate flags or things like this but the IVTC algo still sees the 3:2 pattern that's not present when deinterlaced or played progressive. the output is already 23p the "only" issue is that madVR isn't switching to 23p and stays at 60 hz because source filter says it is 29p. don't get me wrong madVR IVTC shouldn't fail in this case but this file is not a typical DVD. i guess the muxer did something to it but this is just a guess. there are still bugs with this sample SM is not working properly it is triggered at 23 hz. |
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