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5th August 2003, 23:23 | #22 | Link |
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hi,
>Also got some installation errors when doing AutoDub install, mscomctl.ocx not modifiable as well as one other. i will update and change the installer to avoid such problems. try to kill all useless task before start the installer. PS: Out of topic : where can i see your counterstrike video ? i like this game and i have made some video (only kill using knife) and i am interested to see yours Bye.
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5th August 2003, 23:48 | #23 | Link |
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Oh, I see. It's a game! Sorry.... I don't play games!
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5th August 2003, 23:49 | #24 | Link |
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Unfortunately it's not complete and it most likely never will be as I can never set aside the time to do all the transitions and effects I want to include, let alone go through hundreds of demos to find the best shots . If I ever finish I'll post a link in here. There is a good chance I may be using the newest wmv9VCM instead of RV9 just because of the idiotic CS community and their innability to do something as difficult as installing Real One and MPC.
edit: Is there any way to open rmvb files and look at them on a frame by frame basis? I usually do this with Vdub but of course it doesn't have the capability, Helix Producer Plus maybe? I would like to resize the video to 1280*1024 just for examination purposes, is this also possible? Last edited by Demi9OD; 5th August 2003 at 23:56. |
5th August 2003, 23:57 | #25 | Link |
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Like I say. Have a look at the KVCD.net web site. It's a real eye opener!
Some users are quoting 120mins of VBR Mpeg1 on a 700MB CD-R which is VCD compliant (on the newer players anyway). It does make very interesting reading and the video only tests of Red Planet are quite impressive!
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6th August 2003, 02:23 | #28 | Link |
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RV9 @ 600kbps would me ok...
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6th August 2003, 02:34 | #29 | Link |
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You have no idea about this content... let me post a quick sample at 2000kb/s and you tell me it can be done at 600
My website is down right now, I'll get a sample up for you guys sometime tomorrow. Last edited by Demi9OD; 6th August 2003 at 03:14. |
7th August 2003, 00:07 | #31 | Link |
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encoderComplexity
In Producer Milestone 4 (and 5), the recommended encoderComplexity is 80. The Producer documentation was actually a little mistake. 85 will, however, provide the best possible quality, and maybe a little higher than 80, but will be rather noticably slower. In the next Producer version, 85 will be the same as the current 80, to avoid having to change the documentation and the new 'very-high' encodingComplexity setting, and I will move the current 85 to 90.
Still confused, just wait until the next episode... In any case, using 85 with Milestone 4 works just fine, and is the best possible quality, but very very close to 80 and slower to encode.
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7th August 2003, 01:31 | #32 | Link |
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Well, I've examined very carefully all clips in this comparison (I actually re-encoded this clip using same settings since I have this trailer too) I went frame by frame comparing both clips). And I think that sagittaire have used adaptive filtering script for this comparison (this is why BTW WMV9 clip is not exactly shines IMO) my clip came out significantly better quality and also 170k smaller then sagittaire's clip (also very bitrate accurate too,- 570kbps unlike sagittaire's 580kbps) ^^ as reported by Gspot :---\
I think that use of any kind of filters is unacceptable for such comparison and I sincerely hope that he won't use any in his next comparison. |
7th August 2003, 08:57 | #33 | Link |
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Not avanced script but very simple script ... for all codecs ... thus the source is the same one for all the codecs ...
Script Encodage Code:
source=Mpeg2Source("D:\Mes dossiers\B.A\Harry Potter\azerty.d2v") source=Crop(source,12,76,-12,-76) source=BicubicResize(source,576,240,0,0.6) source=Convolution3D(source,0,3,4,3,4,3,0) source=ConvertToYUY2(source) return source Code:
# --> Video Opening <-- source=Mpeg2Source("D:\Mes dossiers\B.A\Harry Potter\azerty.d2v") source=Crop(source,12,76,-12,-76) source=BicubicResize(source,576,240,0,0.6) source=Convolution3D(source,0,3,4,3,4,3,0) source=ConvertToYUY2(source) video=AviSource("D:\Mes dossiers\B.A\Harry Potter\WMV9-570.avi") video=ConvertToYUY2(video) # --> PSNR analysis <-- Compare(video,source,"","WMV9-570.txt") ConvertToYUY2 because "Compare" wants same entry and YV12 are not compatible ...
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There is a Dshow Filter for WMV9? Perhaps I'm stupid but I didn't find any information saying that there is one. I only found posts saying there there does not exist such a filter.
I have WMP9 installed (not using it) but WMV9 AVI files doesn't play when playing without WMV9VCM installed (not in Zoomplayer and not in WMP9). When installing WMV9VCM I can play it; but it is not a direct show filter but simply the VCM wrapper. Without the WMV9VCM I can play WMV9 files only in MPC; but it is not using a direct show filter. MPC accesses the newer DMO interface... So where can I get a dshow filter? BTW: Am I the only one who's getting jerky playback with WMV9 with MPC? Processor is a XP1700+. That should not be the reason, is it? Last edited by Ewi; 8th August 2003 at 10:20. |
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I'll tell you what I (and some others) found. On my win2k machine, with only wmp 6.4 installed (no newer player), I installed the wmv9 vcm. I then tried to play a wmv9 video file in wmp 6.4, and the picture looked horrible! Cloudy, blurry, fuzzy, whatever, it looked real bad, but if I loaded the same video file in virtualdub, it would look perfect. I then read on a forum (I think this one) that you won't get good playback unless the wmp 9 series player is installed, even if the vcm is installed. After I installed wmp 9 series player, the playback did not have any blurry/cloudy/fuzzy problems (no matter what player I used).
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8th August 2003, 11:38 | #38 | Link |
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midiguy: We are indeed watching the same clip. Look at the mountain side in front of the helicopter at the start of the helicopter section near the beginning of the film. Also look at the Grey-haired man's face when he puts on his glasses then looks to the right, specifically at his dimple. His face looks clean shaven in the wmv9 but looks 5 o'clock shadowy in the XviD. If you look at the front of the TVR Tuscan at the beginning of the clip the wmv9 loses the detail in the different levels of light on the bonnet, whereas if you look at the rv9 it is preserved very well.
As for the explosion, I agree, the rv9 does look more "washed out" than the wmv9, but not by much, it happens quite quickly and the wmv9 exhibits some blocking artifacts on that scene also. I would say that wmv9 is producing an interesting codec that just doesn't suit my tastes. It doesn't preserve the detail of XviD, but then it has NOWHERE near as much blocking (only on VERY high motion sections). Also RV9 has sharper lines and preserves more detail (though not as much as XviD). Each to their own. Maybe I was a little harsh when saying the image was fuzzy as hell... it's only on some bits. (Also look at the smokey background when they are picking up the guns). I think wmv9 performs awesomely well on extremely high res, high bitrate and high frame rate encodes. I look at some 1280x1024, 100fps encodes (and no, they wouldn't play back smoothly on my measley athlon xp 1600+ ) and they looked FANTASTIC. Thanks. PS - WARP is going to rule! |
8th August 2003, 13:06 | #39 | Link |
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Yes the WMV9 is the most powerfull codec in high resolution/bitrate (test PSNR, SSIM, VQM and visual test) and it's a very good codec in low bitrate too ...
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9th August 2003, 00:31 | #40 | Link |
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I dunno, to me, XviD does preserve the most details, but there are blocks everywhere. In every instance when I compared rv9 to wmv9 (both in playing the videos and going frame by frame) wmv9 was always more detailed. When comparing wmv9 to Manihi, they were tied in some instances (in terms of details) and in some instances wmv9 was more detailed.. (not to mention that Manihi had significantly more macro blocks). But it seems that all the codecs had the potential to do better here.. was the vob a very bad/noisy source? Maybe using those filters wasn't fair?
Also, I honestly think that there are some unresolved issues when playing back a file encoded with the wmv9 vcm. I have heard many accounts where the video can look really blurred for some people and really detailed for other people. Maybe we should start a thread and test this out and see if we can find a problem..
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