Getting Rid of Movie Intros Guide

2COOL · 19th January 2003, 00:27

Getting Rid of Movie Intros Guide

Soooo,here's the scenario. You have company logos and other crap embedded in your first chapter, prior to your movie actually starts? You find that bothersome and you want to bypass them. Sometimes, these menu intros don't even reside in their own cells. Here's a sure way of getting the accurate start entry point so that when you press Play, it starts playing the movie. I take no credit for this method. To the best of my knowledge, credits should go to VidHack.

NOTE: This procedure will NOT strip your menu-intros out. It is used to set a new starting entry point on when actual movie begins.

Courtesy of 2CL

Tools I used:
IFOedit 0.95
DVD2AVI 1.76 & VOBrator 0.2 Beta.
Wordpad or Text Editor
Scientific Calculator (Windows or personal)

NOTE: This guide is in assumption that your movie (widescreen or fullscreen) resides in VTS_01_*. Substitute VTS_01_* your actual titleset, VTS_*_* in this guide if it's not.
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1. Open VTS_01_1.vob with DVD2AVI.
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2. Delete all other following VOBs from File list. We only need to keep VTS_01_1.VOB.
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3. Movie, with no sound, will appear in viewing area. Dragging the bottom slide bar and using the < and > buttons for fine tuning, get to a black part that is just before the movie actually starts. When you get that spot you want, press the “[” button located at bottom right. This sets the movie start point.
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4. Save Project to your movie folder as filename “no intro”. After save is done, you will have a D2V and AC3 file present.
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5. Close DVD2AVI.
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6. Open Wordpad or a text editor. With “File of types” dropdown menu set to “All documents (*.*)”, open “no intro.d2v”.
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7. Find and view this line: Location=0,A,0,B. This is just an example. The second position, represented by "A", zero is your start hex value and the fourth position, "B", is your end hex value. Positions 1 and 3 are normally zeroes.

Since we are just dealing with the menu-intros, write down your start value.
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8. Open up your Scientific Calculator in Windows and select Hex (hexadecimal) mode.
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9. Input your start value you wrote down.
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10. Switch to dec (decimal) mode and the value changes.
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11. Write this number down and close calculator.
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12. Using IFOedit 0,95, go to VTS_01_0.IFO/VTS_PGCITI/VTS_PGC_1/Cell Playback section.

Normally, the movie is located in VTS_PGC_1. In Cell 1 section, your entry start points is normally a value of 0. Change that value to the value you wrote down in step 11. Do this by double-left clicking on line.
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13. Save VTS_01_0.IFO
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14. Get VTS Sectors. I do it out of habit.
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15. Preview and test.
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This method is also used in cutting credits out. Refer to my "Signs" cheat sheets, steps 14 to 30, for guidance. Here's the link. Signs

timewaster · 20th January 2003, 04:47

I just tried this and when I played back the move from IFOEdit, it freezes. Anyone else tried this and had success?

timewaster · 20th January 2003, 04:50

After splitting about a boy, i tried to make disc2 start by playing the movie instead of the menu. I did this by changing the precommand to jumpto titleset 1, title1, rootmenu, but it still plays the menu.
Anyone know how to fix this?

htc10825 · 25th February 2003, 14:24

@timewaster
dont waster your time, just use InstantCopy 7.0 to shrink the movie to 1 disc. Make your life easier.

htc10825 · 25th February 2003, 14:37

@2CooL
instead of the dvd2avi etc. way, just double click on the line containing "cell 1" in VTS_01_0.IFO root pannel of IfoEdit. You'll see a preview window, use the slide bar to navigation to the real movie starting point. Get the sector address displayed above the preview picture. Then go on with your guide step 12.

So the steps 1. -11. can be simplifed to ONE step.

2CooL, you are very cool. But keep on good working!
EDIT: I've deleted some words(in above line) which someone was not amused with it.

2COOL · 25th February 2003, 14:42

Quote:

Originally posted by timewaster
After splitting about a boy, i tried to make disc2 start by playing the movie instead of the menu. I did this by changing the precommand to jumpto titleset 1, title1, rootmenu, but it still plays the menu.
Anyone know how to fix this?

Don't do a (JumpSS_VTSM) Jump to Titleset Menu.

You'll just get your menu again. Do a (Jump_TT) Jump to Title and make your value "1". I'm assuming your movie is in Titleset 1. This will play your movie first.

2COOL · 25th February 2003, 15:23

[EDITED]

htc10825 · 25th February 2003, 18:48

I found the nick funny so made joke with it. It is nothing evil. If you feel it that "like a flame towards my well-being" so sorry for it and I'll deleted it. But you've ignored that I appreciated your good works a lot in the two previours posts. How do you explain it?
If someone makes a trivial thing so big and quote the forum rulez etc. as answer at once ... I would say it is not the best proof of coolness.
We do discuss here "just for fun" so let's keep on discovering more hidden secrets of IfoEdit that were left by Derrow.

2COOL · 25th February 2003, 23:24

Quote:

Originally posted by htc10825
But you've ignored that I appreciated your good works a lot in the two previours posts. How do you explain it?.

@htc10825

Don't worry about it.

I was totally dead tired last night to remember every person who gave a nice reply to me. My apologies. Got some sleep. I'm really a nice person so again, thanks for the tip.

I'm always open for suggestions.

TomBrooklyn · 21st November 2005, 05:26

Hi 2Cool,
I want to remove the FBI and copyright stuff. I ripped with DeCrypter in File Mode. I open the file with IfoEdit. All I see are line of text. I can't tell what is what. How am I supposed to know what to delete? Thanks.

I press DVD Preview and a pop up says I need mpeg2 decoder. I thought I had one of them installed somewhere on my computer already. I can view DVDs in Shrink or in VLC media player. What do I have to do to view dvd in ifoedit so I can tell what I want to remove?

jeanl · 21st November 2005, 08:12

TomBrooklyn
There are much better tools than IFOEdit available now to do that kind of stuff:
- Vobblanker (check out the guides here)
- PgcEdit (guides here and these two to do exactly what you want...

jeanl

TomBrooklyn · 21st November 2005, 11:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanl

Vobblanker (check out the guides here)

Thanks for the links jeanl. I'm looking at these guides. But they assume the reader has a considerable amount of previous knowledge. They're filled with technical terms and acronyms I dont' even understand.

For instance, right off the bat there are the two guide titles, one for blanking and one for cutting, but there is no description of what 'blanking' and 'cutting 'mean.' For the moment, I am assuming they mean the common definition of the words and that blanking means you won't see the section but is is not removed, and cutting mean the section is removed.

Then for instance, check out this second sentance from the guide on blanking:

"Change post into precomm (Safely): Change postcommands into recommends when blanking titles. Safely means do it only if there aren’t cell commands in the PGC."

I don't know what a postcommand or pre command is. I think I know what a title is from seeing them in DVD Shrink. I don't know what a cell command or PGC are.

All I want to do is cut out some parts of the movie that I don't want to see.

Any more basic help would be much appreciated. Thanks.

Dimad · 21st November 2005, 12:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by TomBrooklyn

All I want to do is cut out some parts of the movie that I don't want to see. Is there a guide that a normal intelligent person with little or no prior knowledge of DVD copying can understand? [/rant]

Any basic help would be much appreciated. For starters, do I want to cut or blank? Thanks.

Check this one out: http://www.dimadsoft.com/dvdremake/ud_dg_04.php

laserfan · 21st November 2005, 16:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by TomBrooklyn

...All I want to do is cut out some parts of the movie that I don't want to see...

You are asking for a freeware program that makes this Trivial to do, and there just ain't none, sorry! DVDs are basically specially-constructed video files (VOBs), with instructions to players(IFOs) for how to play them.

So you can't muck with the videos without also making sure the instructions still work, and vice-versa.

The simplest way to avoid warnings & such is to use DVD Shrink and backup in Re-Author mode w/only the movie and soundtracks/subtitles you want. But if you want to retain the complete menu structure yet avoid certain elements of the complete DVD then you will have to learn PgcEdit or IfoEdit or one of the other (all pretty complex) tools, along with some of the terminology involved.

spyhawk · 21st November 2005, 17:48

Hi Tom, read this guide so you have a better understanding of DVD structure along with its terminology. Then you'll have a better idea of what PgcEdit and VobBlanker guides are talking about.

Just a quick answer to one of your questions regarding blanking and cutting.

Blanking means replacing a segment of video with a blank, aka black, segment. You won't even see this during normal playback, so it's as if you have removed the unwanted video.

Cutting is just what it means. By cutting, you completely remove either the beginning, the middle, or the end of the video.

TomBrooklyn · 21st November 2005, 09:16

Hi jean,
I tried to get the first Pgc guide you said was "here" but that guide has a menu but no content under any of the menu sections.

I started using your guide though. BTW, in your guide it seems under section 4 that I have to leave Trace Mode to retore the icons on top where I can select the "Kill Playback" button. Then I have to restore Trace Mode to select "Next PB". You didn't mention that so I wondered if I did something wrong or suboptimally.

Also in Section 3, you say to select "No" to the offer to mark the PGC as having no cells/programs. Would that remove the section to allow more space for the main movie?

Another question I have is I came up on a trailer for some other movies. I had set this to still picture in Shrink on the burn I did before. I went to kill it in Pgc and it shows it has five buttons. I got a warning about the buttons when I selected to kill it, so I didn't kill it. However, that trailer has no buttons. I know that from watching the original.

CoNS · 21st November 2005, 09:36

Removing unwanted material has been discussed a lot here in this forum in previous threads.

You may want to check out this thread. (see my first reply in that thread for a overview of the various methods)

TomBrooklyn · 21st November 2005, 09:50

OK CoNS, thanks. I think I want Vob for my current application anyway as I'd rather remove the material then just bypass it.

TomBrooklyn · 21st November 2005, 14:06

Hi Dimad,
That looks nice but I was hoping to be able to do it with freeware or donorware.

BTW, I processed the files, ran it through Shrink, and it didn't work. Nothing was gone.

TomBk

Groasnicu' · 21st November 2005, 16:52

Hi TomBrooklyn,

First of all read forum rules, especialy
1) Read up before asking! There are tons of guides, FAQs and each forum has a dedicated Q&A thread with additional info.

1a) Use the search function before posting. Chances are your question has already been answered.

and second freeware & donorware is made, generaly, by one person not by corporation resulting a small interface.

If you want something easier to use, with a good visual interface, in generaly you have to pay.

19th January 2003, 00:27	#1 \| Link
2COOL PGC Navigator in Training Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: NTSC Land Posts: 3,552	Getting Rid of Movie Intros Guide Getting Rid of Movie Intros Guide Soooo,here's the scenario. You have company logos and other crap embedded in your first chapter, prior to your movie actually starts? You find that bothersome and you want to bypass them. Sometimes, these menu intros don't even reside in their own cells. Here's a sure way of getting the accurate start entry point so that when you press Play, it starts playing the movie. I take no credit for this method. To the best of my knowledge, credits should go to VidHack. NOTE: This procedure will NOT strip your menu-intros out. It is used to set a new starting entry point on when actual movie begins. Courtesy of 2CL Tools I used: IFOedit 0.95 DVD2AVI 1.76 & VOBrator 0.2 Beta. Wordpad or Text Editor Scientific Calculator (Windows or personal) NOTE: This guide is in assumption that your movie (widescreen or fullscreen) resides in VTS_01_.** Substitute VTS_01_* your actual titleset, VTS__ in this guide if it's not.* _____________________________________________________________________________ 1. Open VTS_01_1.vob with DVD2AVI. _____________________________________________________________________________ 2. Delete all other following VOBs from File list. We only need to keep VTS_01_1.VOB. _____________________________________________________________________________ 3. Movie, with no sound, will appear in viewing area. Dragging the bottom slide bar and using the < and > buttons for fine tuning, get to a black part that is just before the movie actually starts. When you get that spot you want, press the “[” button located at bottom right. This sets the movie start point. _____________________________________________________________________________ 4. Save Project to your movie folder as filename “no intro”. After save is done, you will have a D2V and AC3 file present. _____________________________________________________________________________ 5. Close DVD2AVI. _____________________________________________________________________________ 6. Open Wordpad or a text editor. With “File of types” dropdown menu set to “All documents (.)”, open “no intro.d2v”. _____________________________________________________________________________ 7. Find and view this line: Location=0,A,0,B. This is just an example. The second position, represented by "A", zero is your start hex value and the fourth position, "B", is your end hex value. Positions 1 and 3 are normally zeroes. Since we are just dealing with the menu-intros, write down your start value. _____________________________________________________________________________ 8. Open up your Scientific Calculator in Windows and select Hex (hexadecimal) mode. _____________________________________________________________________________ 9. Input your start value you wrote down. _____________________________________________________________________________ 10. Switch to dec (decimal) mode and the value changes. _____________________________________________________________________________ 11. Write this number down and close calculator. _____________________________________________________________________________ 12. Using IFOedit 0,95, go to VTS_01_0.IFO/VTS_PGCITI/VTS_PGC_1/Cell Playback section. Normally, the movie is located in VTS_PGC_1. In Cell 1 section, your entry start points is normally a value of 0. Change that value to the value you wrote down in step 11. Do this by double-left clicking on line. _____________________________________________________________________________ 13. Save VTS_01_0.IFO _____________________________________________________________________________ 14. Get VTS Sectors. I do it out of habit. _____________________________________________________________________________ 15. Preview and test. _____________________________________________________________________________ This method is also used in cutting credits out. Refer to my "Signs" cheat sheets, steps 14 to 30, for guidance. Here's the link. Signs __________________ 2COOL Last edited by 2COOL; 30th July 2003 at 13:19.

20th January 2003, 04:50	#3 \| Link
timewaster Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 23	About A Boy split problem After splitting about a boy, i tried to make disc2 start by playing the movie instead of the menu. I did this by changing the precommand to jumpto titleset 1, title1, rootmenu, but it still plays the menu. Anyone know how to fix this?

25th February 2003, 14:24	#4 \| Link
htc10825 Gladiator Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 552	@timewaster dont waster your time, just use InstantCopy 7.0 to shrink the movie to 1 disc. Make your life easier. Last edited by htc10825; 25th February 2003 at 14:39.

25th February 2003, 14:37	#5 \| Link
htc10825 Gladiator Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 552	major improvement for "get the starting sector" @2CooL instead of the dvd2avi etc. way, just double click on the line containing "cell 1" in VTS_01_0.IFO root pannel of IfoEdit. You'll see a preview window, use the slide bar to navigation to the real movie starting point. Get the sector address displayed above the preview picture. Then go on with your guide step 12. So the steps 1. -11. can be simplifed to ONE step. 2CooL, you are very cool. But keep on good working! EDIT: I've deleted some words(in above line) which someone was not amused with it. Last edited by htc10825; 25th February 2003 at 18:53.

25th February 2003, 15:23	#7 \| Link
2COOL PGC Navigator in Training Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: NTSC Land Posts: 3,552	Re: major improve for "get the starting sector" [EDITED] __________________ 2COOL Last edited by 2COOL; 2nd August 2003 at 01:41.

20th January 2003, 04:47	#2 \| Link
timewaster Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 23	I just tried this and when I played back the move from IFOEdit, it freezes. Anyone else tried this and had success?

25th February 2003, 18:48	#8 \| Link
htc10825 Gladiator Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 552	I found the nick funny so made joke with it. It is nothing evil. If you feel it that "like a flame towards my well-being" so sorry for it and I'll deleted it. But you've ignored that I appreciated your good works a lot in the two previours posts. How do you explain it? If someone makes a trivial thing so big and quote the forum rulez etc. as answer at once ... I would say it is not the best proof of coolness. We do discuss here "just for fun" so let's keep on discovering more hidden secrets of IfoEdit that were left by Derrow. Last edited by htc10825; 25th February 2003 at 18:55.

21st November 2005, 05:26	#10 \| Link
TomBrooklyn Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 393	Hi 2Cool, I want to remove the FBI and copyright stuff. I ripped with DeCrypter in File Mode. I open the file with IfoEdit. All I see are line of text. I can't tell what is what. How am I supposed to know what to delete? Thanks. I press DVD Preview and a pop up says I need mpeg2 decoder. I thought I had one of them installed somewhere on my computer already. I can view DVDs in Shrink or in VLC media player. What do I have to do to view dvd in ifoedit so I can tell what I want to remove? Last edited by TomBrooklyn; 21st November 2005 at 05:28.

21st November 2005, 08:12	#11 \| Link
jeanl Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: California, USA Posts: 2,079	TomBrooklyn There are much better tools than IFOEdit available now to do that kind of stuff: - Vobblanker (check out the guides here) - PgcEdit (guides here and these two to do exactly what you want... jeanl __________________ A few PgcEdit guides. DVDSubEdit a free tool to edit subtitles directly inside the vob.

21st November 2005, 17:48	#15 \| Link
spyhawk Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 170	Hi Tom, read this guide so you have a better understanding of DVD structure along with its terminology. Then you'll have a better idea of what PgcEdit and VobBlanker guides are talking about. Just a quick answer to one of your questions regarding blanking and cutting. Blanking means replacing a segment of video with a blank, aka black, segment. You won't even see this during normal playback, so it's as if you have removed the unwanted video. Cutting is just what it means. By cutting, you completely remove either the beginning, the middle, or the end of the video.

21st November 2005, 09:16	#16 \| Link
TomBrooklyn Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 393	Hi jean, I tried to get the first Pgc guide you said was "here" but that guide has a menu but no content under any of the menu sections. I started using your guide though. BTW, in your guide it seems under section 4 that I have to leave Trace Mode to retore the icons on top where I can select the "Kill Playback" button. Then I have to restore Trace Mode to select "Next PB". You didn't mention that so I wondered if I did something wrong or suboptimally. Also in Section 3, you say to select "No" to the offer to mark the PGC as having no cells/programs. Would that remove the section to allow more space for the main movie? Another question I have is I came up on a trailer for some other movies. I had set this to still picture in Shrink on the burn I did before. I went to kill it in Pgc and it shows it has five buttons. I got a warning about the buttons when I selected to kill it, so I didn't kill it. However, that trailer has no buttons. I know that from watching the original. Last edited by TomBrooklyn; 22nd November 2005 at 15:56. Reason: spelling correction

21st November 2005, 09:36	#17 \| Link
CoNS reMember Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Under your bed Posts: 728	Removing unwanted material has been discussed a lot here in this forum in previous threads. You may want to check out this thread. (see my first reply in that thread for a overview of the various methods)

21st November 2005, 09:50	#18 \| Link
TomBrooklyn Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 393	OK CoNS, thanks. I think I want Vob for my current application anyway as I'd rather remove the material then just bypass it.

21st November 2005, 14:06	#19 \| Link
TomBrooklyn Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 393	Hi Dimad, That looks nice but I was hoping to be able to do it with freeware or donorware. BTW, I processed the files, ran it through Shrink, and it didn't work. Nothing was gone. TomBk

21st November 2005, 16:52	#20 \| Link
Groasnicu' Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Romania Posts: 34	Hi TomBrooklyn, First of all read forum rules, especialy 1) Read up before asking! There are tons of guides, FAQs and each forum has a dedicated Q&A thread with additional info. 1a) Use the search function before posting. Chances are your question has already been answered. and second freeware & donorware is made, generaly, by one person not by corporation resulting a small interface. If you want something easier to use, with a good visual interface, in generaly you have to pay.