madVR - high quality video renderer (GPU assisted)

[FIX94]

Originally Posted by nevcairiel

AMD is known to be a bit unstable with DXVA2, well, at least I have heard plenty of reports and experienced a bunch of fun myself. You might have found one of those fun occasions.

So I guess for others to reproduce it they might need a AMD card, LAV with DXVA2 and madVR at the same time? No wonder then this issue was not reported. By the way, LAV is awesome, its so good to just have one software instead of some huge codec pack while keeping everything fast, great job on all of that!

[huhn]

Originally Posted by zvans18

SR on: http://i.imgur.com/l0aNhH1.png
SR off: http://i.imgur.com/maff9s2.png

i use nnedi3 32 for chroma and doubling chroma

you use refine every x2 right?

i get the same and it is not recommended to use superes more than 1 time.

http://abload.de/img/testisthardrgszc.png

[Sarasa]

@madshi

in the rar, my settings.bin & the file 638*480 used for the test

http://dl.free.fr/getfile.pl?file=/7THddRTo

[ADude]

Originally Posted by madshi

See the first image in that post 13 posts back. The black bars I'm talking about are those "encoded letterboxes" described in that image. Also look at all the other images in that post and try to understand what purpose they have in the context of that post, then you should get a pretty good idea what it's all about.

As I mentioned, I know what a "black bar" is.

In the past, the player was dealing with all those issues. (In fact, in response to a request I made months ago, someone replied that "the player should be taking care of that")

What I am missing is what madVR is now doing (when the new feature(s) are used).

It is changing the frame size prior to doing up/down-scaling ?

(Perhaps 6233638 knows what I am asking?)

[huhn]

if the frame size is 1280x960 (4/3) with a 16/9 picture with hard coded black bars it is changing the picture size to 1280x720.

depending on other settings other things will happen now with that picture.

is there someone else who can't change the anamorphic lens stretch factor ?

[Weirdo]

I think the image has shifted to the top (not centred any more) on both my media players - haven't touched zoom settings. Happens in full-screen mode only.

[ADude]

Originally Posted by huhn

if the frame size is 1280x960 (4/3) with a 16/9 picture with hard coded black bars it is changing the picture size to 1280x720.

depending on other settings other things will happen now with that picture.

Thanks for your reply !

So if I have a madVR profile that says "IF 960 THEN..." will it do the action? Or will it now only satisfy "IF 720 THEN... "

Also, what is "screen masking" ?

[ajp_anton]

Originally Posted by madshi

Using which DXVA decoder? LAV Video Decoder? Is it the media player which crashes or madVR? See the comment above this one.

I added more info in later posts, maybe you missed them. LAV yes, and it was madVR that crashed.
Anyway, I can no longer reproduce the issue, so it might have been a driver bug, because I've updated them since the problem.

[huhn]

Originally Posted by ADude

So if I have a madVR profile that says "IF 960 THEN..." will it do the action? Or will it now only satisfy "IF 720 THEN... "

it ignores profiles.
i guess it still take the source size for a simple reason there is no way the algo knows if the whole file is a 4/3 file with 16/9 content.

Also, what is "screen masking" ?

you kind of say madVR how many black pixel should be at each boarder. this can be used for over scanning TV/projector or a not optimal projector screen setup. with other words it adds black boarders.

[zvans18]

Originally Posted by huhn

you use refine every x2 right?

i get the same and it is not recommended to use superes more than 1 time.

http://abload.de/img/testisthardrgszc.png

nope, just the once

[jkauff]

Originally Posted by madshi

madVR v0.89.2 released

http://madshi.net/madVR.zip

* fixed: one more media player startup crash
* fixed: DXVA deinterlacing and black bar detection didn't like each other
* fixed: DXVA scaling had some problems with v0.89.0 and v0.89.1
* fixed: some media player size/pos zoom wishes were not properly applied

My media player black screen problems (MC21, MPC-HC) didn't go away until I ran "restore default settings.bat".

Thought I'd mention it in case anyone else has the same problem.

[fedpul]

Many many thanks madshi, 0.89.2 now works with JRiver MC 20 and keep working with MPC-HC. The only thing I did notice is that subtitle positioning is wrong with some movies in JRiver when you choose No Changes in proportion settings, when you change to Expand it is fixed. Another thing i noticed is that with 0.89.2 NNEDI performance has decreased considerably. I was using NNEDI 64 without problems and now i can barely keep up with NNEDI 32.

PD: After more testing JRiver does keeps crashing with some movies.

Bug report link: http://www.megafileupload.com/duS0/bugreport.txt

Thanks in advance.

I really appreciate your hard work.

[BrainDedd]

Originally Posted by madshi

madVR v0.89.2 released

http://madshi.net/madVR.zip

* fixed: one more media player startup crash
* fixed: DXVA deinterlacing and black bar detection didn't like each other
* fixed: DXVA scaling had some problems with v0.89.0 and v0.89.1
* fixed: some media player size/pos zoom wishes were not properly applied

Perfect. DXVA scaling is working awesomely.
Thanks madshi!

[khanmein]

image upscaling Jinc tab is grey-ed out. unable to choose 3 taps.

[madshi]

Originally Posted by zvans18

SR on: http://i.imgur.com/l0aNhH1.png
SR off: http://i.imgur.com/maff9s2.png

i use nnedi3 32 for chroma and doubling chroma

Originally Posted by Sarasa

in the rar, my settings.bin & the file 638*480 used for the test

http://dl.free.fr/getfile.pl?file=/7THddRTo

Thanks, will try next weekend to reproduce it.

Originally Posted by FIX94

So I guess for others to reproduce it they might need a AMD card, LAV with DXVA2 and madVR at the same time? No wonder then this issue was not reported.

It's not that rare a combination. Of all the madVR users in this thread most are using LAV, many DXVA2 copyback, and AMD GPUs are quite common, too.

Originally Posted by ADude

As I mentioned, I know what a "black bar" is.

In the past, the player was dealing with all those issues.

How can the player do that? The player doesn't even know if there are black bars encoded into the video or not.

Originally Posted by ADude

What I am missing is what madVR is now doing (when the new feature(s) are used).

It is changing the frame size prior to doing up/down-scaling ?

It depends on the settings. Currently madVR simply overwrites the zooming factor and position of the video, to adjust for the detected hard coded black bars. In a future version, if you activate the (not yet available) "clear black bars" option, madVR will probably actually crop the hard coded black bars away completely. But in the end that's just a difference in implementation. The end effect (what is visible on screen) shouldn't differ that much.

Originally Posted by ADude

Also, what is "screen masking" ?

It's only for front projection. I'll remove these settings for all display types but front projection in a future version.

Originally Posted by Weirdo

I think the image has shifted to the top (not centred any more) on both my media players - haven't touched zoom settings. Happens in full-screen mode only.

Totally to the top or just a tiny bit? You're saying the image isn't centered vertically, anymore? That sounds strange. Especially that it only happens in full-screen mode!

Originally Posted by ajp_anton

I added more info in later posts, maybe you missed them. LAV yes, and it was madVR that crashed.
Anyway, I can no longer reproduce the issue, so it might have been a driver bug, because I've updated them since the problem.

Ok, thanks.

Originally Posted by jkauff

My media player black screen problems (MC21, MPC-HC) didn't go away until I ran "restore default settings.bat".

Not sure why, though.

Originally Posted by fedpul

Another thing i noticed is that with 0.89.2 NNEDI performance has decreased considerably. I was using NNEDI 64 without problems and now i can barely keep up with NNEDI 32.

That should not be the case, are you sure? Which previous version did you compare to? Make sure you test with the same video. Also try to disable the black bar detection, just to make sure that doesn't affect things (although it shouldn't).

Originally Posted by fedpul

PD: After more testing JRiver does keeps crashing with some movies.

Bug report link: http://www.megafileupload.com/duS0/bugreport.txt

The crash report says you're still using v0.89.1.

Originally Posted by BrainDedd

Perfect. DXVA scaling is working awesomely.

Originally Posted by khanmein

image upscaling Jinc tab is grey-ed out. unable to choose 3 taps.

3 taps is the only option now, that's why the taps option field is greyed out. I've removed 4 taps and 8 taps because they didn't bring any noticeable quality improvement.

[wanezhiling]

Latest madVR 0.89.2 has an issue with PotPlayer.
Play a file and turn into maximized size, the image will zoom much bigger than normal. http://i1.tietuku.com/2e6e6bab0be6fb69.png
The normal should be: http://i1.tietuku.com/44f1b8a37618c6fb.png

ps: no this issue with 0.89.1 and older versions

[madshi]

Originally Posted by wanezhiling

Latest madVR 0.89.2 has an issue with PotPlayer.
Play a file and turn into maximized size, the image will zoom much bigger than normal. http://i1.tietuku.com/2e6e6bab0be6fb69.png
The normal should be: http://i1.tietuku.com/44f1b8a37618c6fb.png

ps: no this issue with 0.89.1 and older versions

Is that with the black bar detection stuff enabled or disabled? If it's enabled, does it make a difference if you disable it? On a quick check I wasn't able to reproduce the issue here with the PotPlayer version I have installed. It's a rather old build, though.

[Weirdo]

Did a settings reset (or sth. else I didn't notice...) and this issue is solved, thanks. Yes, it wasn't centred vertically, being fully at the top with all video still visible (on screen).

Originally Posted by madshi

Totally to the top or just a tiny bit? You're saying the image isn't centered vertically, anymore? That sounds strange. Especially that it only happens in full-screen mode!

[wanezhiling]

@madshi
I use default madVR settings and didn't touch any config yet, it's a fresh installation. So it's disabled, right?
I use latest PotPlayer 1.6.56209, released today.

[madshi]

Originally Posted by wanezhiling

I use default madVR settings and didn't touch any config yet, it's a fresh installation. So it's disabled, right?
I use latest PotPlayer 1.6.56209, released today.

Yes, it should be disabled then. Can you create a debug log for me from the incorrect zoom situation?