Welcome to Doom9's Forum, THE in-place to be for everyone interested in DVD conversion.

Before you start posting please read the forum rules. By posting to this forum you agree to abide by the rules.

 

Go Back   Doom9's Forum > Hardware & Software > Software players

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 31st July 2014, 00:27   #27021  |  Link
kasper93
MPC-HC Developer
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Poland
Posts: 586
Quote:
Originally Posted by ajp2k11 View Post
Windows update, at least I assume it's 14.7 because it's dated july 2014 and it replaced the 14.4 Windows update version I had as a hidden update. I was uninstalling another driver I tested and this one popped up as new on WU (Win8.1)...
Those drivers on Windows Update are 13.12.

Also this is not a good thread to discuss drivers and hardware related topics...
kasper93 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31st July 2014, 01:02   #27022  |  Link
agustin9
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 86
Quote:
Originally Posted by ajp2k11 View Post
Normally under display modes in MadVR I write 1080p120, 1080p60 but that doesn't help. Is that what you mean? I just noticed that when I press WIN+P for presentation mode and select "Duplicate" it switches to 1024x768/60Hz and MadVR works...
Try to disable the switcher on madvr and mpc too if you're using it
agustin9 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31st July 2014, 03:48   #27023  |  Link
JohnLai
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 448
I am using Win7 and not using switcher etc.

I dont think the black screen issue has any relation with amd driver.
It happen with my ATI HD4850 and Mobility Radeon HD 4200(legacy 13.9 driver) in addition to ATI HD 5450 and 8670M (14.4, 14.7RC).

I think the problem happen after I update the madvr to current v0.87.10. Too bad I can't remember which is the last version that works.

EDIT: it only happen sometime, end task using windows task manager and everything back to normal.
JohnLai is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31st July 2014, 08:49   #27024  |  Link
ajp2k11
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 57
Quote:
Originally Posted by kasper93 View Post
Those drivers on Windows Update are 13.12.

Also this is not a good thread to discuss drivers and hardware related topics...
My bad, it's actually 14.4. I thought it was 14.7 since I had hidden the 14.4 one from WU earlier... or so I thought. And yes I agree with keeping it about MadVR, I just answered a question.
ajp2k11 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31st July 2014, 08:50   #27025  |  Link
ajp2k11
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 57
Quote:
Originally Posted by agustin9 View Post
Try to disable the switcher on madvr and mpc too if you're using it
Tried that as well as locking it to 1080p60 or 1080p120 but no luck, thanks.
ajp2k11 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31st July 2014, 08:53   #27026  |  Link
ajp2k11
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 57
Sounds like you have the exact problem I had before, only mine has gotten worse and never works anymore. Black screen every time now. At least before it worked most of the time. Not sure what has changed, there was a time on Win7 and older MadVR when it always worked for me. Maybe Win8 exaggerates the problem? Good to hear others are having this problem too, thought I was alone...

Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnLai View Post
I am using Win7 and not using switcher etc.

I dont think the black screen issue has any relation with amd driver.
It happen with my ATI HD4850 and Mobility Radeon HD 4200(legacy 13.9 driver) in addition to ATI HD 5450 and 8670M (14.4, 14.7RC).

I think the problem happen after I update the madvr to current v0.87.10. Too bad I can't remember which is the last version that works.

EDIT: it only happen sometime, end task using windows task manager and everything back to normal.
ajp2k11 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31st July 2014, 16:38   #27027  |  Link
tjcinnamon
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 44
How often is this updated

How often is MadVR updated? 0.87.10 currently. Any ideas when a new release will come out?
tjcinnamon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31st July 2014, 16:46   #27028  |  Link
huhn
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 7,903
Quote:
Originally Posted by tjcinnamon View Post
How often is MadVR updated? 0.87.10 currently. Any ideas when a new release will come out?
when Madshi finds the time.

sometimes madVR gets 5 versions in a week and sometimes no in 3+ month.
huhn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31st July 2014, 16:48   #27029  |  Link
kasper93
MPC-HC Developer
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Poland
Posts: 586
Quote:
Originally Posted by ajp2k11 View Post
My bad, it's actually 14.4. I thought it was 14.7 since I had hidden the 14.4 one from WU earlier... or so I thought. And yes I agree with keeping it about MadVR, I just answered a question.
Like I said before, they are NOT 14.4... Why do you assume that? Look at the version not at the dates and compare with 13.12 WHQL released back in December. Anyway this is my last post about this matter...

Quote:
Originally Posted by tjcinnamon View Post
How often is MadVR updated? 0.87.10 currently. Any ideas when a new release will come out?
When it's ready.
kasper93 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31st July 2014, 17:17   #27030  |  Link
ajp2k11
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 57
Quote:
Originally Posted by kasper93 View Post
Like I said before, they are NOT 14.4... Why do you assume that? Look at the version not at the dates and compare with 13.12 WHQL released back in December. Anyway this is my last post about this matter...



When it's ready.
Well the information tab in CCC says "Catalyst version 14.4"....but what do I know. :-S

My last off-topic too, sorry.
ajp2k11 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31st July 2014, 18:20   #27031  |  Link
flashmozzg
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 77
Quote:
Originally Posted by ajp2k11 View Post
Well the information tab in CCC says "Catalyst version 14.4"....but what do I know. :-S

My last off-topic too, sorry.
It's Catalyst verion, not frivers. Sometimes it doesn't get updated unlees you do full reinstall - always misleading.
flashmozzg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1st August 2014, 09:53   #27032  |  Link
mysterix
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Ukraine
Posts: 25
How about my question?
mysterix is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1st August 2014, 10:25   #27033  |  Link
sneaker_ger
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 5,565
"present several frames in advance" is supposed to be more glitch-free (no dropped frames, no tearing) and some features need it. The only reason there's an option to turn it off is that it did or does work worse for a few people. If you don't have any problems leave it turned on.

Last edited by sneaker_ger; 1st August 2014 at 11:23.
sneaker_ger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1st August 2014, 10:52   #27034  |  Link
huhn
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 7,903
Quote:
Originally Posted by mysterix View Post
For what presenting frames in advance is needed? What will be if to disable it?
if you disable this option madVR can't present frames in advance.
without this you can get dropped frames when your pc is doing something that stops madVR from presenting frames for a very short time.
this simply makes playback more save.
huhn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1st August 2014, 11:12   #27035  |  Link
Soukyuu
Registered User
 
Soukyuu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 169
Quote:
Originally Posted by sneaker_ger View Post
The new mode is supposed to be more glitch-free (no dropped frames, no tearing) and some features need it.
Which features would that be?
__________________
AMD Phenom II X4 970BE | 12GB DDR3 | nVidia 260GTX | Arch Linux / Windows 10 x64 Pro (w/ calling home shut up)
Soukyuu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1st August 2014, 11:28   #27036  |  Link
sneaker_ger
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 5,565
For FSE mode DXVA2 native and error diffusion. (+ probably a few other things I'm missing.)
sneaker_ger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1st August 2014, 15:53   #27037  |  Link
mysterix
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Ukraine
Posts: 25
sneaker_ger
huhn
Thank you for answers.
mysterix is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2nd August 2014, 09:55   #27038  |  Link
alabrand1
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 1
Seems like either MPC-HC or MadVR doesn't play well with INF-modded Nvidia Quadro drivers (they usually release before GeForce with sometimes better performance). Performance is worse alltogether and there's nothing I can do to make it better except install normal GeForce drivers.
alabrand1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2nd August 2014, 19:36   #27039  |  Link
truexfan81
Registered User
 
truexfan81's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 138
Quote:
Originally Posted by alabrand1 View Post
Seems like either MPC-HC or MadVR doesn't play well with INF-modded Nvidia Quadro drivers (they usually release before GeForce with sometimes better performance). Performance is worse alltogether and there's nothing I can do to make it better except install normal GeForce drivers.
good to know, i had actually considered doing that, i guess i'll stick with the geforce drivers
truexfan81 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd August 2014, 00:55   #27040  |  Link
Asmodian
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: San Jose, California
Posts: 4,406
Quote:
Originally Posted by huhn View Post
if you disable this option madVR can't present frames in advance.
without this you can get dropped frames when your pc is doing something that stops madVR from presenting frames for a very short time.
this simply makes playback more save.
Actually madVR will use backbuffers instead of a present queue with this option off. I am not sure what exactly is different between the two, a present queue is obviously less likely to have a stall, but it isn't as bad as no buffers at all and any hiccup causing a frame drop.

Quote:
Originally Posted by sneaker_ger View Post
For FSE mode DXVA2 native and error diffusion. (+ probably a few other things I'm missing.)
"present several frames in advance" is also needed for reporting "presentation glitches" but you don't need it for error diffusion dithering.
Asmodian is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
direct compute, dithering, error diffusion, madvr, ngu, nnedi3, quality, renderer, scaling, uhd upscaling, upsampling

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 01:23.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.