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Old 8th April 2011, 10:08   #1  |  Link
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Blueray media file validator

Hi all,

Do you know a tool which check your media file to see is it's a real blueray compliant file ?

I heard about sony validator but i can't find it and anyway, i guess its a very expenssive tool...

Any free prog ?
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Hi all,

Do you know a tool which check your media file to see is it's a real blueray compliant file ?

I heard about sony validator but i can't find it and anyway, i guess its a very expenssive tool...

Any free prog ?
Yep they all are expensive tools. There is no free solution yet, and probably wont be. Only you left to follow bd specification and you should be fine.
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Very expensive, about 10.000$
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Yep they all are expensive tools. There is no free solution yet, and probably wont be. Only you left to follow bd specification and you should be fine.
Is it a mix of hardware/software solution or software only ?

A quick thing : If i test with an authoring blueray editor, if the prog say ' ok i can mux it ' is it a 100% compliant file or not ?

I tested my own x264 creation with Dostudio authoring and no error but...is it a guaranty about being 'fine' in every player ? Good question imo...

Any opinion about that ?
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Some replicators will validate the file.
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Is it a mix of hardware/software solution or software only ?
Software

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A quick thing : If i test with an authoring blueray editor, if the prog say ' ok i can mux it ' is it a 100% compliant file or not ?
No guaranteed to be 100% compliant.

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I tested my own x264 creation with Dostudio authoring and no error but...is it a guaranty about being 'fine' in every player ? Good question imo...
No, it isn't.

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Any opinion about that ?
Some replicator will check the compliancy prior to replicate, but they're not obliged so it strictly depends by the replicator.
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Do you have some name in mind ? I mean the software's name, i will try to reach one thx to my job
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Eclipse verifier, Sony BD verifier, Panasonic BD verifier etc.
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Eclipse verifier, Sony BD verifier, Panasonic BD verifier etc.
I knew sony BD and Panasonic but i don't even find a link about Eclipse verifier
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I knew sony BD and Panasonic but i don't even find a link about Eclipse verifier
http://www.eclipsedata.com/insidepages.asp?pageID=1
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I knew sony BD and Panasonic but i don't even find a link about Eclipse verifier
It's also part of the Scenarist suite.
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As mp3dom says there is no 100% guarantee to be compliant after muxing, without verifier you will newer know. But if you strict your settings, for example never maxed settings like max rate, references, and other stuff which explicitly pronounced in bd specs, and leave some room for errors, you BD have big chances to make compliant stream.
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It's also part of the Scenarist suite.
? A validator in Scenarist ? You mean a single 'import' ? or a validator tool ?
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Eclipse is part of the installation routine for Scenarist.
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Eclipse is part of the installation routine for Scenarist.
I don't get it, i don't know much about Scenarist but we have one at work (V5.x) but if i remember right i don't see a 'tool' which check the compliant media...

You really mean a tool in scenarist ? which version ?
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I don't get it, i don't know much about Scenarist but we have one at work (V5.x) but if i remember right i don't see a 'tool' which check the compliant media...

You really mean a tool in scenarist ? which version ?
Probably confused with another eclipse.
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Eclipe is the IDE to made BD-J in Scenarist (basically Scenarist BD-J is the Eclipse IDE with customs jar to made BD-J). It's not a verifier obviously.
What kieranrk is referring to is EclipseSuite which is a suite to made the BD mastering process and it's available only for replicator companies.
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So basically, no one here have acces to this kind of tool i guess?
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So basically, no one here have acces to this kind of tool i guess?
Some people here do as part of their jobs.
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Some people here do as part of their jobs.
I know , i'm just asking

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