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Old 1st April 2003, 19:39   #461  |  Link
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I am running Windows 2000 so I don't think I can use the new renderers (or can I?)
Yes, but you have to install DirectX 9.0 (or 9.0a )
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Old 1st April 2003, 21:28   #462  |  Link
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Well, i'll try to reproduce your problems. Must find some PCs running win2k ... Which version of directx are you using ?
I'll also try to find why it crash with directvobsub ... Doesn't want to crash here ...
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Old 2nd April 2003, 10:33   #463  |  Link
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Well, i'll try to reproduce your problems. Must find some PCs running win2k ... Which version of directx are you using ?
I'll also try to find why it crash with directvobsub ... Doesn't want to crash here ...
Doesn't crash with all movies...sometimes it works with DirectVobSub... :-)
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Old 2nd April 2003, 15:49   #464  |  Link
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I am running DirectX 9. Are there any real advantages of using VMR9 instead of the Overlay mixer or Old Renderer? I didn't see any difference when switching between the formats.
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Old 3rd April 2003, 14:15   #465  |  Link
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I am running DirectX 9. Are there any real advantages of using VMR9 instead of the Overlay mixer or Old Renderer? I didn't see any difference when switching between the formats.
Advantages of VMR9 that I have found:

- In zoomplayer, making playlist of many little movies, there is not a black screen between previous and next movie... Is not really seamless becouse the last frame of previous movie freeze for a little time (about the time of black screen in Overlay Mixer), but thus is better than black screen

- believe or not :-) Opening VMR9 Property windows and put it on backgroung plaing movies, audio and video are always perfectly in sync, also without reclock... (PAL DIVX with AC3 audio, AC3Filter)

disadvantages:

slower, realy slower than Overlay Mixer... use it on machine of 1Gz or better ...
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Old 6th April 2003, 00:24   #466  |  Link
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If I disable the option "Force Overlay Mixer", Zoomplayer crashes the exact same way as MP 6.4 and MP Classic. So the crash must be related to the renderer.
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Old 6th April 2003, 14:01   #467  |  Link
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maybe a format c: with new installation of clean system can solve all that problem with VMR9 ? :-) Installing and unistalling daily release of codecs, video drivers, etc.. can destroy the healt of more than one computer :-)
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Old 7th April 2003, 16:48   #468  |  Link
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Hi guys,

Quite busy those days Didn't take time to read all your posts.

Anyway, Ewi, i've reproduced your "freezing player" problem with the VSYNC monitor activated. It seem to be the same problem that i have with Cinemaster DVD filters (or TheaterTek player). Some threads get blocked in some DirectX API calls for no reason. Don't really understand yet why ... To be more precise (maybe Gabest will read this ?), if i protect every DirectX call with a critical section, after some time a thread will block in the directx call, while another is waiting for the critical section. If i remove the critical sections, no one get stuck in directx (this is really really strange). But i need those critical sections to protect other things ... I'm sure there is no "crossed" (dont know the word) critical section anywhere.

This is completely mad: it would mean a thread can get stuck in directx until another call the same API ??? I know there is some global lock in directx but it is poorly documented ...
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Old 7th April 2003, 17:13   #469  |  Link
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I'm not in picture about this prob now, but in such a case I do these:
- CCritSec::m_fTrace = TRUE
- HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Debug\<..>\LOCKING = 10
- print CCritSec's address at the beginning
- check the debug output when the deadlock happens to find out which two threads are waiting for eachother
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Old 12th April 2003, 17:54   #470  |  Link
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Haiz, finally, have to wait so long just to post this one.

Hi Ogo,
I sent an e-mail to you but there was no reply. Hopefully you can answer some questions.

Anyway, I like the program and I think it is great that you are doing this (Reclock).

However, ever since version 0.99h, there is still sound clippings in the various media files I played. This occurs for avi encoded at 23.* and for those mpeg encoded at 29.9 FPS.

So in other words, I am disappointed that version (I) failed to remedy the problem. Version G works well except that sometimes for MPEG 29.97 video, the audio can get out of sync, and you get the feeling that you are watching a show dubbed in another language.

Also I have a question. Is it true that the program cannot stop the jerkiness that comes when one plays a NTSC (29.97 FPS) Media with a PAL Ati Radeon Rage and a Pal TV? The refresh rate is stuck at 50Hz for me. I get the message that it cannot sync with the TV, and I should adjust it as a multiple of 30 or something. This is impossible to adjust for a normal analog TV.

In contrast, I don't see the jerkiness when it comes to media encoded with FPS of about 24 or less.

However, another thing is when I used the best(option) for the timings, the pitch is raised, so some voices become heightened and don't sound natural. Is this a natural side effect of accelerated FPS timings for video encoded with FPS less than 25. Is there any plans to circumvent this side effect?

As a PAL system user, which I am sure you are very familiar with, I must report, that I have not ever encounter any sound clipping with AC3 with the open source AC3 sound filter in all versions of reclock.

Ok, one final question, do you think it is ever possible to play back NTSC video encoded at 29.97 FPS perfectly without jerkiness with PAL hardware, with a refresh rate of 50 Hz? And also when is your next releases.
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Old 19th April 2003, 15:28   #471  |  Link
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Just curious, ogo, how is development going?
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Old 20th April 2003, 04:19   #472  |  Link
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Hi guys, haven't been following this thread for a while. But I'd appreciate any help in getting VMR working on my machine. I'm using Windows 2000 and have DirectX 9 installed. Can VMR be enabled globally across windows, or is it done in the players themselves? I found the "Extended VMR Mode" option in ZoomPlayer, when I turn it on though, ReClock still uses the Overlay Mixer. Any ideas?
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Hi guys, haven't been following this thread for a while. But I'd appreciate any help in getting VMR working on my machine. I'm using Windows 2000 and have DirectX 9 installed. Can VMR be enabled globally across windows, or is it done in the players themselves? I found the "Extended VMR Mode" option in ZoomPlayer, when I turn it on though, ReClock still uses the Overlay Mixer. Any ideas?
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Old 20th April 2003, 10:24   #474  |  Link
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All I had to do to enable VMR9 was to check Extended VMR9 Mode in Zoomplayer. After testing it a bit I have found out some things.

The VMR9 renderer seems more forgiving of stutters and small errors in the movies. Before I had problems were Reclock looses the video sync at these points. It seems better now, but I haven't tested it much yet. I got one problem in Zoomplayer though. Mpeg1 movies look horrible at fullscreen. It looks like it is zoomed to fullscreen with a really bad zoom algorithm. I don't have this problem in Media Player Classic when using VMR9 so it must be something with Zoomplayer.
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Old 20th April 2003, 10:52   #475  |  Link
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I had troubles with the image scaling function of dx9 itself. You can read in mpc's thread about that I crop the pic by 1 pixel to force image filtering, without that it just uses point sampling sometimes.
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Old 26th April 2003, 15:58   #476  |  Link
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Hi,

let me first thank you all for the efforts getting reclock to work.

I did not find a list or the like which sound cards work properly with reclock. I only found one card among my collection that works, i.e. the very old (over 2 years) Soundblaster Live!
I know of course that none of the C-Media chipset cards work so far.

Also: Is there another way to activate reclock than with ZOOM? Do I understand correctly that there is no way to use reclock with a standard DVD program like WinDVD 4.0.


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Old 27th April 2003, 14:44   #477  |  Link
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Great news guys

I finally bought a C-Media card, and did found what's wrong with SPDIF. I now have SPDIF working fine ! I'll put a new version of reclock on my website quite soon.
Maybe the fix will also help some other sound cards to work in SPDIF, who knows

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Old 27th April 2003, 17:28   #478  |  Link
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Ogo,

phantastic news!

Thanks a million....

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Old 27th April 2003, 18:01   #479  |  Link
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Version 0.99j is out on my website, and have working C-Media SPDIF (at least on my PC hehe )

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Old 27th April 2003, 19:11   #480  |  Link
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Hi again,

just tried it out, it works. Congratulation, ogo!

More tests to follow (I'll try the system with the M-Audio DIO next, should be working there too now).

The only question that remains for me at the moment is, how do I activate reclock without ZOOM? Is there a way? I have one system where ZOOM does not work. Either I have to solve the former or the latter problem

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P.S.: M-Audio DIO works now, too, just tried it out
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