Using Doom9's Guide DVD-9 to DVD-5

Roveer · 19th January 2002, 17:35

I tried Doom9 guide and it appears to have worked. I just have a question.

How do I get disk2 to just begin playing the movie from where it left off from Disk 1? What I got was the audio menu (like disk 1), then the FBI warning, (like disk 1), then the main menu, (again like disk 1). After I selected play movie, It began playing the correct chapter (continued in the right place).

But what I want is to have the disk just start playing the movie?

Any ideas, let me know.

Roveer

Doom9 · 19th January 2002, 20:27

just lemme make sure I will give you the correct answer.. do you still want menus and everything on the 2nd disc? or just the main movie?

Roveer · 19th January 2002, 20:52

To be honest, I don't really care about the extras at all. I want just the movie and have it automatically start on disk 2 (or in my case side 2), of a dual sided dvd-r. I'm thinking this can go into a multi-changer which has flip capability. 1 movie, 2 sides, one slot in the mega-changer. What I haven't figured out yet, is if you pick one audio stream (dd5.1 vs another), how is that handled on disk 2? Maybe just provide the dd5.1 as the only audio stream?

roveer

Roveer · 20th January 2002, 08:43

Well, I had a chance to fool around with this a bit today and I was able to get it to work.

Using a combination of IfoEdit, VOB Extra's, and Smart Ripper I have a dual-sided DVD-R with American Beauty in original DVD format, no menu's no extras, DD5.1 audio. This will be the disk I take with me to try out the two mega-changers that have 'flip' capability (Sony & Kenwood). It was kind of a bummer, this flic only used 600 megs on the second side. If there was only something else to strip to get it on one DVD-R, but I took everything away. Stripped all audio and extras. It was 7.x gigs on the original disk, so I did get rid of quite a bit.

Roveer

Roveer · 20th January 2002, 22:59

My visit to the retailer with my newly made dual-sided DVD-r didn't go as well as expected. Here's the whole tale:

I went in search of a Mega changer (>300 disks), in hopes of building a DVD collection using DVD-R media. I purchased a few 2 sided DVD-R disks from www.cd-recordable.com and set off to create a 2 sided single movie DVD. My hope was to get DVD-9 content re-authored onto 2 sides of the DVD-R disk. After futzing with SmartRipper & Ifoedit I was successful in getting the movie properly re-authored and playing just fine with WINDVD on the computer. I then burned it to the DVD using Nero (5.5.6.4), on a Pioneer A03, and tried it in my Pioneer DV-C503 (5 disk carousel), and it played just fine. All extra's and menus and audio tracks stripped, just the movie with AC3 soundtrack.

I took this disk to my local retailer to give it a try in the two mega changers which support 'flipping' of a disk. Idea here being that the player will play side 1 then flip to side to and continue.

The two changers that support this are the Sony DVP-CX860 and the Kenwood DV-5050M, (both have better models), I actually tried my test on the Kenwood DV-5900M which has a Froujia line doulber (1,400 bucks). I was dissapointed to find that neither player would play the disk. Another dissapointment was the retailer was unable to hook either unit up to a TV, so I only had the front panel display to go by.

The Kenwood loaded the disk, indicated 'reading' for 20 seconds, then flipped the disk, indicated 'reading' then flipped again. The Sony appears to have given some sort of error code, but neither player would play the movie. I tried a regular DVD, and both players would begin playing the DVD with the usual counters on the front display. Just to be safe, I used the 'rental' slots on the Kenwood, to make sure it wasn't some kind of problem with wanting to label the disk in the player. Not being able to see what was happening on the TV, I'm still a little skeptical of what exactly happened, but the results between my DVD and the store DVD were quite different.

I'm wondering if anyone has any input or suggestions here. I'm supprised that my $250 Pioneer reads these disks just fine, while a $500 Sony, and a $1,400 Kenwood would not. Actually not surprised, more dissapointed. I bought the Pioneer because it would read anything!!! I've got single sided DVD-R's from another source, I think I'll make another prototype and head back to the store. Unfortunatly, I'll have to re-encode to get the whole movie on single side, which is what I was looking to avoid.

Questions:

Could the burning software have any affect? If not Nero, (5.5.6.4)what should I consider?

Could it be my content? Re-authored? What else to try?

Media (probably the culprit), any other sources of 2 sided DVD-R besides CD-Recordable.com? Emailed their tech support. Let's see what I get as a reply. Disks are sold as 'general purpose'

Any comments, suggestions are appreciated.

Roveer

19th January 2002, 17:35	#1 \| Link
Roveer Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 200	Using Doom9's Guide DVD-9 to DVD-5 I tried Doom9 guide and it appears to have worked. I just have a question. How do I get disk2 to just begin playing the movie from where it left off from Disk 1? What I got was the audio menu (like disk 1), then the FBI warning, (like disk 1), then the main menu, (again like disk 1). After I selected play movie, It began playing the correct chapter (continued in the right place). But what I want is to have the disk just start playing the movie? Any ideas, let me know. Roveer

19th January 2002, 20:27	#2 \| Link
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20th January 2002, 08:43	#4 \| Link
Roveer Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 200	Success!!! Well, I had a chance to fool around with this a bit today and I was able to get it to work. Using a combination of IfoEdit, VOB Extra's, and Smart Ripper I have a dual-sided DVD-R with American Beauty in original DVD format, no menu's no extras, DD5.1 audio. This will be the disk I take with me to try out the two mega-changers that have 'flip' capability (Sony & Kenwood). It was kind of a bummer, this flic only used 600 megs on the second side. If there was only something else to strip to get it on one DVD-R, but I took everything away. Stripped all audio and extras. It was 7.x gigs on the original disk, so I did get rid of quite a bit. Roveer

20th January 2002, 22:59	#5 \| Link
Roveer Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 200	Update to the saga... My visit to the retailer with my newly made dual-sided DVD-r didn't go as well as expected. Here's the whole tale: I went in search of a Mega changer (>300 disks), in hopes of building a DVD collection using DVD-R media. I purchased a few 2 sided DVD-R disks from www.cd-recordable.com and set off to create a 2 sided single movie DVD. My hope was to get DVD-9 content re-authored onto 2 sides of the DVD-R disk. After futzing with SmartRipper & Ifoedit I was successful in getting the movie properly re-authored and playing just fine with WINDVD on the computer. I then burned it to the DVD using Nero (5.5.6.4), on a Pioneer A03, and tried it in my Pioneer DV-C503 (5 disk carousel), and it played just fine. All extra's and menus and audio tracks stripped, just the movie with AC3 soundtrack. I took this disk to my local retailer to give it a try in the two mega changers which support 'flipping' of a disk. Idea here being that the player will play side 1 then flip to side to and continue. The two changers that support this are the Sony DVP-CX860 and the Kenwood DV-5050M, (both have better models), I actually tried my test on the Kenwood DV-5900M which has a Froujia line doulber (1,400 bucks). I was dissapointed to find that neither player would play the disk. Another dissapointment was the retailer was unable to hook either unit up to a TV, so I only had the front panel display to go by. The Kenwood loaded the disk, indicated 'reading' for 20 seconds, then flipped the disk, indicated 'reading' then flipped again. The Sony appears to have given some sort of error code, but neither player would play the movie. I tried a regular DVD, and both players would begin playing the DVD with the usual counters on the front display. Just to be safe, I used the 'rental' slots on the Kenwood, to make sure it wasn't some kind of problem with wanting to label the disk in the player. Not being able to see what was happening on the TV, I'm still a little skeptical of what exactly happened, but the results between my DVD and the store DVD were quite different. I'm wondering if anyone has any input or suggestions here. I'm supprised that my $250 Pioneer reads these disks just fine, while a $500 Sony, and a $1,400 Kenwood would not. Actually not surprised, more dissapointed. I bought the Pioneer because it would read anything!!! I've got single sided DVD-R's from another source, I think I'll make another prototype and head back to the store. Unfortunatly, I'll have to re-encode to get the whole movie on single side, which is what I was looking to avoid. Questions: Could the burning software have any affect? If not Nero, (5.5.6.4)what should I consider? Could it be my content? Re-authored? What else to try? Media (probably the culprit), any other sources of 2 sided DVD-R besides CD-Recordable.com? Emailed their tech support. Let's see what I get as a reply. Disks are sold as 'general purpose' Any comments, suggestions are appreciated. Roveer

19th January 2002, 20:52	#3 \| Link
Roveer Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 200	To be honest, I don't really care about the extras at all. I want just the movie and have it automatically start on disk 2 (or in my case side 2), of a dual sided dvd-r. I'm thinking this can go into a multi-changer which has flip capability. 1 movie, 2 sides, one slot in the mega-changer. What I haven't figured out yet, is if you pick one audio stream (dd5.1 vs another), how is that handled on disk 2? Maybe just provide the dd5.1 as the only audio stream? roveer