AVCHDMe: Make AVCHD folder PS3 compatible - Page 2

simbot41 · 3rd January 2009, 17:22

hey idbirch2

this tool looks to be what I have been looking for.

trying to convert my HDdvds to ps3 format without much success to date.

When you say HD audio retained, TrueHD is still limited by tsmuxer correct??

idbirch2 · 3rd January 2009, 17:39

Yes, until TSMuxer is fixed, I am using eac3to to decompress the TrueHD tracks to .PCM (you must also then run this PCM track through pcm2tsmu before TSMuxer will accept it).

simbot41 · 4th January 2009, 10:58

Cheers

Hey idbirch2

I am having no end of trouble getting my blu ray to work.

Bought Batman Begins, want to play it from HDD.

Ripped with AnyDVD HD and then tsmuxer but I retained TrueHD track. Split into 4gb chunks and use avchdme to make it ps3 compatible.

But no matter what I do it is unsupported. Is that due to TrueHD audio??

Cheers

idbirch2 · 4th January 2009, 12:02

Unsupported as in it comes up as "Unsupported Data" on the PS3? I've gone through the exact same process with Batman Begins and I also tried keeping the TrueHD track the first time. The result was video but no audio. You must use eac3to to convert the TrueHD track to PCM. Then run that PCM file through pcm2tsmu then mux the video/pcm/subs using TSMuxer.

Just to be clear, you must also place you final BDMV folder inside a folder named AVCHD on the root of your USB device (which must be FAT32).

simbot41 · 4th January 2009, 12:16

Quote:

You must use eac3to to convert the TrueHD track to PCM. Then run that PCM file through pcm2tsmu then mux the video/pcm/subs using TSMuxer

Cheers. reread initial instructions on folder so that works now.

So by using eac3to is it lossless? is there a easy GUI to do it?

Finally getting somewhere

idbirch2 · 4th January 2009, 13:08

Yes, conversion to PCM is lossless. Check out the main eac3to thread here and the eac3to wiki here for detailed usage instructions. There's a GUI for it available here.

odin24 · 4th January 2009, 15:23

Just a precautionary warning. Lately eac3to_and_more_GUI has been giving false positives on a lot of anti-virus programs.

Also with this GUI, when converting to PCM using "Eac3to Stdout" and running through Pcm2tsmu in one run, the commands for "Bits Per Sample" (-i ##), "channels" (-c #), and "Sample Rate" (-s #####) in the Eac3to Stdout tab is ignored. This could create a problem if your audio track is not any of the Pcm2tsmu defauts, 24bit, 6 channels, and 48kHz. I either copy the command line to a .txt file, edit in the ignored commands then run as a .bat file... but lately I just run everything from cmd.exe

EDIT: Unfortunatly nobody has heard from Yraen for a while to fix this small bug. If you do get a anti-virus warning please report it as a false positive to your antivirus provider.

coolalibaba · 5th January 2009, 12:24

Looks not working with my first try. It couldn't fix the file size of the second part. re-applying it again brought out an overflow error message window from fixclpi.

Edit: sorry, googled a bit and found it's a problem of fixclpi not compatible with non-ENU language OS

idbirch2 · 5th January 2009, 13:22

Oh, I didn't know that, thanks for letting us know.

On a related note, I do find that occasionally, one of the .clpi files will be locked for some reason (I blame Vista) and when that happens, the hex edits fail and everything goes wrong. Everytime this has happened, I have found that creating the BluRay structure again and re-applying AVCHDMe works fine. If I get chance I may add some sort of check to trap this condition and alert you.

It happens so rarely and randomly though that I will struggle to test it.

insaneoctane · 14th January 2009, 06:29

If I used AVCHDme to make my data PS3/AVCHD compatible, but later on (say when BD-R drop) want to burn the data back to real blu ray....what would I need to do?

idbirch2 · 14th January 2009, 09:58

If you're still managing the AVCHD drive in AVCHDManager, you would just click "AVCHDMe-undo". All it does is rename all the files back to their full names i.e .mts->.m2ts, .cpi->.clpi etc. If you're not using AVCHDManager, there's a standalone version of AVCHDMe_undo here. Just place in the root of your movie folder and run. Mediafire is down for maintenance, check back later when they've finished pissing about.

insaneoctane · 15th January 2009, 01:05

Wasn't there jdobbs' fixclpi.exe fixes that it makes so that the 4GB chunks transition smoothly?? Do those need to be fixed back?
Once the "UNDO" is done back to .xxxx extensions, it will burn and playback properly?

idbirch2 · 15th January 2009, 09:17

No, jdobbs' fixclpi.exe, which is included in AVCHDMe, fixes other issues in the .clpi file which cause ffw/rw issues. The fix for pauses at the 4gb splits is completely seperate. Once you've used 'Undo', there's no reason why that structure couldn't be burned to a DVD/BD-R. Just to be clear, the Undo function only undoes the renaming, the .clpi fixes remain intact.

odin24 · 20th January 2009, 12:32

@ idbirch2
I have a seamless branching BD rip (whole disc), there isn't a file larger than 4GB. Would AVCHDMe work on this BD... menus, features, and all? Once I can remux the main movie I will try, I was just hoping you knew.

idbirch2 · 20th January 2009, 12:38

That's a very interesting thought, I'd never considered a full BD structure with files that are all less that 4GB. I don't think AVCHDMe will work on the structure as it's looking for an AVCHD/BD hybrid structure as output from TSMuxer - this is different to a native bluray structure. Also, I suspect the PS3 won't recognise it either but please give it a try and let us know (you will need to manually rename all files to 8.3 standard as AVCHDMe won't work (I don't think!)).

edit: As long as you make a backup of you BD structure first, there's no harm trying AVCHDMe and seeing what happens...

odin24 · 20th January 2009, 12:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by idbirch2

That's a very interesting thought, I'd never considered a full BD structure with files that are all less that 4GB. I don't think AVCHDMe will work on the structure as it's looking for an AVCHD/BD hybrid structure as output from TSMuxer - this is different to a native bluray structure. Also, I suspect the PS3 won't recognise it either but please give it a try and let us know (you will need to manually rename all files to 8.3 standard as AVCHDMe won't work (I don't think!)).

edit: As long as you make a backup of you BD structure first, there's no harm trying AVCHDMe and seeing what happens...

Thanks for the fast response. I'm off to work right now, and it's going to be pretty hectic afterwards, I may not get to it for a day or two. I will though, and I'll report back.

odin24 · 21st January 2009, 02:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by odin24

Thanks for the fast response. I'm off to work right now, and it's going to be pretty hectic afterwards, I may not get to it for a day or two. I will though, and I'll report back.

It did not work. AVCHDMe renamed all but 4 files, two BDJO files and their BACKUPs.

idbirch2 · 21st January 2009, 10:39

And the PS3 doesn't recognise it when the folder is named to AVCHD?

odin24 · 21st January 2009, 19:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by idbirch2

And the PS3 doesn't recognise it when the folder is named to AVCHD?

That's correct. I renamed the BDJO files to BDJ manually.

ReciprocalUniverse · 30th January 2009, 15:23

I authored a small BDMV project with Sony DVD Architect, then used AVCHD-Patcher to make it AVCHD compliant. Lastly, I used AVCHD-me to make it compliant with the 8.3/Fat32 conventions, copied it to a USB flash drive in the AVCHD root folder as described, stuck it in the PS3 and wha-lah...It plays with full menu functionality.

Pretty nice work. Thank you!

Tom

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odin24 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: The Great North (the better half of North America) Posts: 301	Just a precautionary warning. Lately eac3to_and_more_GUI has been giving false positives on a lot of anti-virus programs. Also with this GUI, when converting to PCM using "Eac3to Stdout" and running through Pcm2tsmu in one run, the commands for "Bits Per Sample" (-i ##), "channels" (-c #), and "Sample Rate" (-s #####) in the Eac3to Stdout tab is ignored. This could create a problem if your audio track is not any of the Pcm2tsmu defauts, 24bit, 6 channels, and 48kHz. I either copy the command line to a .txt file, edit in the ignored commands then run as a .bat file... but lately I just run everything from cmd.exe EDIT: Unfortunatly nobody has heard from Yraen for a while to fix this small bug. If you do get a anti-virus warning please report it as a false positive to your antivirus provider. Last edited by odin24; 4th January 2009 at 15:26.

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coolalibaba Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: China Posts: 50	Looks not working with my first try. It couldn't fix the file size of the second part. re-applying it again brought out an overflow error message window from fixclpi. Edit: sorry, googled a bit and found it's a problem of fixclpi not compatible with non-ENU language OS Last edited by coolalibaba; 5th January 2009 at 12:36.

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ReciprocalUniverse Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 12	I authored a small BDMV project with Sony DVD Architect, then used AVCHD-Patcher to make it AVCHD compliant. Lastly, I used AVCHD-me to make it compliant with the 8.3/Fat32 conventions, copied it to a USB flash drive in the AVCHD root folder as described, stuck it in the PS3 and wha-lah...It plays with full menu functionality. Pretty nice work. Thank you! Tom Last edited by ReciprocalUniverse; 30th January 2009 at 15:29.

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3rd January 2009, 17:22	#21 \| Link
simbot41 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 15	hey idbirch2 this tool looks to be what I have been looking for. trying to convert my HDdvds to ps3 format without much success to date. When you say HD audio retained, TrueHD is still limited by tsmuxer correct??

3rd January 2009, 17:39	#22 \| Link
idbirch2 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: UK Posts: 680	Yes, until TSMuxer is fixed, I am using eac3to to decompress the TrueHD tracks to .PCM (you must also then run this PCM track through pcm2tsmu before TSMuxer will accept it).

4th January 2009, 10:58	#23 \| Link
simbot41 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 15	Cheers Hey idbirch2 I am having no end of trouble getting my blu ray to work. Bought Batman Begins, want to play it from HDD. Ripped with AnyDVD HD and then tsmuxer but I retained TrueHD track. Split into 4gb chunks and use avchdme to make it ps3 compatible. But no matter what I do it is unsupported. Is that due to TrueHD audio?? Cheers

4th January 2009, 12:02	#24 \| Link
idbirch2 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: UK Posts: 680	Unsupported as in it comes up as "Unsupported Data" on the PS3? I've gone through the exact same process with Batman Begins and I also tried keeping the TrueHD track the first time. The result was video but no audio. You must use eac3to to convert the TrueHD track to PCM. Then run that PCM file through pcm2tsmu then mux the video/pcm/subs using TSMuxer. Just to be clear, you must also place you final BDMV folder inside a folder named AVCHD on the root of your USB device (which must be FAT32).

4th January 2009, 13:08	#26 \| Link
idbirch2 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: UK Posts: 680	Yes, conversion to PCM is lossless. Check out the main eac3to thread here and the eac3to wiki here for detailed usage instructions. There's a GUI for it available here.

5th January 2009, 13:22	#29 \| Link
idbirch2 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: UK Posts: 680	Oh, I didn't know that, thanks for letting us know. On a related note, I do find that occasionally, one of the .clpi files will be locked for some reason (I blame Vista) and when that happens, the hex edits fail and everything goes wrong. Everytime this has happened, I have found that creating the BluRay structure again and re-applying AVCHDMe works fine. If I get chance I may add some sort of check to trap this condition and alert you. It happens so rarely and randomly though that I will struggle to test it.

14th January 2009, 06:29	#30 \| Link
insaneoctane Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 42	If I used AVCHDme to make my data PS3/AVCHD compatible, but later on (say when BD-R drop) want to burn the data back to real blu ray....what would I need to do?

14th January 2009, 09:58	#31 \| Link
idbirch2 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: UK Posts: 680	If you're still managing the AVCHD drive in AVCHDManager, you would just click "AVCHDMe-undo". All it does is rename all the files back to their full names i.e .mts->.m2ts, .cpi->.clpi etc. If you're not using AVCHDManager, there's a standalone version of AVCHDMe_undo here. Just place in the root of your movie folder and run. Mediafire is down for maintenance, check back later when they've finished pissing about.

15th January 2009, 01:05	#32 \| Link
insaneoctane Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 42	Wasn't there jdobbs' fixclpi.exe fixes that it makes so that the 4GB chunks transition smoothly?? Do those need to be fixed back? Once the "UNDO" is done back to .xxxx extensions, it will burn and playback properly?

15th January 2009, 09:17	#33 \| Link
idbirch2 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: UK Posts: 680	No, jdobbs' fixclpi.exe, which is included in AVCHDMe, fixes other issues in the .clpi file which cause ffw/rw issues. The fix for pauses at the 4gb splits is completely seperate. Once you've used 'Undo', there's no reason why that structure couldn't be burned to a DVD/BD-R. Just to be clear, the Undo function only undoes the renaming, the .clpi fixes remain intact.

20th January 2009, 12:32	#34 \| Link
odin24 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: The Great North (the better half of North America) Posts: 301	@ idbirch2 I have a seamless branching BD rip (whole disc), there isn't a file larger than 4GB. Would AVCHDMe work on this BD... menus, features, and all? Once I can remux the main movie I will try, I was just hoping you knew.

20th January 2009, 12:38	#35 \| Link
idbirch2 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: UK Posts: 680	That's a very interesting thought, I'd never considered a full BD structure with files that are all less that 4GB. I don't think AVCHDMe will work on the structure as it's looking for an AVCHD/BD hybrid structure as output from TSMuxer - this is different to a native bluray structure. Also, I suspect the PS3 won't recognise it either but please give it a try and let us know (you will need to manually rename all files to 8.3 standard as AVCHDMe won't work (I don't think!)). edit: As long as you make a backup of you BD structure first, there's no harm trying AVCHDMe and seeing what happens...

21st January 2009, 10:39	#38 \| Link
idbirch2 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: UK Posts: 680	And the PS3 doesn't recognise it when the folder is named to AVCHD?