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Old 19th January 2005, 08:23   #1  |  Link
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Guide: How to burn ISO images with PgcEdit ensuring 32k gaps between IFOs and BUPs

New PgcEdit guide, courtesy of Blutach:

How to burn ISO images with PgcEdit, ensuring 32k gaps between IFOs and BUPs.
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Old 19th January 2005, 08:49   #2  |  Link
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Excellent guide, blutach
I am now convinced.
PgcEdit (with ImgTools and DVDDecrypter) has become the state-of-the-art burning tool! Kudos to you guys!
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Old 19th January 2005, 09:02   #3  |  Link
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Kudos to rolz you mean.
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Old 19th January 2005, 09:05   #4  |  Link
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... and to Kujo, and to the guys who translated mkisofs to Windoze, and to LIGHTNING UK!
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Old 31st January 2005, 22:52   #5  |  Link
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First time Pgcedit user

Man, you guys must be some kinda DVD gru's. Now for the layman (me), I downloaded all the programs listed on the Pcgedit's webpage. Installed the software and WOW I'm impressed, but really confused now. I thought it was going to be a 1 click program "Wham Bam, burn it man" program.

I could probly struggle through it but reading about the program, it dosent say that it will SHRINK the program to fit a DVD-R disk. It will do lots of stuff but I could not find where it would tell me the compression percentage needed to fit on a single layer DVD.

Did I overlook something?

Do I still need DVD shrink? It also appears I will need Dycrypter also.

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Old 1st February 2005, 02:43   #6  |  Link
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Larry,

PgcEdit is not a shrinking program - although it can blank out whole titlesets (eg extras) and menu VOBs (eg warnings, promos), reducing the size of the project considerably.

VobBlanker can blank and cut the movie as you like it.

But if it is still too big, you will need either:

1. A transcoding program - like DVD Shrink - to reduce it to a single DVDR; or

2. Split the disk into 2 DVDRs

PgcEdit's new burn function is designed to take a finished project, which can already fit onto a DVDR and burn it in the least risky manner.

As a final thought, yes, you should use DVD Decrypter to decrypt your DVDs and then open them in DVD Shrink using the Open Files command (Ctrl-O). DVD Shrink simply cannot decrypt the new arccos system, and since Shrink's development is over, it never will be able to.

Hope this helps.

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Old 1st February 2005, 06:18   #7  |  Link
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Thanks for info

I reliazed that Pgcedit was not the program that I and everyone would really like to have. A trully 1 click program from start to burn.

I have ben pulling my hair out over the past 2 weeks when using dycrypter and DVD shrink. I have intermittent problems using the DVD shrink. The probelm is I can authorize the project after I dycrypt the program to my hd, when it come time to burn full back up the program quits responding and freezes. My only option at this point is to shut down the computer, restart, remove both dycrypeter and dvd shrink from my computer, restart CPU, install both programs again and 50% of the time the DVD shrink will compress the program and burn it.

If I try to shut down the DVD shrink during a lock-up, I get program not responding "end now", "cancel".

I have closed all unneeded programs before running dycrypt and shrink.

I was sorry to read that DVD shrink will not be getting anymore attention from the author of the program.

Do you know a another shrink program on the web?

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There are lots, but before ditching DVD Shrink you might want to visit their FAQs and forums.

See http://forum.digital-digest.com/show...threadid=44931

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Hi Rolz excellent guide and thanks a lot.
Maybe I'm missing the obvious here but could I burn the image created with pgcedit and msikofs (and 32k option checked of course) with Nero if I prefer to do so? The reason I ask is I'm quite happy with Nero but would of course like to maximize compatibility with standalones on burned discs ...

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I think so. Nero doesn't respect the 32K gaps if you burn the DVD files directly. But it should burn an ISO image without modifying it. However, I'm not sure Nero is better than DVD Decrypyer for the compatibility with standalones.

BTW, the thanks must go to blutach. He writed the guide, not me.
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found problem with lockups

I had experienced several lock-up issues when using DVD shrink and Nero v6.0. The problem was traced back to Nero V6.0+. After removing all nero software from my computer the DVD shrink wold work just fine. Then it struck me, DVD Shrink defaults to Nero software for the burning of the DVD. After confirming that DVD shrink was working fine, I installed Nero back on my computer system. I made sure that DVD Shrink was set up to use Nero as it's default burner. First time trying it my system locked up during the DVD shrink Backup files. I then switched the Nero default swith to OFF. Again trying to backup disk files my system locked up.
My last attempt was I again uninstalled all Nero software. Launced DVD shrink and everything work great. I had the cd/dvd sotware that came with my Compaq called Sonic, record now. I was able to burn the DVD's using this software and have been for about 2 weeks now.

I have upgraded the Nero software using the Nero's downloadable upgrades so I should have the latest and greates Nero version. Some reason there is somethink that it dosent like about my Compaq system running Windows XP, home.

I hope this helps other having troubles with Nero.

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@techniquefreak

Even Nero can burn an ISO without screwing it up.

But why bother? PgcEdit/mkisofs/DVD Decrypter is a one-click, set and forget solution and is costless.

Nero causes more trouble than it's worth.

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BTW, Sonic's Record Now should be able to burn the DVD files directly and respect the 32K gaps. I have tested Stopm's Record Now Max, and it works fine.
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Old 18th February 2005, 20:53   #14  |  Link
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OK thanks anyway for your replies. Will try and follow the recordnow route for now.

@r0lZ - allright I realize now that it's blutach who wrote the guide but then thanks for a great program then

@LARRYB have you tried emailing Nero support for further problem-solving - it might help - was thinking of doing the same think about the 32k issue in burning DVD-video files ...

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I beleive if you have Nero and recordnow both installed they conflick with each other?
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I beleive if you have Nero and recordnow both installed they conflick with each other?
I confidentially assume that r0lZ has both on the same PC and he reported no errors. This could throw that theory out.
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I have Stomp's Record Now Max trial and Nero. I have not tested Sonic's RecordNow.
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BTW, Sonic's Record Now should be able to burn the DVD files directly and respect the 32K gaps. I have tested Stopm's Record Now Max, and it works fine.
Thanks for the option in PGCEdit and for the guide.
Is there a simple way to check the correctness of the output of other burning programs?

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It's not really easy.
The simplest way I've found is to create a verry small DVD, without VIDEO_TS.VOB. (For example, a DVD with only one title with one still frame.)
Then, use the burner to create an ISO.
Open the ISO image in an hexadecimal editor, and search for "DVDVIDEO-VMG". Note the address of the first occurence. Search again, and note the address of the second occurence.
The difference between the two addresses must be 32K (32768 bytes) plus the actual size of the VIDEO_TS.IFO file.
If it's less, then your burner doesn't respect the 32K gaps.

In this case, it is also useful to verify the VTS Sectors pointers with IfoEdit. If they are equal to thoses in the original files, then the burner is really bad: it writes files not compatible with standalones. If the pointers are equel to the values saved by PgcEdit with the 32K Gap option off (or with IfoEdit's Get VTS Sectors), then the burner removes properly the 32K gaps.
The VTS Sector to verify is in the VMGM_MAT, at offset 0x0000000c (Last Sector of VMG). There are also changes in the TT_SRPTI tables (all TTUs starting bytes).
Another way to test is to burn a RW, and check it on your standalone.
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So, the steps you could take to decrypt a dvd then burn it to a dvd is as follows:
  • Decrypt it using DVD Decryptor
  • Leave at least 32k of space between IFO and BUP
  • Burn to DVD

Is the 32k step necessary? Should it be added to the steps you should take to rip a dvd? Are there any cons to doing it?

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