MuxMan 0.11 released - Page 4

LordCrew · 2nd February 2005, 23:21

I'm not sure if it has been fully implemented yet for SST....

Importing a sst and multiplexing works but if I choose 2 sst subtitles I get an error message when starting the multiplexing: "Sub stream 1 sst tv_type disagrees with video"
The video is PAL 16/9 and both WideScreen and Letterbox was selected for the subtitles.

Track 1 sst:

st_format 2
Display_Start non_forced
TV_Type PAL
Tape_Type NON_DROP
Pixel_Area (0 576)
Display_Area (0 2 719 576)
E2 (255 0 0 ===)
E1 (0 0 0 ===)
PA (0 0 255 ===)
BG (255 255 255 ===)
Directory D:\dvdproj\en

Track 2 sst

st_format 2
Display_Start non_forced
TV_Type PAL
Tape_Type NON_DROP
Pixel_Area (0 576)
Display_Area (0 2 719 576)
E2 (255 0 0 ===)
E1 (0 0 0 ===)
PA (0 0 255 ===)
BG (255 255 255 ===)
Directory D:\dvdproj\fr

and the muxman.log:

MuxMan version 0.11
Accepted video D:\dvdproj\spid.m2v size = 3747474934
Accepted audio D:\dvdproj\spid-en.ac3
Accepted audio D:\dvdproj\spid-fr.ac3
Opened sub 1 file D:\dvdproj\en\en.sst.
Pixel_Area values 0 576 are incorrect, using default of 2 574.
Display_Area Y values 2 576 are incorrect, using default of 2 574.
Opened sub 2 file D:\dvdproj\fr\fr.sst.
23:02:10 Begin multiplex.
Maximum audio duration 366748 fields.
Sub stream 1 sst tv_type disagrees with video

mpucoder · 3rd February 2005, 01:13

That was an interesting bug. The fixed version is available at the Muxman homepage

lordyu · 3rd February 2005, 16:16

I know it is still in early stage but I would love to see easier way of specifying destination folder than browsing through directory tree. Perhaps in the final version.

1. current way, 2. better way, 3. another better way
(Pics should appear soon

)

I should think it's easy to add the edit box. Thank you for the tool by the way.

TheJez · 4th February 2005, 14:35

Hi MPUCoder,

I just started working with this great tool, and noticed a tiny bug:
After multiplexing, a messagebox is showing the following info:

Multiplex completed with no video decoder buffer underflow
Average bitrate 0.
Minumum bitrate 339943 (lba 0)
Maximum bitrate 11293666 (lba 258172)

Of course, the average bitrate amazed me !

Muxman.log shows the correct result, so I guess it's just an optical glitch:

MuxMan version 0.11
Accepted video F:\The_Village\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.m2v size = 1994638092
Accepted audio F:\The_Village\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.80.ac3
Opened sub 1 file F:\The_Village\The Village.sup.
14:02:48 Begin multiplex.
Maximum audio duration 387774 fields.
14:02:48 starting video file number 1.
End of video file
Bytes remaining in buffer = 0.
14:06:06 End multiplex.
Bitrate - avg: 2742554, min: 339943 (lba 0), max: 11293666 (lba 258172).
Fields: 387780, VOBU: 12841, Sectors: 1082938.

Thanks a lot for this great tool !

TheJez

mpucoder · 4th February 2005, 15:40

Oops. Fixed for the next release.

Trahald · 4th February 2005, 20:11

seeing a weird thing with the filename for sst import.. here is part of the log

Code:

MuxMan version 0.11a
Opened sub 1 file D:\doit8\VTS02\subs\VTS_02_VSUB_P1A1-00-W\VTS_02_VSUB_P1A1-00-W-English.sst.
unable to open d:\doit8\VTS02\subs\VTS_02_VSUB_\VTS_02_VSUB_P1A1-00-W-English_0001_v001_c001.bmp, file skipped.
unable to open d:\doit8\VTS02\subs\VTS_02_VSUB_\VTS_02_VSUB_P1A1-00-W-English_0002_v001_c001.bmp, file skipped.
unable to open d:\doit8\VTS02\subs\VTS_02_VSUB_\VTS_02_VSUB_P1A1-00-W-English_0003_v001_c001.bmp, file skipped.
unable to open d:\doit8\VTS02\subs\VTS_02_VSUB_\VTS_02_VSUB_P1A1-00-W-English_0004_v001_c001.bmp, file skipped.
unable to open d:\doit8\VTS02\subs\VTS_02_VSUB_\VTS_02_VSUB_P1A1-00-W-English_0005_v001_c001.bmp, file skipped.
unable to open d:\doit8\VTS02\subs\VTS_02_VSUB_\VTS_02_VSUB_P1A1-00-W-English_0006_v001_c001.bmp, file skipped.

its truncating the vts_02_vsub_p1a1-00-w from the path when its looking for the file. i played with it a bit and oddly if i made 'subs' into 'sub' (by editing the sst not moving the file) the pathname appeared correctly in the log .. also if i named it subssssss it worked ok to.. although subss didnt work..

mpucoder · 4th February 2005, 21:39

Almost anything could have happened - the string for the directory name wasn't long enough.
New version at Muxman homepage fixes this and the average bitrate display.

bourtzovlakas · 4th February 2005, 22:43

Sorry to bring it up again,but i 've got no answer and thought i should try again,just in case it was overlooked....

Is it possible to implement IFO colors copy from the/an original IFO?
Thanks....

Trahald · 5th February 2005, 17:34

Quote:

Originally posted by mpucoder
Almost anything could have happened - the string for the directory name wasn't long enough.
New version at Muxman homepage fixes this and the average bitrate display.

Worked like a charm. thanx!

<EDIT>
For NTSCers used to scenarist. scenarist ignores the Tape_Type parameter of the .sst.. but muxman does not. so if you find your subs out of sync. make sure it reads Tape_Type DROP.. then you should have perfect sync

Tnebreux · 6th February 2005, 02:02

Hi, there!
I am new to this forum, although not quite a newbie in DVD re-authoring, and I'd like to add my thanks to MPUCoder for making Muxman available at this stage. The multiplexing part is very impressive, and it processes without glitch some material that had mplex cough up a furball.

I'd like to raise a couple of points about subtitles though:

- I have to concur with Sir Didymus earlier about the number of subtitles. Not only is 3 a bit light for some users, but it also makes it difficult to test thoroughly the use of all colors from the IFO file, since most subtitles streams (even home-made ones) use the same 4 colors for all the subtitles in the stream. This means the result of the muxing uses at most 12 colors...

- I have also noticed a problem, systematic as far as I can make out, when you mux several subtitles streams in different languages. In the resulting DVD structure, only the first subtitle stream is accessible. When you look at the IFO file, the 3 languages are listed, but they all seem to point to the same stream.
However, the bitmaps for the 3 streams are present in the .VOBs, as you can see when you generate new IFOs with IFOedit (the structure with the new IFO files works fine).

mpucoder · 6th February 2005, 04:13

I wisk I'd known about that earlier. It's fixed in the latest (0.11c) available on the Muxman homepage

As for the other matter, version 0.12, which will be released in another week possibly, has an entirely new subpicture dialog that allows up to 8 streams - and is no larger than the old dialog.

bourtzovlakas · 8th February 2005, 09:52

The .zip file of Muxman 0.11c contains an .exe file named 0.11b....
Forgot to rename it, possibly?

Ebobtron · 8th February 2005, 14:20

from the web page

Currently Muxman produces a working single title DVD from DVD compliant elementary streams. Input may be:

Video: Any DVD compliant mpeg-1 or mpeg-2 or bmp.

--------------------

Mpeg-1 video on DVD? Really, can that be done.

The Geek · 8th February 2005, 15:05

Quote:

Mpeg-1 video on DVD? Really, can that be done.

Sure. MPEG-1 352x288 (or x240 for NTSC) is included in the DVD standard.
Therefore putting VCD on DVD is rather easy, as you only need to resample the audio from 44,1 to 48 kHz, and the video goes as is.

The Geek

mpucoder · 8th February 2005, 15:39

Quote:

Originally posted by bourtzovlakas
The .zip file of Muxman 0.11c contains an .exe file named 0.11b....
Forgot to rename it, possibly?

Looks like I was in such a hurry to get the bugfix online that I did forget to change the revision - I'll fix that, but there are no new fixes.

SeeMoreDigital · 8th February 2005, 21:05

I know this is probably not the correct place to ask this, but is there a standard for muxing high-def Mpeg2 MP@HL (720p/1080i) audio and video streams onto DVD... and if so, can MuxMan incorporate such a feature?

I accept that ordinary std-def/resolution players would not be able to spin such discs and that you can only store around an hour of HD content onto an dual-layered DVD~R/RW, but I'm hoping to test a high-def/resolution player very soon and wondered if the creation of such DVD's might be possible or even playable!

Cheers

The Geek · 8th February 2005, 23:29

Quote:

is there a standard for muxing high-def Mpeg2 MP@HL (720p/1080i) audio and video streams onto DVD

Nope, there isn't. DVD Video is MP@ML only.

The Geek

SeeMoreDigital · 9th February 2005, 11:40

Quote:

Originally posted by The Geek
Nope, there isn't. DVD Video is MP@ML only.

Oh well... never mind then!

What about still images, can only 720x480 or 720x576 be used?

Cheers

mpucoder · 9th February 2005, 16:02

For now, yes (same reason as the aspect ratio - the dialog for tweaking is not ready). Any resizing has to be done with your favorite graphics program before authoring.

SeeMoreDigital · 9th February 2005, 16:57

Quote:

Originally posted by mpucoder
For now, yes (same reason as the aspect ratio - the dialog for tweaking is not ready). Any resizing has to be done with your favorite graphics program before authoring.

Thanks!

I've come across something else which I'm hoping you can provide an answer to.

I've been experimenting with the following applications to de-mux .VOB files into their separate elementary streams: -

TMPGEnc (v2.524.63.181-Free)
VOBedit (v0.6)
DGIndex (v1.1.0)

Anyway, for some reason, MuxMan will not accept audio streams de-muxed using TMPGEnc or VOBedit!

Is there any particular reason why?

Cheers

2nd February 2005, 23:21	#61 \| Link
LordCrew Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 7	I'm not sure if it has been fully implemented yet for SST.... Importing a sst and multiplexing works but if I choose 2 sst subtitles I get an error message when starting the multiplexing: "Sub stream 1 sst tv_type disagrees with video" The video is PAL 16/9 and both WideScreen and Letterbox was selected for the subtitles. Track 1 sst: st_format 2 Display_Start non_forced TV_Type PAL Tape_Type NON_DROP Pixel_Area (0 576) Display_Area (0 2 719 576) E2 (255 0 0 ===) E1 (0 0 0 ===) PA (0 0 255 ===) BG (255 255 255 ===) Directory D:\dvdproj\en Track 2 sst st_format 2 Display_Start non_forced TV_Type PAL Tape_Type NON_DROP Pixel_Area (0 576) Display_Area (0 2 719 576) E2 (255 0 0 ===) E1 (0 0 0 ===) PA (0 0 255 ===) BG (255 255 255 ===) Directory D:\dvdproj\fr and the muxman.log: MuxMan version 0.11 Accepted video D:\dvdproj\spid.m2v size = 3747474934 Accepted audio D:\dvdproj\spid-en.ac3 Accepted audio D:\dvdproj\spid-fr.ac3 Opened sub 1 file D:\dvdproj\en\en.sst. Pixel_Area values 0 576 are incorrect, using default of 2 574. Display_Area Y values 2 576 are incorrect, using default of 2 574. Opened sub 2 file D:\dvdproj\fr\fr.sst. 23:02:10 Begin multiplex. Maximum audio duration 366748 fields. Sub stream 1 sst tv_type disagrees with video Last edited by LordCrew; 2nd February 2005 at 23:24.

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lordyu Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 73	I know it is still in early stage but I would love to see easier way of specifying destination folder than browsing through directory tree. Perhaps in the final version. 1. current way, 2. better way, 3. another better way (Pics should appear soon ) I should think it's easy to add the edit box. Thank you for the tool by the way. Attached Images Last edited by lordyu; 3rd February 2005 at 16:31.

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TheJez Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 57	Tiny bug in 0.11 Hi MPUCoder, I just started working with this great tool, and noticed a tiny bug: After multiplexing, a messagebox is showing the following info: Multiplex completed with no video decoder buffer underflow Average bitrate 0. Minumum bitrate 339943 (lba 0) Maximum bitrate 11293666 (lba 258172) Of course, the average bitrate amazed me ! Muxman.log shows the correct result, so I guess it's just an optical glitch: MuxMan version 0.11 Accepted video F:\The_Village\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.m2v size = 1994638092 Accepted audio F:\The_Village\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.80.ac3 Opened sub 1 file F:\The_Village\The Village.sup. 14:02:48 Begin multiplex. Maximum audio duration 387774 fields. 14:02:48 starting video file number 1. End of video file Bytes remaining in buffer = 0. 14:06:06 End multiplex. Bitrate - avg: 2742554, min: 339943 (lba 0), max: 11293666 (lba 258172). Fields: 387780, VOBU: 12841, Sectors: 1082938. Thanks a lot for this great tool ! TheJez

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Tnebreux Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: London Posts: 1	More about subtitles Hi, there! I am new to this forum, although not quite a newbie in DVD re-authoring, and I'd like to add my thanks to MPUCoder for making Muxman available at this stage. The multiplexing part is very impressive, and it processes without glitch some material that had mplex cough up a furball. I'd like to raise a couple of points about subtitles though: - I have to concur with Sir Didymus earlier about the number of subtitles. Not only is 3 a bit light for some users, but it also makes it difficult to test thoroughly the use of all colors from the IFO file, since most subtitles streams (even home-made ones) use the same 4 colors for all the subtitles in the stream. This means the result of the muxing uses at most 12 colors... - I have also noticed a problem, systematic as far as I can make out, when you mux several subtitles streams in different languages. In the resulting DVD structure, only the first subtitle stream is accessible. When you look at the IFO file, the 3 languages are listed, but they all seem to point to the same stream. However, the bitmaps for the 3 streams are present in the .VOBs, as you can see when you generate new IFOs with IFOedit (the structure with the new IFO files works fine).

8th February 2005, 21:05	#76 \| Link
SeeMoreDigital Life looks better in HDTV Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: UK Posts: 10,009	I know this is probably not the correct place to ask this, but is there a standard for muxing high-def Mpeg2 MP@HL (720p/1080i) audio and video streams onto DVD... and if so, can MuxMan incorporate such a feature? I accept that ordinary std-def/resolution players would not be able to spin such discs and that you can only store around an hour of HD content onto an dual-layered DVD~R/RW, but I'm hoping to test a high-def/resolution player very soon and wondered if the creation of such DVD's might be possible or even playable! Cheers __________________ Still confused about anamorphic images? Then look here! \| Main Encoding Interests: Hardware device playback \| My Gear \|

3rd February 2005, 01:13	#62 \| Link
mpucoder Moderator Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 3,398	That was an interesting bug. The fixed version is available at the Muxman homepage

4th February 2005, 15:40	#65 \| Link
mpucoder Moderator Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 3,398	Oops. Fixed for the next release.

4th February 2005, 21:39	#67 \| Link
mpucoder Moderator Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 3,398	Almost anything could have happened - the string for the directory name wasn't long enough. New version at Muxman homepage fixes this and the average bitrate display.

4th February 2005, 22:43	#68 \| Link
bourtzovlakas dvd.stuff.gr moderator Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Greece Posts: 313	Sorry to bring it up again,but i 've got no answer and thought i should try again,just in case it was overlooked.... Is it possible to implement IFO colors copy from the/an original IFO? Thanks....

6th February 2005, 04:13	#71 \| Link
mpucoder Moderator Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 3,398	I wisk I'd known about that earlier. It's fixed in the latest (0.11c) available on the Muxman homepage As for the other matter, version 0.12, which will be released in another week possibly, has an entirely new subpicture dialog that allows up to 8 streams - and is no larger than the old dialog.

8th February 2005, 09:52	#72 \| Link
bourtzovlakas dvd.stuff.gr moderator Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Greece Posts: 313	The .zip file of Muxman 0.11c contains an .exe file named 0.11b.... Forgot to rename it, possibly?

8th February 2005, 14:20	#73 \| Link
Ebobtron Errant Knight Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: St Louis, M0 US Posts: 364	from the web page Currently Muxman produces a working single title DVD from DVD compliant elementary streams. Input may be: Video: Any DVD compliant mpeg-1 or mpeg-2 or bmp. -------------------- Mpeg-1 video on DVD? Really, can that be done.

9th February 2005, 16:02	#79 \| Link
mpucoder Moderator Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 3,398	For now, yes (same reason as the aspect ratio - the dialog for tweaking is not ready). Any resizing has to be done with your favorite graphics program before authoring.

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