12-14-04 on2compI gui update....see post.

C0mPr355 · 19th November 2004, 19:21

Hello all,

we are nearing completion of a possible software release of our gui On2CompI. However, as there are only a limited number of testers in the offices here we are looking for those who would like to beta test the gui themselves. Please if you would send me a private message with your email addresses that you wish to receive correspondance on this subject. I am anticipating to have the beta out for you guys within the next two weeks...and will update this thread and/or your private messages letting you know it is ready for the get go.

Thanks guys,

c0mp

*** Just posted the newest version on the site for you guys that are testing. Took some things into heart and put them into use. Still many things to go (fixes, suggestions, etc) I will also email all of you to let you know about the new version.

slavickas · 20th November 2004, 03:16

Hi, what's output format, avi? Can You give more details about it

Selur · 20th November 2004, 09:29

testing stuff is always nice

Cu Selur

Razorblade2000 · 20th November 2004, 12:57

woohooo

Testing :P

C0mPr355 · 22nd November 2004, 21:13

As of right now the output format can be either .avi or .vp6 (meaning it is using the vp62 codec). We are still not done readying it up for you guys to mess with. Like I said within a week or so...so since my last post hopefully this week before thanksgiving vacation.

Once it is ready I will send you all private messages notifying where you can obtain your copy etc.

I will also attempt to elaborate to you all on the settings, acceptable formats, etc.

keep your eyes peeled on your inbox.

c0mp

RadicalEd · 23rd November 2004, 00:03

Will it be more advanced at all than the vfw interface? I'll bite if it will be good for quality testing as well as just the intended usability testing.

C0mPr355 · 23rd November 2004, 16:47

Realesed for Testing TODAY! I will be sending you all private messages today on how to obtain your copy of it to test out.

As always I will ask you all to keep this as professional as possible with regards to comments/criticisms.

Included within the directory for you all is the on2compI beta exe and the truecast server admin exe. I have included the truecast server (which can be obtained from our site as well) for you all to test the realtime capture/compressability within on2compI specifically with different types of capture cards. As of note It is very difficult being such a small company to test every brand of capture card out there for realtime tests....so please if you have any experience with this send me information to the correct places.

As far as accepted input sources from capture card On2CompI can use either the DV interface or the Video For Windows (VFW). The card must support uncompressed video in either YV12 or I420 format.

For file based sources the above formats apply as well as RGB (which at this time is less stable than YV12 or I420).

******On2CompI cannot output WMV, Divx, etc etc. It is only able to output on2 vp6 proprietary format so keep that in mind. The input sources also cannot be a recompress from wmv, divx, etc. etc. unless of course you convert the file to a raw avi and then run it through on2compi...but by that time what would be the point.

I will attempt to address as many problems and/or log as many errors etc as I can via either email or in this thread.

Good luck all and thank you very much for this help =)

c0mp

Selur · 23rd November 2004, 18:58

here my first thoughts:

- autorefresh of the Input/Output views after one resizes the window would be better

- the input and output window should always be resized so that one sees the whole 'picture' and not just a fraction of it, if the window isn't big enough

- if one changes something in the Frame PreProcessing Options and Preview is enabled, it should automaticly refresh (it's a pain to allways press the 'Refresh'-button)

- it should be easier to access the Frame Preprocessing option, instead of the one Session button it might be better to add a button for the Source, Stream PreProcessing, Frame Preprocessing etc.

- would be cool if a 'marked' section would somhow be highlightened and if one could cut out a section (e.g. to remove commercials)

- for two pass encoding would be nice if one could select a target size instead of a target bitrate

Cu Selur

Sharktooth · 24th November 2004, 14:30

Uhm... maybe a PM is better...

Selur · 24th November 2004, 16:19

"maybe a PM is better..."
=> send my post to C0mPr355 as PM now

Cu Selur

C0mPr355 · 24th November 2004, 17:57

Actually even better than PM would be to send me an email directly to the email addy I put in your PM's

reason for this is I have my email open all the time, thus I can respond faster and/or read your updates on progress, thoughts, bugs, etc.

c0mp

Sharktooth · 24th November 2004, 19:28

Ok, next time i will send an email.
In the meanwhile check your PM

Selur · 26th November 2004, 10:12

okay, though it would be nice if the rest could also psot their thoughts here so one knows what the rest of the testers think.

Cu Selur

C0mPr355 · 30th November 2004, 21:31

To those who are testing the gui please check your inbox for new information regarding the testing of our java on2comp gui software.

bond · 30th November 2004, 22:58

nice to see that more and more commercial coding technologies developer discover doom9's high class community

Sharktooth · 1st December 2004, 14:05

EDIT: ok, i received the email...

C0mPr355 · 14th December 2004, 16:52

guys I am going to post a new version of the on2compI on the server again. This one should address many of the issues that you had with it recently. We are still looking into other bugs and as things get better will release newer versions for you guys to test.

Sharktooth · 14th December 2004, 16:54

Have you thought about the things in my last email?

the Mad Duke · 16th December 2004, 19:13

So, now that it is released, what did you testers thnk of it?

Razorblade2000 · 16th December 2004, 19:15

I'd like to have a cute little changelog

19th November 2004, 19:21	#1 \| Link
C0mPr355 On2 dungeon crawler Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: NY Posts: 78	12-14-04 on2compI gui update....see post. Hello all, we are nearing completion of a possible software release of our gui On2CompI. However, as there are only a limited number of testers in the offices here we are looking for those who would like to beta test the gui themselves. Please if you would send me a private message with your email addresses that you wish to receive correspondance on this subject. I am anticipating to have the beta out for you guys within the next two weeks...and will update this thread and/or your private messages letting you know it is ready for the get go. Thanks guys, c0mp *** Just posted the newest version on the site for you guys that are testing. Took some things into heart and put them into use. Still many things to go (fixes, suggestions, etc) I will also email all of you to let you know about the new version. __________________ I know nuhtzing! Last edited by C0mPr355; 14th December 2004 at 16:54.

22nd November 2004, 21:13	#5 \| Link
C0mPr355 On2 dungeon crawler Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: NY Posts: 78	As of right now the output format can be either .avi or .vp6 (meaning it is using the vp62 codec). We are still not done readying it up for you guys to mess with. Like I said within a week or so...so since my last post hopefully this week before thanksgiving vacation. Once it is ready I will send you all private messages notifying where you can obtain your copy etc. I will also attempt to elaborate to you all on the settings, acceptable formats, etc. keep your eyes peeled on your inbox. c0mp __________________ I know nuhtzing!

23rd November 2004, 16:47	#7 \| Link
C0mPr355 On2 dungeon crawler Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: NY Posts: 78	Realesed for Testing TODAY! I will be sending you all private messages today on how to obtain your copy of it to test out. As always I will ask you all to keep this as professional as possible with regards to comments/criticisms. Included within the directory for you all is the on2compI beta exe and the truecast server admin exe. I have included the truecast server (which can be obtained from our site as well) for you all to test the realtime capture/compressability within on2compI specifically with different types of capture cards. As of note It is very difficult being such a small company to test every brand of capture card out there for realtime tests....so please if you have any experience with this send me information to the correct places. As far as accepted input sources from capture card On2CompI can use either the DV interface or the Video For Windows (VFW). The card must support uncompressed video in either YV12 or I420 format. For file based sources the above formats apply as well as RGB (which at this time is less stable than YV12 or I420). *****On2CompI cannot output WMV, Divx, etc etc. It is only able to output on2 vp6 proprietary format so keep that in mind. The input sources also cannot be a recompress from wmv, divx, etc. etc. unless of course you convert the file to a raw avi and then run it through on2compi...but by that time what would be the point. I will attempt to address as many problems and/or log as many errors etc as I can via either email or in this thread. Good luck all and thank you very much for this help =) c0mp __________________ I know nuhtzing! Last edited by C0mPr355; 29th November 2004 at 19:32.*

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Sharktooth Mr. Sandman Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Haddonfield, IL Posts: 11,768	Uhm... maybe a PM is better... __________________ MPEG-4 ASP Custom Matrices: EQM V1(old), EQM AutoGK Sharpmatrix (aka EQM V2), EQM V3HR (updated 01/10/2004), EQM V3LR, EQM V3ULR (updated 04/02/2005), EQM V3UHR (updated 17/12/2004) and EQM V3EHR (updated 05/10/2004) Info about my ASP matrices. MPEG-4 AVC Custom Matrices: EQM AVC-HR Info about my AVC matrices My x264 builds. Mooo!!!

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C0mPr355 On2 dungeon crawler Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: NY Posts: 78	Actually even better than PM would be to send me an email directly to the email addy I put in your PM's reason for this is I have my email open all the time, thus I can respond faster and/or read your updates on progress, thoughts, bugs, etc. c0mp __________________ I know nuhtzing!

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slavickas I'm Shpongled Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lithuania Posts: 303	Hi, what's output format, avi? Can You give more details about it

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Selur Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 7,277	testing stuff is always nice Cu Selur

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Razorblade2000 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 314	woohooo Testing :P

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RadicalEd Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 987	Will it be more advanced at all than the vfw interface? I'll bite if it will be good for quality testing as well as just the intended usability testing.

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Selur Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 7,277	here my first thoughts: - autorefresh of the Input/Output views after one resizes the window would be better - the input and output window should always be resized so that one sees the whole 'picture' and not just a fraction of it, if the window isn't big enough - if one changes something in the Frame PreProcessing Options and Preview is enabled, it should automaticly refresh (it's a pain to allways press the 'Refresh'-button) - it should be easier to access the Frame Preprocessing option, instead of the one Session button it might be better to add a button for the Source, Stream PreProcessing, Frame Preprocessing etc. - would be cool if a 'marked' section would somhow be highlightened and if one could cut out a section (e.g. to remove commercials) - for two pass encoding would be nice if one could select a target size instead of a target bitrate Cu Selur

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Selur Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 7,277	"maybe a PM is better..." => send my post to C0mPr355 as PM now Cu Selur

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Sharktooth Mr. Sandman Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Haddonfield, IL Posts: 11,768	Ok, next time i will send an email. In the meanwhile check your PM __________________ MPEG-4 ASP Custom Matrices: EQM V1(old), EQM AutoGK Sharpmatrix (aka EQM V2), EQM V3HR (updated 01/10/2004), EQM V3LR, EQM V3ULR (updated 04/02/2005), EQM V3UHR (updated 17/12/2004) and EQM V3EHR (updated 05/10/2004) Info about my ASP matrices. MPEG-4 AVC Custom Matrices: EQM AVC-HR Info about my AVC matrices My x264 builds. Mooo!!! Last edited by Sharktooth; 26th November 2004 at 13:09.

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Selur Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 7,277	okay, though it would be nice if the rest could also psot their thoughts here so one knows what the rest of the testers think. Cu Selur

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C0mPr355 On2 dungeon crawler Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: NY Posts: 78	To those who are testing the gui please check your inbox for new information regarding the testing of our java on2comp gui software. __________________ I know nuhtzing!

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Sharktooth Mr. Sandman Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Haddonfield, IL Posts: 11,768	EDIT: ok, i received the email... __________________ MPEG-4 ASP Custom Matrices: EQM V1(old), EQM AutoGK Sharpmatrix (aka EQM V2), EQM V3HR (updated 01/10/2004), EQM V3LR, EQM V3ULR (updated 04/02/2005), EQM V3UHR (updated 17/12/2004) and EQM V3EHR (updated 05/10/2004) Info about my ASP matrices. MPEG-4 AVC Custom Matrices: EQM AVC-HR Info about my AVC matrices My x264 builds. Mooo!!!

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C0mPr355 On2 dungeon crawler Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: NY Posts: 78	guys I am going to post a new version of the on2compI on the server again. This one should address many of the issues that you had with it recently. We are still looking into other bugs and as things get better will release newer versions for you guys to test. __________________ I know nuhtzing!

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Sharktooth Mr. Sandman Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Haddonfield, IL Posts: 11,768	Have you thought about the things in my last email? __________________ MPEG-4 ASP Custom Matrices: EQM V1(old), EQM AutoGK Sharpmatrix (aka EQM V2), EQM V3HR (updated 01/10/2004), EQM V3LR, EQM V3ULR (updated 04/02/2005), EQM V3UHR (updated 17/12/2004) and EQM V3EHR (updated 05/10/2004) Info about my ASP matrices. MPEG-4 AVC Custom Matrices: EQM AVC-HR Info about my AVC matrices My x264 builds. Mooo!!!

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the Mad Duke Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 41	So, now that it is released, what did you testers thnk of it?

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Razorblade2000 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 314	I'd like to have a cute little changelog