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Old 2nd December 2004, 13:09   #161  |  Link
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Replacing titles in PgcEdit

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This may seem like a silly question , but can PgcEdit substitute one set of VOBs for another?

E.g. I want to keep a modified version of a certain extra (or even the movie itself), without importing the title (which I know PgcEdit can do). In other words, I want to replace the title's VOBs with new ones, keeping the disk's structure intact.

I realize I can't simply swap the VOBs over as there are nav packs and chapter times to take care of.

Is this something I can do in PgcEdit or do I need DVD-ReMake?

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Old 2nd December 2004, 13:09   #162  |  Link
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Well, it's not easy to do. As you said, if you simply deleted the substream definitions, all references to the subtitles must be changed in the IFOs, and in the menu buttons (and the latter is still not possible to do with PgcEdit.)

Also, you may try this trick.
Suppose you have stripped subpic 0 and 1, and kept 2 and 3.
You can use the Domain Stream Attributes editor in PgcEdit to set subpic 0 to be the same language and mode as subpic 2, and do the same for subpic 1 and 3.
Then, you have to remap the streams in the PGC Editor, again by copying the stream numbers from subpic 2 to 0, and 3 to 1.
This way, the VM commands referencing subpic 2 and 3 will still work, but you will be able to select a valid subpic 0 and 1.
Of course, the subpics will be duplicated.

If it is unacceptable for you, you may try to use the subpic remapping feature of DVDShrink. But I can't be of more help. I don't know how it works exactly. There are thread around on that subject.

Good luck!
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Old 2nd December 2004, 13:17   #163  |  Link
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Humm. I really don't know. I have never tried that. But, if the structure of the titleset is not changed, you may try to substitute the whole titleset, including the IFOs. Then, load and save the DVD to fix the VTS Sector pointers. Since all pointers and references to the VOBs are in the IFOs of the same VTS, I think it must work.
Of course, if there are not the same number of PGCs, or if the stream attributes are not identical, you may experience some problems.
Try it, and let us know if it worked.
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Old 2nd December 2004, 13:17   #164  |  Link
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Ok, thanks for your answer.

But it is correct then that setting the subtitle streams to "none" in the PGC-editor of PgcEdit doesn't really change anything in the playback of the PGC? And this is because there needs to be other things done to the .IFOs, which PgcEdit can't do at the moment?

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I know you're thinking of/working on adding a menu buttons editing feature to PgcEdit. If such a feature is implemented some day, maybe it would be possible to do a macro which can do the job I described with remapping some selected streams and editing the menu buttons (changing the stream numbers) accordingly?

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Old 2nd December 2004, 13:24   #165  |  Link
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If you set the subpic streams to none, you will still be able to select the subpic, but nothing should be displayed (or the first valid subtitle will be? - I really don't know.)

And yes, there is no support for now to delete a stream. The problem of deleting something (a stream, a PGC, a whole titleset...) is always the same: you will have to fix all references to the elements following the deleted element. That's really not easy to automate.
And I don't want to allow the user to delete something when this could lead to an unplayable DVD.
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Old 2nd December 2004, 13:31   #166  |  Link
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It is the first valid subtitle stream that is shown instead. At least in my software player (Media Player Classic) when I tested this procedure yesterday.

When playing around with IfoEdit and DVDShrink trying to find the right way of doing the job manually, it's a bit of hassle that those software players don't always react on the disc the way my standalone SONY player does when I burn the disc!
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Yes, there are MANY differences between the software players, and my standalone (also a Sony), or my KISS (a standalone running Linux.)

I have made a lot of tests when I writed the Trace functions, and I can say that the only good test to know if a DVD will be played correctly on your standalone is to burn a DVD+/-RW.
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Old 2nd December 2004, 13:57   #168  |  Link
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New beta available

New beta available (Windows standalone only).

I will still try to fix some little problems before releasing the final version:
- When the Preview window is closed, the focus doesn't come back to PgcEdit's main window automatically.
- It is difficult to stop the trace when Preview is opened in foreground mode (with a pause < 1 second)

This beta fixes the issue when Preview was launched by the Trace, or in the PGC Editor.
See the history in the help menu to see the other changes.

@2COOL: I have changed the display in the watch input language code and button number, and added an usage count in the same window.
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But, if the structure of the titleset is not changed, you may try to substitute the whole titleset, including the IFOs.
Unfortunately, rolz, I may need to keep the IFO that is associated with the titleset - won't it have all the chapter and stream information etc in it (I suppose that I could replicate the commands and PGCs in the IFO but the rest would be a challenge, no?)
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Re: New beta available

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Does this version fix the "PGC still time not set to 0" issue?
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Just a little qustion: Are there any plans for Preview in the Linux version of PGCEdit?
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Just a little qustion: Are there any plans for Preview in the Linux version of PGCEdit?
I know that r0lZ would love that to be the case! Unfortunately, the code pgcedit uses for previewing (the DVD2AVI source code) relies heavily (and in many many places) on windows-specific calls (for example the graphic calls to Direct Draw, thread calls, and on top of that windows messages - used in the heart of the decoder!!!). Add to that that the preview "dialog" application is also windows specific, it won't be very easy to write a linux version of it...
That's really unfortunate (especially that the guys who wrote DVD2AVI didn't try to separate platform-independ code from the rest)... Maybe some linux expert can give it a shot?!
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Re: Re: New beta available

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Does this version fix the "PGC still time not set to 0" issue?
Yes.
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Request: Auto jump to "OK" button

@rolz,

When blanking titles and menus, is it possible to have the cursor automatically highlight the OK button, so we don't need to always move it and click? This would enable the user to simply click or even hit "enter" on the keyboard to OK the task.

Or is this something tk doesn't allow?

Thanks in anticipation.

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Re: Request: Auto jump to "OK" button

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When blanking titles and menus, is it possible to have the cursor automatically highlight the OK button, so we don't need to always move it and click? This would enable the user to simply click or even hit "enter" on the keyboard to OK the task.
Done.
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rolz,

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new beta

New beta 6 available.
Should be the last beta.
If someone find a bug, please submit it as soon as possible. I will release the 0.4.4 final tomorrow (Brussels time.)
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@rolz - beta 6

Although the OK box is highlighted with a dotted line, neither the enter key works and the cursor is not in the OK box.

I am using the right click menu to blank PGCs. Would this be a problem?

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Re: New beta available

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@2COOL: I have changed the display in the watch input language code and button number, and added an usage count in the same window.
Thanks r0lZ! It's much cleaner too.
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I know your Menu Buttons dialog takes snapshots but is it possible to implement a slide bar of sorts inside it so that we can scroll the sectors? Here's a starting sector of my example menu. My start sector is 0 but my actual sector (LBA) that I would see any kind of visual is at 247.



Note: DVD Remake can scroll the sector while having the button outlines showing.
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