PgcEdit v0.4 - Page 21

jsoto · 8th January 2005, 00:00

Quote:

Originally posted by blutach
VB placed a type 10 in 2nd last cell and a 2 in the last (cut) cell.
Strange thing:

Low end player - no problems (but it will play anything except football).

High end player - when playing and came to 2nd last cell, just stopped. Needed to press Next Chapter button on remote to restart it. Took out the 10, made it 8 and no problems. Note: I could skip with chapter skip buttons no problems and if I entered the 2nd last cell via the chapter selection menu, again, no problems with playback.

Yes, really strange.... VobBlanker changes celltype to 2 but not to 10...
When cutting, all blanked cells are marked as type 2, and the cells in the edge are also marked as type 2. At least, this is the intention...

jsoto

jsoto · 8th January 2005, 00:01

Quote:

Originally posted by r0lZ
OK. Thanks. I'll make some tests on my Sony...

@jsoto: what do you think?

I'm absolutely lost.

jsoto

r0lZ · 8th January 2005, 16:19

PgcEdit 0.4.7 released.

New "Delete Last PGC in Domain" utility to remove the last PGC of the LUs in the current menu domain, or the last PGC of the current title domain. In title domain, the last PGC must be the last TTN of the titleset and the last Title in the DVD.
Added a check for incorrect number of VOB IDs in the VTS_C_ADT table as a workaround for a DVDShrink bug in reauthor mode (number of VOB IDs saved in the table is always 1).
As a SPRM cannot be used as the first operand of the IF comparison, the SPRM option has been removed from the GUI of the command ediror. Also, a command with a "if ( sprm(x) ... )" will now generate an ILLEGAL SPRM warning.
Show Menu Buttons did not work when there were no buttons in the first cell of the PGC.
PgcEdit Preview v 1.5: Fixed a rare problem where preview was displaying black frames instead of the video.

selyb · 8th January 2005, 23:35

on right click context menu: can you have it react to mouseup instead of mousedown?
every time i right click, it chooses the item under the mouse before i can let go of the mouse button

also, i created a custom tool

every time i close MPC from using this, i get this error:

r0lZ · 9th January 2005, 11:46

As far as I know, the popup menus are designed to react to mouseup. There are two methods for selection a menu item.
Method 1:
1) right click: the menu pops up.
2) move the mouse over the item you want to select.
3) release the button: the item is selected and the menu closed.
Method 2:
1) right click: the menu pops up.
2) release the button without moving the mouse: the menu is still opened.
3) move the mouse over the item you want to select
4) click with either the right or left button
5) release the button: the item is selected and the menu closed.
At least, the popup menu works this way on my Win XP.
Method 2 doesn't work on Linux platforms.
Anyway, I can't change that. Popup menus are generated automatically by Tcl/Tk.

What is MPC? Media Player Classic? It works on my WinXP with the arguments you use, but it is called mplayerc.exe.
The error messages comes from MPC, not directly from PgcEdit.
Maybe the app doesn't find a file it needs to operate properly.
Try to use "%p\VIDEO_TS.IFO" (with the quotes) in the arguments field, and %a in the working folder field.
Also, you may enable the "Ask confirmation" checkbox. You will see the command line used to launch the tool. Then, open a DOS Prompt, and type in exactly the same command. See if you have the same error message. Change the DOS command until it works. When it's OK, try to reproduce exactly the same arguments in PgcEdit.

selyb · 9th January 2005, 19:03

mpc is in fact media player classic
i renamed the exe
it plays the movie just fine
it isnt until after i close mpc that i get the error message
i checked taskmgr to see if MPC was waiting to die until after the error message was gone and it is not
not sure if this makes a difference...
anyway, i tried your suggestion and there is no change
im running WinXP Pro SP2 and PGCEdit .4.7
PGCEdit.exe resides @ E:\Programs\Authoring\
MPC.exe resides @ E:\Programs\MPC\

i tried changing mpc.exe to mplayerc.exe
i also checked 'display application output'
no change
using the test button from the configure tools dialog has the same effect

i understand about not being able to change the mouseup thing

tested and confirmed, when i click the mouse button and hold it down, it does not execute the menu item
i can hold the mouse button down, browse to a menu item, release the button, and it executes the item
its a little weird to get used to but at least i have a workaround to not execute the item on the list the cursor just happened to be hovering

r0lZ · 9th January 2005, 19:08

Glad you can now use the popup menus.

For MPC, I really don't understand. I have exactly the same configuration (XP Pro SP2) and it works fine.

selyb · 9th January 2005, 19:10

I just learned that if i use the tool item then close MPC before it actually opens the dvd files, it does not give me the error

selyb · 9th January 2005, 19:27

i also tried taking the command line generated by pgcedit (displayed if you opt to confirm before using the tool) and it did not give me any error

r0lZ · 9th January 2005, 19:41

Quote:

Originally posted by selyb
I just learned that if i use the tool item then close MPC before it actually opens the dvd files, it does not give me the error

So the problem might be coming from the DVD wou try to play. Have you tried another one (preferably without any reauthoring)?

selyb · 9th January 2005, 21:24

ive tested it on probably 20 different sets of files

2COOL · 10th January 2005, 07:01

@r0lZ

You and I both know that a dummy PGC is without cells (media elements) and should only contain pre commands, with at least one Jump/Link/Call command.

Let me give you an example of what I'm leading to. From Hero (region 1)...

Only my FBI warnings reside in this PGC. When I chose to do a Delete Playback on this in IfoEdit and view my results in PgcEdit, I have this now.

It's now a dummy PGC but its PGC Command table hasn't changed. Going to back to what I mentioned earlier, a dummy PGC shouldn't have post commands.

Also, when I do a trace now, I get this when I'm in this command table.

Cell 4? I had only 2 to begin with. Anyways, I've played my files in IfoEdit and PowerDVD with success and also with playing my burnt backup on 2 standalones.

I'm a little confused at the moment because the IFO says there is no Programs and Cells but at the same time we have a existing post command that works. Is it truly a dummy PGC?

EDIT: I think if PgcEdit could detect existing post commands and no program/cells, it should to an automatic kill playback to bring it closer our description of a dummy PGC.

r0lZ · 10th January 2005, 10:40

Cell 4: Probably the calling command was something like LinkCN 4. Just wondering why it is so if the original PGC had only 2 cells. Could you verify that with the new "Go to Calling Command" function, or with the Trace's log? Unfortunately, my Hero (cheap edition, region 2) is not the same structure. I don't have a menu in VMGM, LU 1, 2.

Dummy PGCs: Maybe I have to remove the warning. I've already found some original dummy PGCs without pre commands, but with post commands. Seems to work perfectly.
Also, it is difficult to test this situation outside of the Trace function. If you have pre and post commands, it may be because you killed the PGC playback, and asked to remove the cells as well.

r0lZ · 10th January 2005, 11:06

@selyb:
Well. I have searched google for "No accelerated IMDCT transform found". Seems this message comes from liba52, a library widely used by AC3 decoders, mainly in the Linux world. But some Windows players, like VLC (aka VideoLan, for Linux and Windows) use this library.
Maybe you have installed a DVD player or AC3 codec using liba52, and that the installed codec is used by MPC to play AC3 streams.
Also, you should have a look at the configuration of the audio speakers (Control Panel -> Sounds and Audio Devices -> Volume tab -> Speaker settings -> Advanced). Seems that this error is only occuring when AC3 is decoded for a 5.1 system, and does not occur when it is decoded as stereo.

When PgcEdit launch an external app via the Tool menu, it tests the return code of the application. If it is non-zero, then it display the error message (if any) returned by the application in stdout or stderr. This is why you can see the error message in PgcEdit, but not when launching the app 'normally'.

Do you have the problem when trying to play a DVD with AC3 audio? Do you hear the sound?

Do you have the same problem if you launch another player (say M$ Media Player) the same way?

blutach · 10th January 2005, 11:08

Quote:

Originally posted by r0lZ
Dummy PGCs: Maybe I have to remove the warning. I've already found some original dummy PGCs without pre commands, but with post commands. Seems to work perfectly.

Agree -- I have plenty of DVDs in R4 with this and they seem to play OK.

r0lZ · 10th January 2005, 11:12

Quote:

Originally posted by blutach
Agree -- I have plenty of DVDs in R4 with this and they seem to play OK.

However, I wonder if, for example, a LinkCN to a specific cell which doesn't exists anymore may work. I will make some tests...

blutach · 10th January 2005, 14:27

@rolz

Please refer to this 2COOL guide on how to correct IFOs after streams have been stripped.

Is there any easy way to do this in PgcEdit?

Regards

r0lZ · 10th January 2005, 15:05

It is possible to remap the streams (the stream status stuff) in the PGC Editor. Setting the stream status to 0 in IfoEdit is the same as selecting Disable in the stream setup dialog in PgcEdit.
So, for every stream status set to 0 in the method 1 guide, all you have to do is to click on the stream button, and select disable. The button will be marked with "none".

It is also possible to change the stream language code in the Domain Stream Attributes dialog. However, it is not possible to remove a stream completely in this dialog, therefore, the 2COOL's method 2 (the consecutive method) is not usable with PgcEdit alone.

jsoto · 10th January 2005, 18:21

Hi guys,
Be careful with the non-consecutive method.... Although the VM commands to activate the audio/sub will work properly (so the menu buttons will work), I've found some strange behaviors when selecting (in a cyclic way) the streams from the remote during the playback: not all the players support non-consecutive streams... If you have your VOB in this situation, may be it is better to keep active all the streams in the PGC...

jsoto

2COOL · 10th January 2005, 18:25

Quote:

Originally posted by r0lZ
Cell 4: Probably the calling command was something like LinkCN 4. Just wondering why it is so if the original PGC had only 2 cells. Could you verify that with the new "Go to Calling Command" function, or with the Trace's log? Unfortunately, my Hero (cheap edition, region 2) is not the same structure. I don't have a menu in VMGM, LU 1, 2.

Code:

VMGM , LU 1 (en) , 2  (0:01)  2b. - Chapters: n/a,  Programs: 2,  Cells: 2 

********** pre commands:
********** post commands:
[00 03 00 00 00 00 04 03]   1  (SetTmpPML) Set parental level =(mov) 4, Goto line 3 
[20 06 00 00 00 00 00 02]   2  LinkPGN Program 2 
[20 04 00 00 00 00 00 03]   3  LinkPGCN PGC 3 
********** cell commands:

VMGM , LU 1 (en) , 10  (0:03) - Chapters: n/a,  Programs: 1,  Cells: 1 

********** pre commands:
[61 00 00 00 00 8D 00 00]   1  Set gprm(0) =(mov) sprm(13:Parental level) 
[00 C1 00 00 00 04 00 04]   2  if ( gprm(0) >= 4 ) then { Goto line 4 } 
[20 04 00 00 00 00 00 02]   3  LinkPGCN PGC 2 
[20 04 00 00 00 00 00 03]   4  LinkPGCN PGC 3 
********** post commands:
[61 00 00 00 00 8D 00 00]   1  Set gprm(0) =(mov) sprm(13:Parental level) 
[00 C1 00 00 00 04 00 04]   2  if ( gprm(0) >= 4 ) then { Goto line 4 } 
[20 04 00 00 00 00 00 02]   3  LinkPGCN PGC 2 
[20 04 00 00 00 00 00 03]   4  LinkPGCN PGC 3 
********** cell commands:

Update: I must've been tired late last night but I have a correction to make. I don't have cell 4 playing but cell 1. Sorry.

And my calling command was from VMGM , LU 1 (en) , 10 (pre command 4).

Code:

DVD inserted: "G:\Hero\VIDEO_TS"
DVD inserted: ""; Provider: 
DVD inserted: Resetting all GPRMs to 0.
DVD inserted: Initializing the SPRMs to default/setup values.
------> Entering VMG , First-Play PGC
  -- pre 1 : Set gprm(6) =(mov) 100
	-> gprm(6) = 100 (0x0064)
  -- pre 2 : (JumpSS) Jump to VMGM PGC 10
------> Entering VMGM , LU 1 (en) , 10  (0:03)
  -- pre 1 : Set gprm(0) =(mov) sprm(13:Parental level)
	-> gprm(0) = 15 (0x000F)
  -- pre 2 : if ( gprm(0) >= 4 ) then { Goto line 4 }
	if ( 15 >= 4 ) : true.
  -- pre 4 : LinkPGCN PGC 3
------> Entering VMGM , LU 1 (en) , 3  (dummy)
******* Start playback VMGM , LU 1 (en) , 3  (dummy)...
####### WARNING: Trying to play cell 1 of a dummy PGC!

8th January 2005, 16:19	#403 \| Link
r0lZ PgcEdit daemon Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 7,469	PgcEdit 0.4.7 PgcEdit 0.4.7 released. New "Delete Last PGC in Domain" utility to remove the last PGC of the LUs in the current menu domain, or the last PGC of the current title domain. In title domain, the last PGC must be the last TTN of the titleset and the last Title in the DVD. Added a check for incorrect number of VOB IDs in the VTS_C_ADT table as a workaround for a DVDShrink bug in reauthor mode (number of VOB IDs saved in the table is always 1). As a SPRM cannot be used as the first operand of the IF comparison, the SPRM option has been removed from the GUI of the command ediror. Also, a command with a "if ( sprm(x) ... )" will now generate an ILLEGAL SPRM warning. Show Menu Buttons did not work when there were no buttons in the first cell of the PGC. PgcEdit Preview v 1.5: Fixed a rare problem where preview was displaying black frames instead of the video. __________________ r0lZ PgcEdit homepage (hosted by VideoHelp) BD3D2MK3D A tool to convert 3D blu-rays to SBS, T&B or FS MKV

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r0lZ PgcEdit daemon Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 7,469	As far as I know, the popup menus are designed to react to mouseup. There are two methods for selection a menu item. Method 1: 1) right click: the menu pops up. 2) move the mouse over the item you want to select. 3) release the button: the item is selected and the menu closed. Method 2: 1) right click: the menu pops up. 2) release the button without moving the mouse: the menu is still opened. 3) move the mouse over the item you want to select 4) click with either the right or left button 5) release the button: the item is selected and the menu closed. At least, the popup menu works this way on my Win XP. Method 2 doesn't work on Linux platforms. Anyway, I can't change that. Popup menus are generated automatically by Tcl/Tk. What is MPC? Media Player Classic? It works on my WinXP with the arguments you use, but it is called mplayerc.exe. The error messages comes from MPC, not directly from PgcEdit. Maybe the app doesn't find a file it needs to operate properly. Try to use "%p\VIDEO_TS.IFO" (with the quotes) in the arguments field, and %a in the working folder field. Also, you may enable the "Ask confirmation" checkbox. You will see the command line used to launch the tool. Then, open a DOS Prompt, and type in exactly the same command. See if you have the same error message. Change the DOS command until it works. When it's OK, try to reproduce exactly the same arguments in PgcEdit. __________________ r0lZ PgcEdit homepage (hosted by VideoHelp) BD3D2MK3D A tool to convert 3D blu-rays to SBS, T&B or FS MKV

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selyb Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: shreveport Posts: 79	mpc is in fact media player classic i renamed the exe it plays the movie just fine it isnt until after i close mpc that i get the error message i checked taskmgr to see if MPC was waiting to die until after the error message was gone and it is not not sure if this makes a difference... anyway, i tried your suggestion and there is no change im running WinXP Pro SP2 and PGCEdit .4.7 PGCEdit.exe resides @ E:\Programs\Authoring\ MPC.exe resides @ E:\Programs\MPC\ i tried changing mpc.exe to mplayerc.exe i also checked 'display application output' no change using the test button from the configure tools dialog has the same effect i understand about not being able to change the mouseup thing tested and confirmed, when i click the mouse button and hold it down, it does not execute the menu item i can hold the mouse button down, browse to a menu item, release the button, and it executes the item its a little weird to get used to but at least i have a workaround to not execute the item on the list the cursor just happened to be hovering Last edited by selyb; 9th January 2005 at 19:09.

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r0lZ PgcEdit daemon Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 7,469	Glad you can now use the popup menus. For MPC, I really don't understand. I have exactly the same configuration (XP Pro SP2) and it works fine. __________________ r0lZ PgcEdit homepage (hosted by VideoHelp) BD3D2MK3D A tool to convert 3D blu-rays to SBS, T&B or FS MKV

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2COOL PGC Navigator in Training Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: NTSC Land Posts: 3,552	@r0lZ You and I both know that a dummy PGC is without cells (media elements) and should only contain pre commands, with at least one Jump/Link/Call command. Let me give you an example of what I'm leading to. From Hero (region 1)... Only my FBI warnings reside in this PGC. When I chose to do a Delete Playback on this in IfoEdit and view my results in PgcEdit, I have this now. It's now a dummy PGC but its PGC Command table hasn't changed. Going to back to what I mentioned earlier, a dummy PGC shouldn't have post commands. Also, when I do a trace now, I get this when I'm in this command table. Cell 4? I had only 2 to begin with. Anyways, I've played my files in IfoEdit and PowerDVD with success and also with playing my burnt backup on 2 standalones. I'm a little confused at the moment because the IFO says there is no Programs and Cells but at the same time we have a existing post command that works. Is it truly a dummy PGC? EDIT: I think if PgcEdit could detect existing post commands and no program/cells, it should to an automatic kill playback to bring it closer our description of a dummy PGC. __________________ 2COOL Last edited by 2COOL; 10th January 2005 at 07:12.

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selyb Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: shreveport Posts: 79	on right click context menu: can you have it react to mouseup instead of mousedown? every time i right click, it chooses the item under the mouse before i can let go of the mouse button also, i created a custom tool every time i close MPC from using this, i get this error:

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selyb Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: shreveport Posts: 79	I just learned that if i use the tool item then close MPC before it actually opens the dvd files, it does not give me the error

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selyb Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: shreveport Posts: 79	i also tried taking the command line generated by pgcedit (displayed if you opt to confirm before using the tool) and it did not give me any error

9th January 2005, 21:24	#411 \| Link
selyb Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: shreveport Posts: 79	ive tested it on probably 20 different sets of files

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r0lZ PgcEdit daemon Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 7,469	Cell 4: Probably the calling command was something like LinkCN 4. Just wondering why it is so if the original PGC had only 2 cells. Could you verify that with the new "Go to Calling Command" function, or with the Trace's log? Unfortunately, my Hero (cheap edition, region 2) is not the same structure. I don't have a menu in VMGM, LU 1, 2. Dummy PGCs: Maybe I have to remove the warning. I've already found some original dummy PGCs without pre commands, but with post commands. Seems to work perfectly. Also, it is difficult to test this situation outside of the Trace function. If you have pre and post commands, it may be because you killed the PGC playback, and asked to remove the cells as well. __________________ r0lZ PgcEdit homepage (hosted by VideoHelp) BD3D2MK3D A tool to convert 3D blu-rays to SBS, T&B or FS MKV

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r0lZ PgcEdit daemon Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 7,469	@selyb: Well. I have searched google for "No accelerated IMDCT transform found". Seems this message comes from liba52, a library widely used by AC3 decoders, mainly in the Linux world. But some Windows players, like VLC (aka VideoLan, for Linux and Windows) use this library. Maybe you have installed a DVD player or AC3 codec using liba52, and that the installed codec is used by MPC to play AC3 streams. Also, you should have a look at the configuration of the audio speakers (Control Panel -> Sounds and Audio Devices -> Volume tab -> Speaker settings -> Advanced). Seems that this error is only occuring when AC3 is decoded for a 5.1 system, and does not occur when it is decoded as stereo. When PgcEdit launch an external app via the Tool menu, it tests the return code of the application. If it is non-zero, then it display the error message (if any) returned by the application in stdout or stderr. This is why you can see the error message in PgcEdit, but not when launching the app 'normally'. Do you have the problem when trying to play a DVD with AC3 audio? Do you hear the sound? Do you have the same problem if you launch another player (say M$ Media Player) the same way? __________________ r0lZ PgcEdit homepage (hosted by VideoHelp) BD3D2MK3D A tool to convert 3D blu-rays to SBS, T&B or FS MKV

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blutach Country Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: is everything! Posts: 6,499	@rolz Please refer to this 2COOL guide on how to correct IFOs after streams have been stripped. Is there any easy way to do this in PgcEdit? Regards __________________ Les Only use genuine Verbatim or Taiyo Yuden media.

10th January 2005, 15:05	#418 \| Link
r0lZ PgcEdit daemon Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 7,469	It is possible to remap the streams (the stream status stuff) in the PGC Editor. Setting the stream status to 0 in IfoEdit is the same as selecting Disable in the stream setup dialog in PgcEdit. So, for every stream status set to 0 in the method 1 guide, all you have to do is to click on the stream button, and select disable. The button will be marked with "none". It is also possible to change the stream language code in the Domain Stream Attributes dialog. However, it is not possible to remove a stream completely in this dialog, therefore, the 2COOL's method 2 (the consecutive method) is not usable with PgcEdit alone. __________________ r0lZ PgcEdit homepage (hosted by VideoHelp) BD3D2MK3D A tool to convert 3D blu-rays to SBS, T&B or FS MKV

10th January 2005, 18:21	#419 \| Link
jsoto Just a Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 2,067	Hi guys, Be careful with the non-consecutive method.... Although the VM commands to activate the audio/sub will work properly (so the menu buttons will work), I've found some strange behaviors when selecting (in a cyclic way) the streams from the remote during the playback: not all the players support non-consecutive streams... If you have your VOB in this situation, may be it is better to keep active all the streams in the PGC... jsoto __________________ Web sites with my tools http://download.videohelp.com/jsoto http://jsoto.posunplugged.com/