New Quantization Matrices - EQM V3 series (last update: 04/02/2005 - V3ULR)

Sharktooth · 29th September 2004, 15:27

Description:
This is a HIGH BITRATE matrix designed to work at full anamorphic DVD res (720x432) with bitrates over 1600kbits (for an average motion movie) and works pretty well even with Q2 encodings or extremely High bitrates. But for that target there will be an Ultra-high bitrate matrix (EMQ V3UHR).

EQM V3HR:

Code:

 8 10 10 10 11 11 13 15
10 10 10 10 11 12 14 16
10 10 11 11 13 14 16 18
10 10 11 13 15 17 19 23
11 11 13 15 19 22 26 29
11 12 14 17 22 28 34 41
13 14 16 19 26 34 44 55
15 16 18 23 29 41 55 72

15 15 15 15 16 17 19 22
15 15 15 15 16 18 20 23
15 15 16 17 19 20 23 27
15 15 17 19 22 25 29 33
16 16 19 22 28 32 38 43
17 18 20 25 32 41 50 60
19 20 23 29 38 50 66 81
22 23 27 33 43 60 81 106

Here's the direct link: EQM V3HR

Notes: Unlike V1 and V2, EQM V3 set of matrices were generated using a matrix built starting from a HVS study on luminance by IEEE. The same used by ReferenceDivX to build his HVS matrices.The differences with V2 are minimal (coz V2 is HVS tuned too, but in a different way) but the new coefficient scaling ensures V3 is full IEEE HVS compliant.
The HR matrix is a mid-high/high bitrate matrix.A low, ultra-low and ultra-high bitrate counterparts are coming...
Have fun with it and post your impressions.
Thanx in advance.

WARNING: It may not work with some standalones (expecially the ones with ESS chipsets).

IMPORTANT NOTE:
- FIXED -
There's a recently discovered bug in Xvid that affects all 1.xx versions with Trellis Quantization.
Some matrices trigger an overflow in trellis causing visible blocking at certain quants. One of them is EQM V3HR (but other matrices where reported as well).
There are 2 workarounds (at least i found those 2 only):
disable Trellis Quantization OR limit the MinQ and MaxQ to 2-31 respectively.
- FIXED -

EDIT: Updated on 01/10/2004

Sharktooth · 1st October 2004, 13:01

Description:
This is a LOW BITRATE matrix designed to work at full anamorphic DVD res (720x432) with bitrates lower than 1500kbits (for an average motion movie) and works pretty well even with high motion sources (using higher bitrates) keeping details where other matrices produce artifacts.

EQM V3LR:

Code:

 8  14  14  14  15  15  18  21
14  14  14  14  15  16  19  22
14  14  15  15  17  19  22  25
14  14  15  18  21  23  27  31
15  15  17  21  26  30  35  40
15  16  19  23  30  38  46  56
18  19  22  27  35  46  61  76
21  22  25  31  40  56  76  99

19  19  19  19  20  21  24  28
19  19  19  19  20  22  26  29
19  19  20  21  23  26  29  34
19  19  21  24  28  31  36  42
20  20  23  28  35  41  48  55
21  22  26  31  41  51  63  76
24  26  29  36  48  63  83 103
28  29  34  42  55  76 103 134

Here's the direct dowload link: EQM V3LR
The LR matrix was created in the same way of HR matrix but tuned for low bitrate encodes.

Sharktooth · 1st October 2004, 13:39

Description:
This is an ULTRA-LOW BITRATE soft matrix (re)designed for 2 reasons:
- Reducing artifacts as low as possible while keeping a good overall picture quality on low bitrate encodes.
- Producing the best matrix for 1 CD backup.

EQM V3ULR (revision 3)

Code:

  8  14  20  28  38  45  56  65
 14  20  26  37  44  56  64  70
 20  26  36  43  55  64  70  75
 28  37  43  54  63  70  76  79
 38  44  55  63  70  77  80  83
 45  56  64  70  77  81  84  88
 56  64  70  76  80  84  89  95
 65  70  75  79  83  88  95 102

 18  19  20  22  24  26  28  30
 19  20  22  24  26  28  30  34
 20  22  24  26  29  30  34  40
 22  24  26  30  32  36  44  50
 24  26  29  32  38  48  55  60
 26  28  30  36  48  58  74  80
 28  30  34  44  55  74  92 104
 30  34  40  50  60  80 104 128

Here's the direct download link:EQM V3ULR

Notes: This CQM is not HVS tuned.

EDIT: Matrix updated on 04/02/2005. Gained some compression, should avoid smaller artifacts.

Sharktooth · 1st October 2004, 20:27

Description:
This is an ULTRA-HIGH BITRATE matrix designed to work at full anamorphic DVD res (720x432) at very very high bitrates. The saturation point is 30% higher than Didée's 6of9 matrix but at the cost of a lower compressibility.

EQM V3UHR (revision 2):

Code:

8	8	8	8	8	8	10	11
8	8	8	8	8	9	10	12
8	8	8	8	9	10	12	14
8	8	8	10	11	13	15	17
8	8	9	11	14	16	19	22
8	9	10	13	16	21	25	31
10	10	12	15	19	25	33	41
11	12	14	17	22	31	41	54

10	10	10	10	10	10	10	11
10	10	10	10	10	10	10	12
10	10	10	10	10	10	12	14
10	10	10	10	11	13	15	17
10	10	10	11	14	16	19	22
10	10	10	13	16	21	25	31
10	10	12	15	19	25	33	41
11	12	14	17	22	31	41	54

Here's the direct dowload link: EQM V3UHR

WARNING: It may not work with some standalones (expecially the ones with ESS chipsets).

UPDATED 17/12/2004

JarrettH · 1st October 2004, 21:47

Thanks, I'll have to try them next movie I do.
Any comments regarding these matrices versus others?

Sharktooth · 2nd October 2004, 02:51

Sure. All those matrices are HVS tuned, that means they are tuned in some way to spare bits from unvisible details and use them for the visible details.
UHR is a real monster when used at constant Q3 (or for DVD-R size backups) expecially with high quality sources.
For a general use i would reccomend LR or HR.
ULR is not properly an ultra-low bitrate matrix but it's very suitable for full DVD resolution 1CD backups (i dont even take into consideration bitrates lower than 700kbps cause V3 series matrices are aimed for movie backups).
As i said ULR has the same application of Jawor's 1CD matrix.
LR and HR are suitable for 2 or 3 CD backups, you can use them in place of HVS Better/Best or similar matrices.
I'm still testing them on different sources and i need some feedback on compressibility results.
I will do some fine tuning after the test results.

spolja · 3rd October 2004, 09:07

Hi,
Is Ultra High Bitrate matrix suitable for HD content?

Sharktooth · 3rd October 2004, 13:33

It is for sure, but remember that HD content needs more bitrate due to the higher resolution.

Sharktooth · 4th October 2004, 13:22

Description:
This is an EXTREMELY HIGH BITRATE matrix designed for constant quality encodings ONLY. Compressibility is "ridiculus" in comparison with other high-bitrate matrices but there is a reason...
It's application is pretty obvious: it's for backing up original material or HD material without using lossless codecs.

EQM V3EHR:

Code:

  8   8   9  11  13  13  14  17
  8   8  11  12  13  14  17  18
  9  11  13  13  14  17  17  16
 11  11  13  13  13  17  18  20
 11  13  13  13  16  17  20  24
 13  13  13  16  17  20  24  29
 13  12  13  17  19  23  28  34
 12  13  17  19  23  28  34  41

  8   8   8   8   8   8   8   8
  8   8   8   8   8   8   8   8
  8   8   8   8   8   8   8   8
  8   8   8   8   8   8   8   8
  8   8   8   8   8   8   8   8
  8   8   8   8   8   8   8   8
  8   8   8   8   8   8   8   8
  8   8   8   8   8   8   8   8

Here's the direct download link: EQM V3EHR

Notes: This CQM is not HVS tuned.

WARNING: It may not work with some standalones (expecially the ones with ESS chipsets).

EDIT: Matrix updated (uhm... completely redesigned) on 05/10/2004.

olavitur · 5th October 2004, 12:19

Shartooth: I tested your new EQM V3UHR quantization matrix with two movies (The Bourne Identity and Kill Bill Vol. 2) and the quality I got was simply amazing. Though I had to use bitrates around 3000kbps to get there but it was worth every bit.
Both of the movies were in PAL 720x576 format so I decided to use LanczosResize to resize then to 720x480 so that I wouldn't have to use even higher bitrates (~3000kbps is high enough for me). First pass (Q2) bitrates were around 6500kbps for both of the movies.

Currently I'm making some more tests and comparing EQM V3UHR with Semi-Insane (by the way, SixOfNine didn't have a change against V3UHR).

Sharktooth · 5th October 2004, 13:37

I've spent a lot of time for "internal" tests and I'm really happy to receive some positive feedback.
There is also an "experimental" version of EQM V3EHR for insanely high bitrates (6000+) or Q2 encodings.
If you have some free time i suggest you to try EHR too.
Have a nice day and thanks again for the feedback.

olavitur · 5th October 2004, 18:35

Quote:

Originally posted by Sharktooth
I've spent a lot of time for "internal" tests and I'm really happy to receive some positive feedback.
There is also an "experimental" version of EQM V3EHR for insanely high bitrates (6000+) or Q2 encodings.
If you have some free time i suggest you to try EHR too.
Have a nice day and thanks again for the feedback.

Thanks, but no thanks... I'm not that insane

I think your EQM V3UHR is good enough for most of us high quality freaks. Not many of us wants to encode xvid clips which are the same size as original dvd...

I managed to do some comparing between V3UHR and Semi-Insane (SI). This time it was really tough to find any real differences between these two matrixes as they produced about equal picture quality. But it seemes that V3UHR handles noisy parts of the movie a little bit better than SI does. With SI when there was panning in the video noise tend to float on the screen a little. With V3UHR I didn't notice this so much. Maybe SI works better on movies that have minimal amount of noise.

Sharktooth · 6th October 2004, 09:24

UHR should produce a smaller file than semi insane @constant Q2.
Tnx again for your feedback

6th October 2004, 18:36

Hi Sharktooth !
For the last two days I've been testing EQM V3ULR. The original DVD movie 110 min long, with average motion. AR=1.88 (cropping). I decided to make 1 CD bacup using XviD 1.0.2 with 2-pass encoding. Audio vbr mp3 96 kbps. I tried to make a backup without resizing and also did some tests with different resize values (608 and 544). Encoder settings:
QP OFF
GMC OFF
B-VOPs 2/1.5/1
CG ON
MSP 6
CM ON
VHQ 2
MIfi 300
Q I/P/B 2-31
Trellis OFF
The compressibility tests were between 40-68% (depending on the resolution) and they were always about 12% higher than for Jawor's matrix. The problem is that I always got oversized files up to 760 MB. When useing Jawor's matrix, I got proper sizes of files. I don't quite understand what is the reason.

Sharktooth · 6th October 2004, 19:04

Weird. Have you tried it with different movies?
However try playing with the overflow treatment options.

JarrettH · 7th October 2004, 01:53

Going to use any of these for your comparison Soulhunter?

7th October 2004, 14:29

Quote:

Have you tried it with different movies?

I've just done 4 encodings for the same movie. I didn't want to use a piece of Vob doing this kind of tests, because I think they are not thruthful enough.

Sharktooth · 7th October 2004, 15:57

Quote:

Originally posted by JarrettH
Going to use any of these for your comparison Soulhunter?

Yes

Sharktooth · 11th October 2004, 17:01

EQM V3EHR is no longer "beta" and matrices for "streaming bitrates" are coming ...

@mateo4x4: Any news?

EDIT: There won't be matrices for streaming bitrates at this time...

12th October 2004, 20:37

Hi !
I had some problems with network connection and I was also quite busy by writting one article. But today I'm going to compress another 2 movies and use EQM V3ULR.

29th September 2004, 15:27	#1 \| Link
Sharktooth Mr. Sandman Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Haddonfield, IL Posts: 11,768	New Quantization Matrices - EQM V3 series (last update: 04/02/2005 - V3ULR) Description: This is a HIGH BITRATE matrix designed to work at full anamorphic DVD res (720x432) with bitrates over 1600kbits (for an average motion movie) and works pretty well even with Q2 encodings or extremely High bitrates. But for that target there will be an Ultra-high bitrate matrix (EMQ V3UHR). EQM V3HR: Code: 8 10 10 10 11 11 13 15 10 10 10 10 11 12 14 16 10 10 11 11 13 14 16 18 10 10 11 13 15 17 19 23 11 11 13 15 19 22 26 29 11 12 14 17 22 28 34 41 13 14 16 19 26 34 44 55 15 16 18 23 29 41 55 72 15 15 15 15 16 17 19 22 15 15 15 15 16 18 20 23 15 15 16 17 19 20 23 27 15 15 17 19 22 25 29 33 16 16 19 22 28 32 38 43 17 18 20 25 32 41 50 60 19 20 23 29 38 50 66 81 22 23 27 33 43 60 81 106 Here's the direct link: EQM V3HR Notes: Unlike V1 and V2, EQM V3 set of matrices were generated using a matrix built starting from a HVS study on luminance by IEEE. The same used by ReferenceDivX to build his HVS matrices.The differences with V2 are minimal (coz V2 is HVS tuned too, but in a different way) but the new coefficient scaling ensures V3 is full IEEE HVS compliant. The HR matrix is a mid-high/high bitrate matrix.A low, ultra-low and ultra-high bitrate counterparts are coming... Have fun with it and post your impressions. Thanx in advance. WARNING: It may not work with some standalones (expecially the ones with ESS chipsets). IMPORTANT NOTE: - FIXED - There's a recently discovered bug in Xvid that affects all 1.xx versions with Trellis Quantization. Some matrices trigger an overflow in trellis causing visible blocking at certain quants. One of them is EQM V3HR (but other matrices where reported as well). There are 2 workarounds (at least i found those 2 only): disable Trellis Quantization OR limit the MinQ and MaxQ to 2-31 respectively. - FIXED - EDIT: Updated on 01/10/2004 __________________ MPEG-4 ASP Custom Matrices: EQM V1(old), EQM AutoGK Sharpmatrix (aka EQM V2), EQM V3HR (updated 01/10/2004), EQM V3LR, EQM V3ULR (updated 04/02/2005), EQM V3UHR (updated 17/12/2004) and EQM V3EHR (updated 05/10/2004) Info about my ASP matrices. MPEG-4 AVC Custom Matrices: EQM AVC-HR Info about my AVC matrices My x264 builds. Mooo!!! Last edited by Sharktooth; 1st September 2005 at 13:01.

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Sharktooth Mr. Sandman Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Haddonfield, IL Posts: 11,768	Description: This is a LOW BITRATE matrix designed to work at full anamorphic DVD res (720x432) with bitrates lower than 1500kbits (for an average motion movie) and works pretty well even with high motion sources (using higher bitrates) keeping details where other matrices produce artifacts. EQM V3LR: Code: 8 14 14 14 15 15 18 21 14 14 14 14 15 16 19 22 14 14 15 15 17 19 22 25 14 14 15 18 21 23 27 31 15 15 17 21 26 30 35 40 15 16 19 23 30 38 46 56 18 19 22 27 35 46 61 76 21 22 25 31 40 56 76 99 19 19 19 19 20 21 24 28 19 19 19 19 20 22 26 29 19 19 20 21 23 26 29 34 19 19 21 24 28 31 36 42 20 20 23 28 35 41 48 55 21 22 26 31 41 51 63 76 24 26 29 36 48 63 83 103 28 29 34 42 55 76 103 134 Here's the direct dowload link: EQM V3LR The LR matrix was created in the same way of HR matrix but tuned for low bitrate encodes. __________________ MPEG-4 ASP Custom Matrices: EQM V1(old), EQM AutoGK Sharpmatrix (aka EQM V2), EQM V3HR (updated 01/10/2004), EQM V3LR, EQM V3ULR (updated 04/02/2005), EQM V3UHR (updated 17/12/2004) and EQM V3EHR (updated 05/10/2004) Info about my ASP matrices. MPEG-4 AVC Custom Matrices: EQM AVC-HR Info about my AVC matrices My x264 builds. Mooo!!! Last edited by Sharktooth; 1st September 2005 at 13:01.

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Sharktooth Mr. Sandman Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Haddonfield, IL Posts: 11,768	Description: This is an ULTRA-LOW BITRATE soft matrix (re)designed for 2 reasons: - Reducing artifacts as low as possible while keeping a good overall picture quality on low bitrate encodes. - Producing the best matrix for 1 CD backup. EQM V3ULR (revision 3) Code: 8 14 20 28 38 45 56 65 14 20 26 37 44 56 64 70 20 26 36 43 55 64 70 75 28 37 43 54 63 70 76 79 38 44 55 63 70 77 80 83 45 56 64 70 77 81 84 88 56 64 70 76 80 84 89 95 65 70 75 79 83 88 95 102 18 19 20 22 24 26 28 30 19 20 22 24 26 28 30 34 20 22 24 26 29 30 34 40 22 24 26 30 32 36 44 50 24 26 29 32 38 48 55 60 26 28 30 36 48 58 74 80 28 30 34 44 55 74 92 104 30 34 40 50 60 80 104 128 Here's the direct download link:EQM V3ULR Notes: This CQM is not HVS tuned. EDIT: Matrix updated on 04/02/2005. Gained some compression, should avoid smaller artifacts. __________________ MPEG-4 ASP Custom Matrices: EQM V1(old), EQM AutoGK Sharpmatrix (aka EQM V2), EQM V3HR (updated 01/10/2004), EQM V3LR, EQM V3ULR (updated 04/02/2005), EQM V3UHR (updated 17/12/2004) and EQM V3EHR (updated 05/10/2004) Info about my ASP matrices. MPEG-4 AVC Custom Matrices: EQM AVC-HR Info about my AVC matrices My x264 builds. Mooo!!! Last edited by Sharktooth; 17th November 2005 at 10:12.

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Sharktooth Mr. Sandman Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Haddonfield, IL Posts: 11,768	Description: This is an ULTRA-HIGH BITRATE matrix designed to work at full anamorphic DVD res (720x432) at very very high bitrates. The saturation point is 30% higher than Didée's 6of9 matrix but at the cost of a lower compressibility. EQM V3UHR (revision 2): Code: 8 8 8 8 8 8 10 11 8 8 8 8 8 9 10 12 8 8 8 8 9 10 12 14 8 8 8 10 11 13 15 17 8 8 9 11 14 16 19 22 8 9 10 13 16 21 25 31 10 10 12 15 19 25 33 41 11 12 14 17 22 31 41 54 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 11 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 12 10 10 10 10 10 10 12 14 10 10 10 10 11 13 15 17 10 10 10 11 14 16 19 22 10 10 10 13 16 21 25 31 10 10 12 15 19 25 33 41 11 12 14 17 22 31 41 54 Here's the direct dowload link: EQM V3UHR WARNING: It may not work with some standalones (expecially the ones with ESS chipsets). UPDATED 17/12/2004 __________________ MPEG-4 ASP Custom Matrices: EQM V1(old), EQM AutoGK Sharpmatrix (aka EQM V2), EQM V3HR (updated 01/10/2004), EQM V3LR, EQM V3ULR (updated 04/02/2005), EQM V3UHR (updated 17/12/2004) and EQM V3EHR (updated 05/10/2004) Info about my ASP matrices. MPEG-4 AVC Custom Matrices: EQM AVC-HR Info about my AVC matrices My x264 builds. Mooo!!! Last edited by Sharktooth; 1st September 2005 at 13:02.

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Sharktooth Mr. Sandman Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Haddonfield, IL Posts: 11,768	Sure. All those matrices are HVS tuned, that means they are tuned in some way to spare bits from unvisible details and use them for the visible details. UHR is a real monster when used at constant Q3 (or for DVD-R size backups) expecially with high quality sources. For a general use i would reccomend LR or HR. ULR is not properly an ultra-low bitrate matrix but it's very suitable for full DVD resolution 1CD backups (i dont even take into consideration bitrates lower than 700kbps cause V3 series matrices are aimed for movie backups). As i said ULR has the same application of Jawor's 1CD matrix. LR and HR are suitable for 2 or 3 CD backups, you can use them in place of HVS Better/Best or similar matrices. I'm still testing them on different sources and i need some feedback on compressibility results. I will do some fine tuning after the test results. __________________ MPEG-4 ASP Custom Matrices: EQM V1(old), EQM AutoGK Sharpmatrix (aka EQM V2), EQM V3HR (updated 01/10/2004), EQM V3LR, EQM V3ULR (updated 04/02/2005), EQM V3UHR (updated 17/12/2004) and EQM V3EHR (updated 05/10/2004) Info about my ASP matrices. MPEG-4 AVC Custom Matrices: EQM AVC-HR Info about my AVC matrices My x264 builds. Mooo!!! Last edited by Sharktooth; 9th April 2005 at 14:54.

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JarrettH Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 864	Thanks, I'll have to try them next movie I do. Any comments regarding these matrices versus others?

3rd October 2004, 09:07	#7 \| Link
spolja Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Croatia Posts: 46	Hi, Is Ultra High Bitrate matrix suitable for HD content? __________________ XviD + ac3 + srt + ch = mkv

3rd October 2004, 13:33	#8 \| Link
Sharktooth Mr. Sandman Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Haddonfield, IL Posts: 11,768	It is for sure, but remember that HD content needs more bitrate due to the higher resolution. __________________ MPEG-4 ASP Custom Matrices: EQM V1(old), EQM AutoGK Sharpmatrix (aka EQM V2), EQM V3HR (updated 01/10/2004), EQM V3LR, EQM V3ULR (updated 04/02/2005), EQM V3UHR (updated 17/12/2004) and EQM V3EHR (updated 05/10/2004) Info about my ASP matrices. MPEG-4 AVC Custom Matrices: EQM AVC-HR Info about my AVC matrices My x264 builds. Mooo!!!

4th October 2004, 13:22	#9 \| Link
Sharktooth Mr. Sandman Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Haddonfield, IL Posts: 11,768	Description: This is an EXTREMELY HIGH BITRATE matrix designed for constant quality encodings ONLY. Compressibility is "ridiculus" in comparison with other high-bitrate matrices but there is a reason... It's application is pretty obvious: it's for backing up original material or HD material without using lossless codecs. EQM V3EHR: Code: 8 8 9 11 13 13 14 17 8 8 11 12 13 14 17 18 9 11 13 13 14 17 17 16 11 11 13 13 13 17 18 20 11 13 13 13 16 17 20 24 13 13 13 16 17 20 24 29 13 12 13 17 19 23 28 34 12 13 17 19 23 28 34 41 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 Here's the direct download link: EQM V3EHR Notes: This CQM is not HVS tuned. WARNING: It may not work with some standalones (expecially the ones with ESS chipsets). EDIT: Matrix updated (uhm... completely redesigned) on 05/10/2004. __________________ MPEG-4 ASP Custom Matrices: EQM V1(old), EQM AutoGK Sharpmatrix (aka EQM V2), EQM V3HR (updated 01/10/2004), EQM V3LR, EQM V3ULR (updated 04/02/2005), EQM V3UHR (updated 17/12/2004) and EQM V3EHR (updated 05/10/2004) Info about my ASP matrices. MPEG-4 AVC Custom Matrices: EQM AVC-HR Info about my AVC matrices My x264 builds. Mooo!!! Last edited by Sharktooth; 1st September 2005 at 13:03.

5th October 2004, 12:19	#10 \| Link
olavitur Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 9	Shartooth: I tested your new EQM V3UHR quantization matrix with two movies (The Bourne Identity and Kill Bill Vol. 2) and the quality I got was simply amazing. Though I had to use bitrates around 3000kbps to get there but it was worth every bit. Both of the movies were in PAL 720x576 format so I decided to use LanczosResize to resize then to 720x480 so that I wouldn't have to use even higher bitrates (~3000kbps is high enough for me). First pass (Q2) bitrates were around 6500kbps for both of the movies. Currently I'm making some more tests and comparing EQM V3UHR with Semi-Insane (by the way, SixOfNine didn't have a change against V3UHR).

5th October 2004, 13:37	#11 \| Link
Sharktooth Mr. Sandman Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Haddonfield, IL Posts: 11,768	I've spent a lot of time for "internal" tests and I'm really happy to receive some positive feedback. There is also an "experimental" version of EQM V3EHR for insanely high bitrates (6000+) or Q2 encodings. If you have some free time i suggest you to try EHR too. Have a nice day and thanks again for the feedback. __________________ MPEG-4 ASP Custom Matrices: EQM V1(old), EQM AutoGK Sharpmatrix (aka EQM V2), EQM V3HR (updated 01/10/2004), EQM V3LR, EQM V3ULR (updated 04/02/2005), EQM V3UHR (updated 17/12/2004) and EQM V3EHR (updated 05/10/2004) Info about my ASP matrices. MPEG-4 AVC Custom Matrices: EQM AVC-HR Info about my AVC matrices My x264 builds. Mooo!!! Last edited by Sharktooth; 5th October 2004 at 16:36.

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Sharktooth Mr. Sandman Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Haddonfield, IL Posts: 11,768	UHR should produce a smaller file than semi insane @constant Q2. Tnx again for your feedback __________________ MPEG-4 ASP Custom Matrices: EQM V1(old), EQM AutoGK Sharpmatrix (aka EQM V2), EQM V3HR (updated 01/10/2004), EQM V3LR, EQM V3ULR (updated 04/02/2005), EQM V3UHR (updated 17/12/2004) and EQM V3EHR (updated 05/10/2004) Info about my ASP matrices. MPEG-4 AVC Custom Matrices: EQM AVC-HR Info about my AVC matrices My x264 builds. Mooo!!!

6th October 2004, 18:36	#14 \| Link
mateo4x4 Guest Posts: n/a	Hi Sharktooth ! For the last two days I've been testing EQM V3ULR. The original DVD movie 110 min long, with average motion. AR=1.88 (cropping). I decided to make 1 CD bacup using XviD 1.0.2 with 2-pass encoding. Audio vbr mp3 96 kbps. I tried to make a backup without resizing and also did some tests with different resize values (608 and 544). Encoder settings: QP OFF GMC OFF B-VOPs 2/1.5/1 CG ON MSP 6 CM ON VHQ 2 MIfi 300 Q I/P/B 2-31 Trellis OFF The compressibility tests were between 40-68% (depending on the resolution) and they were always about 12% higher than for Jawor's matrix. The problem is that I always got oversized files up to 760 MB. When useing Jawor's matrix, I got proper sizes of files. I don't quite understand what is the reason. Last edited by dr.Prozac; 13th October 2004 at 20:28.

6th October 2004, 19:04	#15 \| Link
Sharktooth Mr. Sandman Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Haddonfield, IL Posts: 11,768	Weird. Have you tried it with different movies? However try playing with the overflow treatment options. __________________ MPEG-4 ASP Custom Matrices: EQM V1(old), EQM AutoGK Sharpmatrix (aka EQM V2), EQM V3HR (updated 01/10/2004), EQM V3LR, EQM V3ULR (updated 04/02/2005), EQM V3UHR (updated 17/12/2004) and EQM V3EHR (updated 05/10/2004) Info about my ASP matrices. MPEG-4 AVC Custom Matrices: EQM AVC-HR Info about my AVC matrices My x264 builds. Mooo!!!

7th October 2004, 01:53	#16 \| Link
JarrettH Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 864	Going to use any of these for your comparison Soulhunter?

11th October 2004, 17:01	#19 \| Link
Sharktooth Mr. Sandman Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Haddonfield, IL Posts: 11,768	EQM V3EHR is no longer "beta" and matrices for "streaming bitrates" are coming ... @mateo4x4: Any news? EDIT: There won't be matrices for streaming bitrates at this time... __________________ MPEG-4 ASP Custom Matrices: EQM V1(old), EQM AutoGK Sharpmatrix (aka EQM V2), EQM V3HR (updated 01/10/2004), EQM V3LR, EQM V3ULR (updated 04/02/2005), EQM V3UHR (updated 17/12/2004) and EQM V3EHR (updated 05/10/2004) Info about my ASP matrices. MPEG-4 AVC Custom Matrices: EQM AVC-HR Info about my AVC matrices My x264 builds. Mooo!!! Last edited by Sharktooth; 24th October 2004 at 13:45.

12th October 2004, 20:37	#20 \| Link
mateo4x4 Guest Posts: n/a	Hi ! I had some problems with network connection and I was also quite busy by writting one article. But today I'm going to compress another 2 movies and use EQM V3ULR.

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