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Old 13th August 2004, 22:12   #1  |  Link
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New Nerovision/Recode version

I just downloaded the latest Nerovision Express (v2.1.218) and Recode lets you import .mpg's now, haven't tried .avs yet. Just installed it so I haven't actually tried encoding anything yet, I'll leave the real testing to the more experienced users...
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Old 13th August 2004, 22:34   #2  |  Link
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Nero Recode:
+ can open media files other than DVD
+ 2 audio tracks
+ 2 subtitle tracks
+ chapter creation/deletion
+ resize with square pixel (optional, of course)
+ interface changes (option to recode a full dvd or main movie only, audio settings button moved)
- no parametric audio encoding or H.264

Nero Vision Express & Useless:
- can't use Nero Digital codecs
-- can't use Nero Digital codecs
--- can't use Nero Digital codecs

From www.nero.com:

Transcoding to Nero Digital:

New improved Nero Digital profiles for improved CE compatibility
Support for transcoding video files to Nero Digital has been added (AVI, AVS, MPEG1, MPEG2, MPEG4, MOV, VOB, WMV)
Support for Nero Digital chapter marks - a Nero Digital file can now have chapters; chapters from DVD titles are automatically taken over. For all other files, the user can specify the chapter marks himself.
Copy the main movie of a DVD to Nero Digital project type
Encoding of 2 audio tracks and 2 subtitle tracks into one .mp4 file is now possible
Data files can also be added to a Nero Digital project
Support splitting of Nero Digital files to several discs or to one custom size file
High speed first pass for 2 pass encoding has been added
Support for "square pixels" in mp4 files has been added to allow downwards compatibility with certain devices

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Old 13th August 2004, 23:58   #3  |  Link
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Just downloaded it myself...

Every time I launch Recode2 the DVD drive tray opens and closes. Same thing happens when going into the 'Burn/Options Settings'.

Also, AAC-HE audio has gone for me, as has GMC, Qpel and a few other settings!

Anybody have any ideas?


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Old 14th August 2004, 09:11   #4  |  Link
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Try uninstalling and reinstalling, maybe some files were in use and weren't updated
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Old 14th August 2004, 16:32   #5  |  Link
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It also allow AVi and other format input........

What's new
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Old 14th August 2004, 18:05   #6  |  Link
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Try uninstalling and reinstalling, maybe some files were in use and weren't updated
OK.. just tried doing that...

Now when I install the latest version of NVE I get this: -



and this: -



I wonder if this is down to me running a clean install of WinXP Pro with SP2 ..... I hope not!


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Old 14th August 2004, 18:17   #7  |  Link
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Retry your download. If you keep getting the same error you may have hardware problems. About not being able to select certain features, if you select certain nero digital profiles in the first screen (right bottom) features will be disabled or enabled.
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Old 14th August 2004, 18:26   #8  |  Link
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Redownload the package (update or demo?) and clean your TEMP folder, too (Start, Run, %TEMP%, select all and delete)
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Thanks for that info guys,

I downloaded the 'update package' and prior to install made a visit to my 'Temp' folder (to which I have a desktop shortcut). I also used RegCleaner (an oldie but reliable application) to delete all the old Ahead registry entries!

Although I'm happy to report that I was able to install the software I'm still having exactly the same problems as before, eg: the drive tray opens and closes. No AAC-HE audio, GMC, Qpel plus other settings!

What a bummer!
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Thanks for that info guys,

I downloaded the 'update package' and prior to install made a visit to my 'Temp' folder (to which I have a desktop shortcut). I also used RegCleaner (an oldie but reliable application) to delete all the old Ahead registry entries!

Although I'm happy to report that I was able to install the software I'm still having exactly the same problems as before, eg: the drive tray opens and closes. No AAC-HE audio, GMC, Qpel plus other settings!

What a bummer!
Try changing your username in SeeNeroDigital, it may work

For the drive issue check the settings (there should be a new option related to to that) and for the codec options... are you sure you haven't selected a "limited" profile? Try switching between them and see if something (good) happens

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Thanks for that info guys,

I downloaded the 'update package' and prior to install made a visit to my 'Temp' folder (to which I have a desktop shortcut). I also used RegCleaner (an oldie but reliable application) to delete all the old Ahead registry entries!

Although I'm happy to report that I was able to install the software I'm still having exactly the same problems as before, eg: the drive tray opens and closes. No AAC-HE audio, GMC, Qpel plus other settings!

What a bummer!
Select other than Nero Digital "standard" -profile. "Maximum Definition" -profile gives those features.

Btw. There seems to be h.264 decoding included in this release.
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Old 14th August 2004, 21:23   #12  |  Link
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Try changing your username in SeeNeroDigital, it may work

For the drive issue check the settings (there should be a new option related to to that) and for the codec options... are you sure you haven't selected a "limited" profile? Try switching between them and see if something (good) happens
Okay, I'm getting a little nearer to perfection!

In the NeroDigital Profile I had it set to 'Standard'. However when you alter it to 'Cinema' or 'High Definition TV', all the AAC-HE audio and higher ASP video settings re-appear



By-the-way, have you guys noticed that AAC-HE audio bit-rates max-out at 128kbps now instead of 96kbps? This is a welcome improvement!

The damn drive tray still opens up though... it's a real pisser because it means I can't burn directly onto blank media or 'back-up' from disc based media


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Old 14th August 2004, 21:35   #13  |  Link
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The damn drive tray still opens up though... it's a real pisser because it means I can't burn directly onto blank media or 'back-up' from disc based media
Have you tried checking the second option in the general tab of Recode settings?
I guess Recode shares the same burning engine as nero, so try to configure Nero Burning Rom to not open the drive when burning is complete
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Old 14th August 2004, 22:14   #14  |  Link
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i have updated and all the usual features including he-aac and gmc and qpel are still there.

the first pass is now much faster than the second like xvids.

Am running some tests but sofar all seams ok i have encoded mpeg ts files i recoreded with my tv card without any problems.
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Old 15th August 2004, 03:41   #15  |  Link
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I have encoded a couple of HDTV samples and the quality is impressive as is the speed at which it encodes the video.

I have been using recode to convert a TV series to anamorphic .mp4s with great results for a while now but this new version does the first pass at over 100fps.
The second pass seems the same speed as before averaging about 20fps in extra quality mode on full anamorphic 720x576 frames.

A long story cut short the application used to take 110 mins per episode now it only takes 65 mins whilst the quality appears to be as good as if not better than the previous version of recode.

Also the directshow splitter now works in windows media player which for me it did not but I still use mpc as I can skip chapters with that more easily.

SeeMoreDigital you will be pleased to know that now you can disable crop and resize and the correct aspect is maintained.

This is an excellent release by the Nero team with more features than before with the existing ones efficiency improved this is a definite thumb’s up.
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Have you tried checking the second option in the general tab of Recode settings?
I guess Recode shares the same burning engine as nero, so try to configure Nero Burning Rom to not open the drive when burning is complete
Nice thought, but sadly it did not work!



I've also tried installing NVE completely on it's own (ie: without installing Nero6 Burning ROM) and this did not work either...

I've just had a thought. I wonder if it's because I have a DVD ROM drive that's connected via USB2.0 and a DVD burner that's connected via IDE...

I'll disconnect the USB2.0 DVD drive, delete and re-install Nero to see what happens!

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SeeMoreDigital you will be pleased to know that now you can disable crop and resize and the correct aspect is maintained.
This is excellent news

I generated a quick PAL anamorphic 720x576 encode using the highest quality setting and when played back in software and hardware the encodes performed perfectly (I even created some additional chapters).

Also when I extracted the video stream to AVI and ran it thru' MPEG4 Modifier the PAR was reported as being 64:45. This is spot on and represents 16:9 PAL perfectly.

Spooky... it's almost like somebody actually read one of my posts about this very subject

Plus and this is a big plus. Although my encode test was only very short, it's clear that there is a significant image quality improvement...

...look out XviD, Ahead are nipping at your 'image quality' heals!

And as for DivX... Man, have you guys got some catching up work to do now. If Nero ever get round to adding MP3 audio and AVI container support you would be in real trouble... And don't say you were not warned!


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Has anyone tested it Recode can import subtitles (and which format) or dual audio track from avi? (Or from a separate file)
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Has anyone tested it Recode can import subtitles (and which format) or dual audio track from avi? (Or from a separate file)
I imported an .MP4 encode with 2 track audio and 2 sub-title sets with multiple chapters and Recode2 re-encoded it perfectly.

The importing of DV.avi (digi cam) material works perfectly too. And so does the importing of those little .avi's you can create from 'stills' cameras.... Recode2 really is the dogs nads!

Shame it doesn't like WMV9.avi, WMV9.wmv, VP6.avi, the MKV or any of the Real containers... But you never know what the next few months might bring


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Try the h264 decoding. I have some avc streams in .avi, .264 and .mp4 containers and the new NeVideo.ax&NdParser.ax handles all of these.
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Try the h264 decoding. I have some avc streams in .avi, .264 and .mp4 containers and the new NeVideo.ax&NdParser.ax handles all of these.
No shit.... amazing!
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