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Old 18th December 2003, 05:58   #1  |  Link
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MT1389xx Based Player Information

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ChipsRev/Players
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DivX Certified MT1389DE = Elta 8883,Amstrad 3016dx,Irradio Dvx 103,Ascomtec DVD-3004,
Rimax NEW, Scott 842, Lenco DVD-37 Mpeg 4, Yamada DVX6600
DivX Certified MT1389EE = 
DivX Certified MT1389FE = Peekton 6003,Atacom DV967
Not Certified PreChip/Buggy MT1389GE = Gran Prix,Lifetec 7457,Medion 7457,Nevir 2046,NeoDigits NeuNeo
Transcontinent TR-100,,Dual 800,Ansonic dixh-ht10,DK Digital DVD-339
DivX Certified MT1389SE =


Firmware:

Elta 8883 (Germany)          1st update
---------
Version     = 05.00.01.06    05.00.02.02
Sub-Version = 00.00.01.06    00.00.00.01
8032        = 05.00.01.06    05.00.02.02
Servo       = 01.05.01.00    01.07.00.00
RISC        = 05.00.01.06    05.00.02.02
DSP         = 03.03.00.14    03.03.00.23

More Player Info 

Amstrad 3016dx (Italy)
---------------              1st Update
VERSION     = 05.00.01.06    05.00.01.06
SUB-VERSION = ??.??.??.??    00.00.01.06
8032        = 05.00.01.06    05.00.01.06
Servo       = 01.05.01.00    01.05.01.00
RISC        = 05.00.01.06    05.00.02.02
DSP         = 03.03.00.14    03.03.00.33

Irradio Dvx 103 (Italy)
---------------
VERSION     = 05.00.01.06
SUB-VERSION = ??.??.??.??
8032        = 05.00.01.06
Servo       = 01.05.01.00
RISC        = 05.00.01.06
DSP         = 03.03.00.14

Gran Prix/Silva DVD 404-divx (Austria)
-----------------------------
Version     = 05.00.00.09
Sub-Version = 54.03.00.02
8032        = 05.00.00.09
Servo       = 02.04.00.00
RISC        = 05.00.00.09
DSP         = 03.03.00.08

More Player Info 

Lifetec 7457 (France)
---------------
Version     = 05.00.00.09
Sub-Version = 4D.01.00.05
8032        = 05.00.00.09
Servo       = 02.04.00.00
RISC        = 05.00.00.09
DSP         = 03.03.00.08


Medion 7457 (Germany,Denmark) 1st update  
---------------
Version     = 05.00.00.09     05.00.02.04
Sub-Version = 4D.00.00.09     4D.00.01.00
8032        = 05.00.00.09     05.00.02.04
Servo       = 02.04.00.00     02.06.00.00
RISC        = 05.00.00.09     05.00.02.05
DSP         = 03.03.00.08     03.03.00.35

More Player Info

Dual 800 (Germany)
---------------
Version     = 05.00.02.02
Sub-Version = 54.0D.00.01
8032        = 05.00.02.02
Servo       = 07.02.00.00
RISC        = 05.00.02.02
DSP         = 03.03.00.23

Ascomtek DVD-3004 (Spain)   1st update
---------------
VERSION     = ??.??.??.??   05.00.01.06
SUB-VERSION = ??.??.??.??   00.00.01.01
8032        = ??.??.??.??   05.00.01.06
Servo       = ??.??.??.??   01.05.01.00
RISC        = ??.??.??.??   05.00.02.02
DSP         = ??.??.??.??   03.03.00.23

More Player Info

Ascomtek DVD-3006 (Spain)   1st update
---------------
VERSION     = ??.??.??.??   ??.??.??.??
SUB-VERSION = ??.??.??.??   ??.??.??.??
8032        = ??.??.??.??   ??.??.??.??
Servo       = ??.??.??.??   ??.??.??.??
RISC        = ??.??.??.??   ??.??.??.??
DSP         = ??.??.??.??   ??.??.??.??

Nevir 2046 (Spain)          1st update
---------------
VERSION     = 05.00.00.09   05.00.02.02
SUB-VERSION = ??.??.??.??   54.07.00.01
8032        = 05.00.00.09   05.00.02.02
Servo       = 02.04.00.00   02.06.00.00
RISC        = 05.00.00.09   05.00.02.02
DSP         = 03.03.00.08   03.03.00.23

Addnew AN-DivX600 (Asia)
---------------
VERSION     = ??.??.??.??
SUB-VERSION = ??.??.??.??
8032        = ??.??.??.??
Servo       = ??.??.??.??
RISC        = ??.??.??.??
DSP         = ??.??.??.??

Arlink MP-530 (Asia)
---------------
VERSION     = ??.??.??.??
SUB-VERSION = ??.??.??.??
8032        = ??.??.??.??
Servo       = ??.??.??.??
RISC        = ??.??.??.??
DSP         = ??.??.??.??

Gowell Divx-888 (Asia)
---------------
VERSION     = ??.??.??.??
SUB-VERSION = ??.??.??.??
8032        = ??.??.??.??
Servo       = ??.??.??.??
RISC        = ??.??.??.??
DSP         = ??.??.??.??

BBK  DV967 (Asia)
---------------
VERSION     = ??.??.??.??
SUB-VERSION = ??.??.??.??
8032        = ??.??.??.??
Servo       = ??.??.??.??
RISC        = ??.??.??.??
DSP         = ??.??.??.??

Auvion SL-801K (Germany)
---------------
VERSION     = ??.??.??.??
SUB-VERSION = ??.??.??.??
8032        = ??.??.??.??
Servo       = ??.??.??.??
RISC        = ??.??.??.??
DSP         = ??.??.??.?? 

Transcontinent TR-100 (France) 1st update
---------------
VERSION     = 05.00.01.07     05.00.02.06
SUB-VERSION = 54.00.00.07     54.09.00.03
8032        = 05.00.01.07     05.00.02.06
Servo       = 02.06.00.00     02.06.00.00
RISC        = 05.00.01.06     05.00.02.06
DSP         = 03.03.00.14     03.03.00.36

Keyplug 4810 (France)
---------------
VERSION     = ??.??.??.??
SUB-VERSION = ??.??.??.??
8032        = ??.??.??.??
Servo       = ??.??.??.??
RISC        = ??.??.??.??
DSP         = ??.??.??.??

Atacom DV967 (France)
---------------
VERSION     = ??.??.??.??
SUB-VERSION = ??.??.??.??
8032        = ??.??.??.??
Servo       = ??.??.??.??
RISC        = ??.??.??.??
DSP         = ??.??.??.??

Peekton 6003 (France)
---------------
VERSION     = 05.00.01.07
SUB-VERSION = 00.00.00.01
8032        = ??.??.??.??
Servo       = 01.06.00.00
RISC        = ??.??.??.??
DSP         = ??.??.??.??

Technika T1000D (France)
---------------
VERSION     = 05.00.02.02
SUB-VERSION = 54.08.00.02
8032        = 05.00.02.02
Servo       = 02.06.00.00
RISC        = 05.00.02.02
DSP         = 03.03.00.23

Wilson DM1000D (France)
---------------
VERSION     = 05.00.02.02
SUB-VERSION = 54.0A.00.01
8032        = 05.00.02.02
Servo       = 07.02.00.00
RISC        = 05.00.02.02
DSP         = 03.03.00.23

LaFayette DV967 (US/UK ?)
---------------
VERSION     = ??.??.??.??
SUB-VERSION = ??.??.??.??
8032        = ??.??.??.??
Servo       = ??.??.??.??
RISC        = ??.??.??.??
DSP         = ??.??.??.??

Rimax NEW (UK)                1st update
---------------
Version     = 05.00.01.06     05.00.01.06
Sub-Version = 00.00.01.06     00.00.01.06
8032        = 05.00.01.06     05.00.01.06
Servo       = 01.05.01.00     01.05.01.00
RISC        = 05.00.01.06     05.00.02.02
DSP         = 03.03.00.14     03.03.00.23

Yamada DVX6600 (Europe)
---------------
VERSION     = 05.00.02.03
SUB-VERSION = 0B.00.00.02
8032        = ??.??.??.??
Servo       = ??.??.??.??
RISC        = ??.??.??.??
DSP         = ??.??.??.??

NeoDigits NeuNeo Mpeg4 DVD (US)
---------------
VERSION     = ??.??.??.??
SUB-VERSION = ??.??.??.??
8032        = ??.??.??.??
Servo       = ??.??.??.??
RISC        = ??.??.??.??
DSP         = ??.??.??.??

Scott 842
---------------
VERSION     = 05.00.02.02
SUB-VERSION = 00.00.02.02
8032        = 05.00.02.02
Servo       = 01.10.20.00
Risc        = 05.00.02.02
DSP         = 03.03.00.23

Ansonic dixh-ht10 (Spain)
---------------
VERSION     = 05.00.02.06
SUB-VERSION = 64.47.00.02
8032        = 05.00.02.06
Servo       = 02.06.00.00
Risc        = 05.00.02.06
DSP         = 03.03.00.36

DK Digital DVD-339 (UK)
---------------
VERSION     = 05.00.02.04
SUB-VERSION = 44.01.00.03
8032        = 05.00.02.04
Servo       = 02.06.00.00
Risc        = 05.00.02.05
DSP         = 03.03.00.35

Lenco DVD-37 Mpeg 4 (Germany,Netherlands)
---------------
VERSION     = 05.00.02.02
SUB-VER     = 00.00.00.01
8032        = 05.00.02.02
Servo       = 01.10.00.00
Risc        = 05.00.02.02
DSP         = 03.03.00.23

Tests

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Gran Prix/Silva DVD 404-divx


XviD Aloha Gran/Prix MediaTek 1389GE Chip Results

ASP features:

B-frames                                                                   <- WORKS Perfect
Qpel                                                                       <- WORKS Perfect
GMC 3 Warp Point                                                           <- Problems (slow playback see below)

Matrices:
H263                                                                       <- WORKS Perfect
MPEG                                                                       <- WORKS Perfect
HVS                                                                        <- WORKS Perfect

Upsampling (Bleeding Colors)                                               <- No Problems                

Test Videos:

b-frames(2).avi (640x272) 550 kbps                                         <- WORKS Perfect
extreme1.avi (640x346 Qpel B-frames 1/1.50/1 no Sound) 2.7 Mbit CBR        <- WORKS Perfect
extreme1.avi (640x346 Qpel B-frames 1/1.50/1 Mp3 128 Abr) 2.7 Mbit CBR     <- WORKS Perfect
level5.avi   (640x346 Qpel B-frames 1/1.50/1 no Sound) ~1.5 Mbit VBR       <- WORKS Perfect
fullresvbr.avi (720x304 Qpel B-frames 1/1.50/1 no Sound) ~1.5 Mbit VBR     <- WORKS Perfect
rmdfullres.avi (704x576 Qpel B-frames 1/1.50/1 no Sound) 4.8 Mbit CBR      <- WORKS Perfect

gmc-h263.avi      (640x272)                                                <- slideshow
gmc-qpel-hvs.avi  (640x272)                                                <- jerky all the way picture every 5seconds
gmc-qpel-h263.avi (640x272)                                                <- better then the one before still slideshow

used Source:

640x272 = Pearl Harbour Test Sequence Low Motion-High Motion (DVD)
640x346 = Matrix Reloaded Trailer (Sorenson 3 Ultra Trailer Resized) (Matroska Techdemo)
720x304 = Pearl Harbour Test Sequence Low Motion-High Motion (DVD)
704x576 = Romeo Must Die Trailer (DVD)

DivX 3.11 Gran/Prix MediaTek 1389GE Chip Results

smart bitrate controll intro (DivX 3.11 SBC 640x272  Mp3 160 kbps CBR) 1 Mbit     <- WORKS Perfect
shaggy.avi                   (DivX 3.11 SBC 576x416  Mp3 192 kbps ABR) 1.3 Mbit   <- WORKS Perfect
lenya.avi                    (DivX 3.11 SBC 512x304) Mp3 192 kbps VBR) 2.7 Mbit   <- WORKS Perfect


Problems:
Desync from the beginning with CBR Mp3 muxed Movies (very old rips). (fixed latest firmware)
Speedup/Slowdown problems most probably overheating or EMF problems occouring randomly. (GE based Player)
Scaling wrong (not really that noticeable). (fixed latest firmware)
Packed Bitstream with more then 1 B-frames doesn't work
at least the CBR Mp3 problem and the Scaling probs seem to be fixed with the newest firmware for DE
and GE based player.

if you have more infos about the Chip (Specifications) Firmware or any other Info about coming players or Tests
please don't wait to post them Please be aware that these Players are in somekind of a Beta Status and
when you think about buying one you'll most likely buy a thing wich could be outdated really fast.

The Elta 8883 DE is Assembled different then the GE based Players the MT Chip lies beneath the loader and on the
others it's a the right site, could be an indication that the GE Chip has little heat problems as allready assumed here
by some french folks
http://tototeseb.9online.fr/onatester/liteon7457.htm

Warning: Most GE Based Player die after a Firmware update so be carefull even if you get the original
(btw the firmware is not done by the sellers it's done by MediaTek) This could also be the reason why
GE based Player most times are cheaper then DE Based Player for example. To my knowledge the
GE based assembly cost the sellers arround 40 and are sold @ arround 80 and the DE based player 60
and are sold @ 120 i have no real confirmation for this values yet.

Announced GE Firmware: Atacom DV967,Nevir 2046 (2nd), Medion 7457 (2nd)
Announced DE Firmware: Elta 8883 (2nd (OGG),Yamada DVX6600 (OGG,AVI subs)

GE Chip Bugs: Speedup/Slowdown @ playback random problem (seems to be fixed with latest firmware !!)
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Hi CruNcher,

Thanks for posting such detailed info.

I can't remember anyone asking before but how good are these players at spinning RAW Mpeg1 and 2 encodes?

I gather, that a firmware upgrade is already available for the Elta 8883. Do you know if it's an official or unofficial upgrade?

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Official enhancement list of firmware for elta 8883:

Modification:
DVD/VCD/SVCD/CDDA/mp3/Divx4.x/5.x playback
Divx3.11 support
SRT/SSA/SMI divx subtitle support
multi-language support(English,German,French,Italian,Spanish and
Russian)
.jpeg,.jpe(for JPG file) and .divx(for divx file) extension
 > support 6) restore the value of setting(STOP+BWD+FWD) 7)OGG and WAV file playback

WMA file playback
Hot keys for setting DVD region code and
480P/576P/720P/1080i video output
Auto DVD audio/subtitle selection
Improved DivX 3.11 Codec
PCM Audioformat in AVI-Files is supported


EDIT: Link removed! Don't update!

This article (german) also states ogg support.

Let's see if I can pluck up the courage to try this one on my Gran Prix.

@CruNcher: I haven't forgotten the DAR sample, I'll try it tomorrow

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Hmm,

The firmware upgrade I found was not nearly as big as this. It comprised of an .doc file totalling 247KB and an MKT.BIN file totalling 1,015KB

Me thinks we have the makings of a couple of Moderators for this section of the forum..... About time too!

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Just did a diff on the 2 firmware isos (the one for the 8882 and the other one for the 8883) and they are identical.
So I don't think it is the same as the the one which was released (unofficially?) two days ago.
Maybe the smaller one is far more hardware specific. Furthermore you had to call the UpdateCD MEDIATEK.
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OK.

Although I have not, as yet, purchased one of these standalone players myself.

I would hate to think that some owners might be encouraged to upgrade their players with outdated/unofficial firmware!

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Must be an error, it would probably destroy your player if you use the sigma update on a mediatek player.
According to another board elta has been informed of the mistake.

SO DON'T UPGRADE YOUR 8883!
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It was the firmware for the 8882, for the 8883 theres only the unoffical update.
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Official update will be back online tomorrow as golem wrote after talking with Elta Today!
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DSP,8032,Servo and Risc updates come as it looks like directly from MediaTek.
the other enhancements are on a Sub-Level this is also indicated by the firmware marked as Sub-Version.
Firmware updates between the Gran Prix, Lifetec and the coming Medion should be the same (GE) only the Sub-Version will change (most likelie gui things) the question now are the decissions about what container support is made available also definable in these Sub-Version region (so Elta could change it with they Embedded Programmers "do they have such guys ??" or most likelie it is in the hands of MediaTek and ESS to integrate those capabilities on request ?
Problem now with the (GE) Chip could be that it was a Prototype Chip and that it's maybe not anymore working with (DE) updates so updating a (GE) chip based player with a (DE) Firmware could possibly lead to lose of functionality or "dissengaging" of the player if we dont get a statement on what the (GE) chip is "chips that getting to hot and fallen out of the production "DivX Certification" and sold for lower prices but still compatible with (DE) updates ?" i would not risk it maybe if i had a orginal firmware as backup.

Anyone has the Elta updated ? what does the Servo show in the updated firmware ?
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Hallo,
I have an italian clone of Elta 8883, whose name is Amstrad 3016dx, it is different for active optical escape
firmaware is:
VERSION =05.00.01.06
SUB-VERSION =00.00.01.06
8032 =05.00.01.06
RISC =05.00.01.06
DSP =03.03.00.14
REGION FREE

its price is 99 euro......

you thoughts that are upgradable with firmaware elta...?

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that sounds good but this is only still a theory the other problem is we dont know yet how then Special OEM things like the Optical output are handled so if they are defined in the SUB-Version you could possibly lose that capability of your Player after an Elta firmware update. You could try it but you risking your Player if you do, but when nobody tries it we never find out i assume from you firmware that this Amstrad is a DE based Player ? And its clear that i take no resposibility for any damages this might cause and be aware even if it works you could lose the Optical output and then without a base firmware you can't get it back. Could you please also post your Servo version ?
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@cruncher: actually these Aldi players are DivX certified according to DXn.
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Sorry I was distracted..,in the Amstrad dx3016 with MT1389DE
0343-AWS

Servo =01.05.01.00

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The actual Firmware for the elta is this:

Version = 05.00.02.02
Sub-Version = 00.00.00.01
8032 = 05.00.02.02
Servo = 01.07.00.00
RISC = 05.00.02.02
DSP = 03.03.00.23
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Quote:
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Sorry I was distracted..,in the Amstrad dx3016 with MT1389DE
0343-AWS

Servo =01.05.01.00

AMSTRAD!!!

Wow, Alan Sugar strikes again.

This player should be in UK stores soon.

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Doom9 their are many DivX Players gone arround on Aldi not only MediaTek based ones and to my knowledge (press Release MediaTek) only those Chips that listed above got certified even if i myself don't hold much from DXNs Certification that let suspect that this Chip has some uknown problems.

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@cruncher: I asked the DXn specifically about my Gran Prix player
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btw, the firmware update that is mentioned in the news on the main page with subtitle/... support is not for the 8883, its for the 8882.
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Are there any sites that will ship to the US? Or that are in english. I'd love to get my hands on one of these.

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