seems the elta 8883 is out now

Doom9 · 3rd December 2003, 08:58

http://shop.plus.de/is-bin/INTERSHOP...B&KID=22200102

I wonder if they ship abroad..

SeeMoreDigital · 4th December 2003, 15:25

It's nice to see from elta's specification, that this player supports DVD-Audio!

I wonder what else it can do, that the competition (Grand Prix & Ascomtec DVD-3004) can't?

Cheers

Zhnujm · 4th December 2003, 16:09

Seems it got one today

Plays pretty much the same as the grand prix.
Does not play xvid gmc, divx audio and .srt subtitles (have not tried others)

Definitly the best divx player i had (and i have had a Sigma and an ESS player)

Doom9 · 4th December 2003, 16:10

elta has told me about some future plans for alternative audio and container formats but I don't have the mail with me now. as for DVD audio I'm still trying to get official confirmation.

GizmoDerMokwai · 4th December 2003, 19:04

does it support b-frames?

Zhnujm · 4th December 2003, 19:40

I just made some tests with Xvid 1.0 and it cannot play files with bframes>1 smooth.
DivX with bframes is ok.

bond · 4th December 2003, 21:15

XviD 1.0b1 is buggy and i wouldnt use it for testing! try some older dev-api3 builds

Zhnujm · 4th December 2003, 22:36

I have only tried 1.0 because it was the same with older builds

But i have not used a devapi build before, maybe i try this.

SeeMoreDigital · 4th December 2003, 23:05

Hi Zhnujm,

Are you able to confirm the chipset in the player. Is it the MediaTek MT1389?

Can it play DVD Audio?

Can it play RAW Mpeg1 and/or 2 encodes

Can it recognise the MP4 container?

Cheers

Zhnujm · 5th December 2003, 18:12

It is the MediaTek 1389 chipset.
Plays of course mpeg1/2 files, but no mp4.
Dont know if ot supports DVD-Audio, i dont have such a disk

mcentee · 5th December 2003, 23:44

Well, I nearly made a "mistake" and ordered the Elta - but this by only browsing the www.alphaundomega.com website (Austrian). Its all in German and I don't speak the lingo.

Try it if you want one, and see if they deliver - I didn't put in any credit card details etc like ususal but I got a confirmation with a UK address.

At 199 Euros + delivery I thought I would wait a while until the MTK settles down a bit - see what the support is like.

Zhnujm · 11th December 2003, 15:28

btw, it does NOT support DVD-Audio, even if its written (in really big letters) on the package.

Doom9 · 11th December 2003, 15:46

Quote:

does NOT support DVD-Audio

Thought so.. DVD audio capable players are still in the upper price regions. Interestingly enough, I never got an answer to that specific question from elta (I do have something about their future firmware plans though.. @SeeMoreDigital: MP4 is not on that list).

SeeMoreDigital · 11th December 2003, 16:12

Yep, the DVD audio part in Elta original link has now been removed!

Shame really.

Cheers

Zhnujm · 11th December 2003, 17:23

Quote:

Originally posted by Doom9
(I do have something about their future firmware plans though.. @SeeMoreDigital: MP4 is not on that list).

I would be happy if a simple subtitle solution (.srt or something ) is on that list...

SeeMoreDigital · 11th December 2003, 17:34

Quote:

Originally posted by Doom9
...I do have something about their future firmware plans though.. @SeeMoreDigital: MP4 is not on that list).

Bummer!

My plans for world domination have been scuppered again!

Cheers

Doom9 · 11th December 2003, 19:33

there's WMA in AVI (4 weeks), Ogg media (2 months), srt subs (I presume.. and I didn't get a date) and as for 3 warppoint GMC, they're looking into that without a timeframe.

SeeMoreDigital · 11th December 2003, 19:43

Quote:

Originally posted by Doom9
there's WMA in AVI (4 weeks), Ogg media (2 months), srt subs (I presume.. and I didn't get a date) and as for 3 warppoint GMC, they're looking into that without a timeframe.

WMA in AVI! I thought quite a few standalones could spin WMA streams anyway. Can your existing Elta not do this?

How difficult is this to do. I wonder if 6Ch WMA streams in an AVI would work too!

I think it would be quite cool to have both WMV and WMA streams in an AVI.

Cheers

Doom9 · 11th December 2003, 20:20

I don't think I have a single DivX with WMA audio (I did a few movies with it.. and while I'm not an audio freak I could definitely hear the bad audio quality so I quickly gave up on that). I'll see if I find something to throw at my players (yes, I got the Gran Prix

SeeMoreDigital · 11th December 2003, 20:31

Quote:

Originally posted by Doom9
yes, I got the Gran Prix

Blimey... That was quick!

3rd December 2003, 08:58	#1 \| Link
Doom9 clueless n00b Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: somewhere over the rainbow Posts: 10,258	seems the elta 8883 is out now http://shop.plus.de/is-bin/INTERSHOP...B&KID=22200102 I wonder if they ship abroad.. __________________ For the web's most comprehensive collection of DVD backup guides go to www.doom9.org

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SeeMoreDigital Life looks better in HDTV Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: UK Posts: 10,009	It's nice to see from elta's specification, that this player supports DVD-Audio! I wonder what else it can do, that the competition (Grand Prix & Ascomtec DVD-3004) can't? Cheers __________________ Still confused about anamorphic images? Then look here! \| Main Encoding Interests: Hardware device playback \| My Gear \|

4th December 2003, 16:10	#4 \| Link
Doom9 clueless n00b Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: somewhere over the rainbow Posts: 10,258	elta has told me about some future plans for alternative audio and container formats but I don't have the mail with me now. as for DVD audio I'm still trying to get official confirmation. __________________ For the web's most comprehensive collection of DVD backup guides go to www.doom9.org

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SeeMoreDigital Life looks better in HDTV Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: UK Posts: 10,009	Hi Zhnujm, Are you able to confirm the chipset in the player. Is it the MediaTek MT1389? Can it play DVD Audio? Can it play RAW Mpeg1 and/or 2 encodes Can it recognise the MP4 container? Cheers __________________ Still confused about anamorphic images? Then look here! \| Main Encoding Interests: Hardware device playback \| My Gear \|

4th December 2003, 16:09	#3 \| Link
Zhnujm Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 983	Seems it got one today Plays pretty much the same as the grand prix. Does not play xvid gmc, divx audio and .srt subtitles (have not tried others) Definitly the best divx player i had (and i have had a Sigma and an ESS player)

4th December 2003, 19:04	#5 \| Link
GizmoDerMokwai ..uses Linux now... Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 109	does it support b-frames?

4th December 2003, 19:40	#6 \| Link
Zhnujm Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 983	I just made some tests with Xvid 1.0 and it cannot play files with bframes>1 smooth. DivX with bframes is ok.

4th December 2003, 22:36	#8 \| Link
Zhnujm Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 983	I have only tried 1.0 because it was the same with older builds But i have not used a devapi build before, maybe i try this.

5th December 2003, 18:12	#10 \| Link
Zhnujm Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 983	It is the MediaTek 1389 chipset. Plays of course mpeg1/2 files, but no mp4. Dont know if ot supports DVD-Audio, i dont have such a disk

5th December 2003, 23:44	#11 \| Link
mcentee Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 35	Well, I nearly made a "mistake" and ordered the Elta - but this by only browsing the www.alphaundomega.com website (Austrian). Its all in German and I don't speak the lingo. Try it if you want one, and see if they deliver - I didn't put in any credit card details etc like ususal but I got a confirmation with a UK address. At 199 Euros + delivery I thought I would wait a while until the MTK settles down a bit - see what the support is like.

11th December 2003, 15:28	#12 \| Link
Zhnujm Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 983	btw, it does NOT support DVD-Audio, even if its written (in really big letters) on the package.

11th December 2003, 16:12	#14 \| Link
SeeMoreDigital Life looks better in HDTV Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: UK Posts: 10,009	Yep, the DVD audio part in Elta original link has now been removed! Shame really. Cheers __________________ Still confused about anamorphic images? Then look here! \| Main Encoding Interests: Hardware device playback \| My Gear \|

11th December 2003, 19:33	#17 \| Link
Doom9 clueless n00b Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: somewhere over the rainbow Posts: 10,258	there's WMA in AVI (4 weeks), Ogg media (2 months), srt subs (I presume.. and I didn't get a date) and as for 3 warppoint GMC, they're looking into that without a timeframe. __________________ For the web's most comprehensive collection of DVD backup guides go to www.doom9.org

11th December 2003, 20:20	#19 \| Link
Doom9 clueless n00b Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: somewhere over the rainbow Posts: 10,258	I don't think I have a single DivX with WMA audio (I did a few movies with it.. and while I'm not an audio freak I could definitely hear the bad audio quality so I quickly gave up on that). I'll see if I find something to throw at my players (yes, I got the Gran Prix __________________ For the web's most comprehensive collection of DVD backup guides go to www.doom9.org

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