DVD Shrink 3.0 Beta 3

dvdshrink · 10th August 2003, 16:47

DVD Shrink 3.0 Beta 3 is now available.

http://www.dvdshrink.org/

The changes are:

Version 3.0 Beta 3 - 10 Aug 2003

Fixed "big-endian" bug in re-author mode which prevented re-author of multiple titles from correctly playing back in sequence. They do now :-)

Apologies to all those who just downloaded Beta 2.

69Mws · 10th August 2003, 17:11

There's a saying in Germany like "all good things are three" or something like that, don't know how to translate it better

Greetz
69Mws

dvdshrink · 10th August 2003, 17:15

Usually we say "third time lucky"...
All dvd shrink releases have been in groups of three. Strange.

Viper32 · 10th August 2003, 17:32

Well I would love to try it but I cannot get to the download link to save my life. Help?

Viper

insertdisk · 10th August 2003, 17:40

http://www.dvdshrink.org/misc/dvdshrink30beta3.zip

nyplayer · 10th August 2003, 18:40

If I open a DVD and want to reauthor it and select just the main Movie why does DVD Shrink open a new window??

komanch · 10th August 2003, 18:55

Dvdshrink how can I translate another language version and send you for upgrade?

luphy · 10th August 2003, 19:09

Nyplayer,

When choosing re-author, Shrink will open a new window so you can drag and drop the title that you want to use. Or you can copy and paste the title from the main one to the new window.
I have not tried it yet but this is so that people can drag and drop titlesets from different DVD's I think.

daehkcid · 10th August 2003, 19:12

I have a question, will the quality of transcoding in the final version have any improvement over the betas? if yes, i'll wait to rip my movies, if no, then i'll do them now :P

brush · 10th August 2003, 19:16

Good question mate

dvdshrink · 10th August 2003, 19:36

Do them now, and send me the bug reports

No immediate plans for transcode engine improvements, nor any bright ideas, but that's not to say there won't be any - its more of a trial-and-error slow evolution, rather than "it's going to be X much better in two weeks" thing.

daehkcid · 10th August 2003, 19:53

I've found this problem with the 2.3 version.

I opened MATRIX from the DVD drive.
I ripped it to my HD with the movie only (no menues).
I reopen MATRIX from my HD drive.

DVDShrink says: "Error opening/missing files" and it opens the menus/extras folder. Does that mean that DVDShrink use the logs from the DVD to open the one from the HD that actually have no menus and extras and then reports there's error?

Sorry for the worst english ever on this board.

brush · 10th August 2003, 20:15

Quote:

Originally posted by daehkcid
I have a question, will the quality of transcoding in the final version have any improvement over the betas? if yes, i'll wait to rip my movies, if no, then i'll do them now :P

Don't wait any more, DVD shrink is such a good transcoder for the majority of movies, so use the new versions

brush · 10th August 2003, 20:18

Quote:

Originally posted by daehkcid
DVDShrink says: "Error opening/missing files" and it opens the menus/extras folder. Does that mean that DVDShrink use the logs from the DVD to open the one from the HD that actually have no menus and extras and then reports there's error?

Don't try to rip directly with shrink , USE DVD DECRYPTER instead in FILES mode ( CTRL +A )

I think it is no worth talking about other Shrink versions , but only the new version ( 3.0 )from now on

The 2.3 shrink version is past, even if it is a good version

mikegun · 10th August 2003, 20:22

Quote:

Originally posted by brush

I think it is no worth talking about other Shrink versions

esp. in this thread ;-)

daehkcid · 10th August 2003, 20:26

Brush, I did not rip with DVDShrink, I just open the .IFO with DVDShrink. I indeed ripped MATRIX with Decrypter but movie only. But when opening Shrink, it tries to open the extras and menus folders (which are nonexistant).

Dont know if this is stil in 3.0 B, but i'll check it out.

snidely · 10th August 2003, 21:38

Quote:

I indeed ripped MATRIX with Decrypter but movie only.

Never rip in "movie only" mode. When you rip, choose either ISO or "full disc" files mode, just so that you don't run into the kinds of problems like you already have. If all the files are present, DVDShrink (as well as most other programs) will be very happy that you did, and then you can manipulate your rip any way you see fit.

octron2003 · 10th August 2003, 22:05

question about the layerbreak, as dvdschrink doesn't remove it, i wanna ask if the following is possible, re encode with dvdschrink and then use dvd2dvd-r to re-author it (without re-encoding) to remove the layerbreak (ifoedit) or is this just asking for problems, i tried it with silence of lambs, first time if run perfect on a standalone, now player refuses to play it.

greetings
jan

The Belgain · 10th August 2003, 22:26

Great job on getting another beta out so fast dvdshrink! Just a slight feature request: when opening a DVD directly from a DVD drive, and recoding it with deep analysis, the DVD gets read twice. Also on a fast machine, CPU utilisation is not 100% since the DVD drive can't send the movie information fast enough.

To both speed up the process (by a little bit) and to lengthen the DVD drive's life, would it be possible that on the first pass (the "deep analysis" pass that is) the program both does the analysis and copies the DVD files from the DVD drive to the hard disc at the same time?

This would mean that the first pass would take the same amount of time as before (and be read directly from the DVD), and the second pass would be quicker since the information would be read from the hard disc only (and this would also put less strain on the DVD drive).

Would this be easy/possible to implement? Maybe it could be put as an option, so that people who do not have enough disc space to do this can use the program as before?

Just a suggestion...

dmfreck · 10th August 2003, 22:27

I'll just add my 2 cents to this thread since the old beta 2 thread is now dead: my experience with the video quality of 3.0 beta X has been a fantastic one so far. I went back to a scene in Braveheart that gave both shrink 2.3 and recode problems with macro-blocking (recode being slightly better in quality) DVDshrink 3.0 handles it like a champ - much better than either of the aforementioned. I consider myself very picky about the quality of my backups, and although I know there's no "magic bullet" in the one-click realm for every film and every situation, I really like what I'm seing here. Great product!

-M

P.S. I did, indeed, use the deep analysis on Braveheart. I guess for the extra 10-15 minutes of time it's an absolute must-have. Can't see shrinking a movie without it now.

*edit* Sorry for cross-posting this info. I guess I figured there will be questions about the quality of the new version(s), so if beta 3 is around for a while I wanted to chime in on the appropriate thread.

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dvdshrink Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 176	DVD Shrink 3.0 Beta 3 DVD Shrink 3.0 Beta 3 is now available. http://www.dvdshrink.org/ The changes are: Version 3.0 Beta 3 - 10 Aug 2003 Fixed "big-endian" bug in re-author mode which prevented re-author of multiple titles from correctly playing back in sequence. They do now :-) Apologies to all those who just downloaded Beta 2.

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69Mws Big 3 Padawan Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 350	There's a saying in Germany like "all good things are three" or something like that, don't know how to translate it better Greetz 69Mws __________________ And so it begins...

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octron2003 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 17	la question about the layerbreak, as dvdschrink doesn't remove it, i wanna ask if the following is possible, re encode with dvdschrink and then use dvd2dvd-r to re-author it (without re-encoding) to remove the layerbreak (ifoedit) or is this just asking for problems, i tried it with silence of lambs, first time if run perfect on a standalone, now player refuses to play it. greetings jan

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dmfreck Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 5	I'll just add my 2 cents to this thread since the old beta 2 thread is now dead: my experience with the video quality of 3.0 beta X has been a fantastic one so far. I went back to a scene in Braveheart that gave both shrink 2.3 and recode problems with macro-blocking (recode being slightly better in quality) DVDshrink 3.0 handles it like a champ - much better than either of the aforementioned. I consider myself very picky about the quality of my backups, and although I know there's no "magic bullet" in the one-click realm for every film and every situation, I really like what I'm seing here. Great product! -M P.S. I did, indeed, use the deep analysis on Braveheart. I guess for the extra 10-15 minutes of time it's an absolute must-have. Can't see shrinking a movie without it now. edit Sorry for cross-posting this info. I guess I figured there will be questions about the quality of the new version(s), so if beta 3 is around for a while I wanted to chime in on the appropriate thread. Last edited by dmfreck; 11th August 2003 at 00:16.

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10th August 2003, 17:15	#3 \| Link
dvdshrink Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 176	Usually we say "third time lucky"... All dvd shrink releases have been in groups of three. Strange.

10th August 2003, 17:32	#4 \| Link
Viper32 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 4	Well I would love to try it but I cannot get to the download link to save my life. Help? Viper

10th August 2003, 17:40	#5 \| Link
insertdisk Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 42	http://www.dvdshrink.org/misc/dvdshrink30beta3.zip

10th August 2003, 18:40	#6 \| Link
nyplayer Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 94	If I open a DVD and want to reauthor it and select just the main Movie why does DVD Shrink open a new window??

10th August 2003, 18:55	#7 \| Link
komanch Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Europe Posts: 86	Dvdshrink how can I translate another language version and send you for upgrade?

10th August 2003, 19:09	#8 \| Link
luphy Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 121	Nyplayer, When choosing re-author, Shrink will open a new window so you can drag and drop the title that you want to use. Or you can copy and paste the title from the main one to the new window. I have not tried it yet but this is so that people can drag and drop titlesets from different DVD's I think.

10th August 2003, 19:12	#9 \| Link
daehkcid Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 151	I have a question, will the quality of transcoding in the final version have any improvement over the betas? if yes, i'll wait to rip my movies, if no, then i'll do them now :P

10th August 2003, 19:16	#10 \| Link
brush Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 30	Good question mate

10th August 2003, 19:36	#11 \| Link
dvdshrink Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 176	Do them now, and send me the bug reports No immediate plans for transcode engine improvements, nor any bright ideas, but that's not to say there won't be any - its more of a trial-and-error slow evolution, rather than "it's going to be X much better in two weeks" thing.

10th August 2003, 19:53	#12 \| Link
daehkcid Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 151	I've found this problem with the 2.3 version. I opened MATRIX from the DVD drive. I ripped it to my HD with the movie only (no menues). I reopen MATRIX from my HD drive. DVDShrink says: "Error opening/missing files" and it opens the menus/extras folder. Does that mean that DVDShrink use the logs from the DVD to open the one from the HD that actually have no menus and extras and then reports there's error? Sorry for the worst english ever on this board.

10th August 2003, 20:26	#16 \| Link
daehkcid Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 151	Brush, I did not rip with DVDShrink, I just open the .IFO with DVDShrink. I indeed ripped MATRIX with Decrypter but movie only. But when opening Shrink, it tries to open the extras and menus folders (which are nonexistant). Dont know if this is stil in 3.0 B, but i'll check it out.

10th August 2003, 22:26	#19 \| Link
The Belgain Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: UK Posts: 335	Great job on getting another beta out so fast dvdshrink! Just a slight feature request: when opening a DVD directly from a DVD drive, and recoding it with deep analysis, the DVD gets read twice. Also on a fast machine, CPU utilisation is not 100% since the DVD drive can't send the movie information fast enough. To both speed up the process (by a little bit) and to lengthen the DVD drive's life, would it be possible that on the first pass (the "deep analysis" pass that is) the program both does the analysis and copies the DVD files from the DVD drive to the hard disc at the same time? This would mean that the first pass would take the same amount of time as before (and be read directly from the DVD), and the second pass would be quicker since the information would be read from the hard disc only (and this would also put less strain on the DVD drive). Would this be easy/possible to implement? Maybe it could be put as an option, so that people who do not have enough disc space to do this can use the program as before? Just a suggestion...