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Old 8th May 2003, 17:32   #21  |  Link
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cause i have the scripts all set, i'll run the tests...
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Old 8th May 2003, 18:05   #22  |  Link
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I tried b10 with 2 different xvid versions installed and b09 with the color conversion. The result for 20k frames is that there's no noticeable speed difference. So the only nice thing about the new version is that you are no longer forced to add an extra line to your avisynth script.
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Old 8th May 2003, 18:18   #23  |  Link
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The Results:
Below ypu can find the detailed Setup plus the 2(4 w conversion) Scrips i used.
First column ist the max Speed Rate, second column ist the visual Average after CCE spinned up to max (2000 Frames).


XSVCD AVS converted: 0.88 0.87
XSVCD CCE converted: 0.78 0.78

SVCD AVS converted: 1.14 1.14
SVCD CCE converted: 1.04 1.04

Well for me in CBR (where the speed factor is little less than in a pass of the 2pass modes (??)) the AVS without conversion was slower then the the AVS with Conversion. However the clips all looked the same (except f. the resolution)..
No failure at all.



Source:
First i chose 2501 Frames Clips, but it turned out to be to short, because it took the CCE 1500-2500 Frames to "spin-up":
Source was PAL interlaced, included Operations to retain the Fields in AVS; used Lanczos Resizing and standard cropp.
Used 2 different Destination Formats: 704*576 and 480*576
Script:


Settings:
Standard Matrix
DC Precision 9 and Non-linear Quantscale
VBR Bias: 30
1 Pass CBR 2520 (w Video an Video Information File)
Encoded Interlaced with Alternate Block Scanning Order
Low Pass Filter Off
Effect restricted vertikal Filter off
Dithered Quant Off
Quantizer Caracteristics 17:
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AVS Script SVCD

LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\AviSynth\AviSynth 2.51\PluginLoad\MPEG2DEC3\mpeg2dec3.dll")
mpeg2source("D:\Afrika\vts_01.d2v",iPP=true)
SeparateFields()
LanczosResize(480,160,0,37,720,214).Weave()
AddBorders(0,128,0,128)
Trim(20000,-4000)


AVS Script SVCD

LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\AviSynth\AviSynth 2.51\PluginLoad\MPEG2DEC3\mpeg2dec3.dll")
mpeg2source("D:\Afrika\vts_01.d2v",iPP=true)
SeparateFields()
LanczosResize(704,160,4,36,712,216).Weave()
AddBorders(0,128,0,128)
Trim(20000,-4000)

P.S.: Have you ever seen an interlaced DVD Source with ZigZag Block scanning Order??

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Old 12th May 2003, 12:42   #24  |  Link
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my cce decodes yv12 and has never complained ( i didnt even relize it was a problem till i decided to offload some cce stuff on another system ) .. after looking at my registry i noticed that it uses ATIYUV12.DLL for the vidc.yv12 key ... this is part of my ati video capture card ( useing ver 7.1 of ATI's software ) .. one thing i have noticed is that cce has been alot slower than expected for the last 6 months ( about as long as i've had the ATI card ) .. ben getting speeds of 0.51 in cce and i have a dual cpu amd board .. so i'm going to try it with the convertto.. line in my avs script and see what the speed of that is.
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Old 12th May 2003, 13:24   #25  |  Link
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ok this is what i've found ...

the avi dll and the dvix dll are about the same speed.
ConvertToYUV2() is defenitly faster
here is another quirk i figured out .. options in CCE the try to decode in YUY2 option .. with it on i get a decent speed ( 1.5 ) with it NOT checked off i get 0.7 speed .. i have no idea what this option does in cce .. but needless to say i'm leaving it checked.
I still expect sightly faster speeds from this system but for now i can live with it as it is now.

BTW useing cce 2.66
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Old 12th May 2003, 14:30   #26  |  Link
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this sounds interesting... i was wanting to test it too... but when i go to download page it only appears 2.66 in visible light or the upgrade... this refered upgrade does not upgrade my trial/demo version 2.66.00.07.

It always outputs an error saying it did not found the folder, even thought tne folder is there... and in case you're wondering... NO i did not hack/crack/whatever my demo of 2.66.00.07... so, and hopping it is not illegal to ask this... where is the demo of 2.67 for download?

Thnaks in advanced,

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Old 12th May 2003, 20:57   #27  |  Link
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Originally posted by Gant
this sounds interesting... i was wanting to test it too... but when i go to download page it only appears 2.66 in visible light or the upgrade... this refered upgrade does not upgrade my trial/demo version 2.66.00.07.

Thnaks in advanced,

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I had the same failure, when dl the 2.66 Version, disabling my firewall solved the problem....

The Version 2.67 you will have to dl from the japan site...
its sthg. like www.cinemacraft.com/jp oder www.cinemacraft.com/en/jp
This Version you can dl directly without going to visiblelight...


I don't have any RegEntry for the Vidc.YV12, which is really strange, because it still gets decoded in CCE 2.67

Greets,
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thank you both for the fast and helpfull replies.

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