New DVD 9 to 5 program: DVD Shrink 1.02

[PeterMac]

While this program is the most professional looking I've seen of this type, it has one drawback for me. I cannot create a re-authored DVD with menus. If I leave out any title sets, I can only play what's left sequentially. To get menus, I must re-encode the whole disc. True, I can tinker with audio/subtitle settings and optionally drop some of those, but that's not enough.
Perhaps the excellent author - whoever he or she may be - will be able to add this later. When that's done, the program will be invincible!

-Pete

[gdmartin]

Originally posted by Antonio S.
DVD Shrink 1.02

First was DVD2one...
Second was Pinnacle InstantCopy...
Third was DVD95Copy...

And now there is DVD Shrink 1.02...Does anyone try it?
I think it is a similar program that re-encodes and strip streams in order to make a 1:1 DVD copy. The best of all is that is FREE.

More information here:http://www.dvdr-digest.com/software/...file=dvdshrink

Antonio S.

I tried to download the program but so far I had no luck. Seeing this is a FREE program, can someone who has it, put it in the download section of the forum?

[Indo]

disable your firewall and download again

[mck3nzi3]

Anyone can post a mirror...from dvd-r digest I can't donwload it !
Since the program is freeware anyone can send it on my mail mckenzie@freemail.it

More thanx!

[Indo]

it's in your mailbox

Indo

[scying]

I cannot download the program dvdshrink from the dvddigest website. Would appreciate reciving the program in mail from someone who has it already. Thanks.



S.C. Ying

[scying]

OOps! Forgot to include my email address in my last message.


ying@physics.brown.edu

[MackemX]

for those who can't get it, there's a link at VCDhelp

LINK

hosted by a guy called Porto

[MackemX]

I've uploaded it up for people who can't get it

LINK

NJOY

[poweroftheplum]

I tested this out on Reign of Fire (PAL region 4)

Has anyone been able to add a menu and just the movie? I selected all the menus (wich you have to add one by one)but when i tested the end product the menu had obviously remapped itself wrong. It seems to be stuck in 'scene select', clicking anywhere brings it back to 'scene select'.

The main movie came out wonderful at level 1 (23%), but i prefer to have menus with my movies. Anyone else had any luck?


j.


EDIT: i think i may have to just add the WARNING/COPYRIGHT intros. Ill try it again.

[mpucoder]

Tried this out myself last night, it's good, but has a few quirks. The movie I chose has a main movie of 5.3G. First I did re-author to select the main movie AND menu (there's a checkbox). Since the movie would not fit the program then brought me to re-encode, did a scan of the movie, and offered me 4 compression ratios. None of these was what I wanted, and I saw no way to change it, so I took the least compression that would fit. This resulted in a 3.9G DVD, with NO menu.
I haven't viewed the entire movie yet, but what I saw was quite acceptable. The re-encoding took about 14 minutes on a Athlon XP 1700+, less than the time to burn.

I had already ripped this movie to HD, so I don't know if the program can decrypt. Has anyone tried using a DVD as source?

[poweroftheplum]

The check box just brings up the menus in the pull down list, from wich you then have to select one by one. Wich is a pain in the anus :P because i dont know about your eyesite but i cant really make out anything in the preview scroller.

I selected everything with menu in it, but my menu seems to of been put back together wrong.


j.

I need a few extra videos i think, like the warning video and the touchstone intro. But im lost and i have a headache, i think i might go to bed and just IC this movie (Reign of fire PAL reg4). :|

[mrbass]

freakin awesome....in this case better than dvdtoolbox. Remember the Titans NTSC R1. If I were to strip out all audio except English 5.1 I would get 4.48G. Well I can do same thing with dvdshrink...bonus is I left about 1 min of credits and cut out the rest which brings dvd down to 4.24GB and 'no compression'. Sweet total time to process it was 6 mins.

BTW, dvdshrink uses different transcoding algorithms than dvd2one and dvd95copy. They seem to do a bitrate reduction based on each frame (I have no idea just guessing) but that's probably how they achieve a exact 4.36GB.

quote from dvdshrink:
The re-encode interface - there is a need for finer control of the encode level. I'll look into it. Actually I only have one re-encode algorithm. The level determines which pictures it operates on:

Level 1 = light compression of b-pictures
Level 2 = heavier compression of b-pictures
Level 3 = Level 2 + compression of P-pictures
Level 4 = Level 3 + compression of I-pictures

Anyway I did a movie with main movie only + 5.1 audio is 6.36GB and I had to choose level 3 which brought it down to 3.85GB. Looks mighty good on PowerDVD and I couldn't see any macroblocks. I'm gonna do a dvd2one comparison and see how it stacks up to 4.36GB dvd2one encode of the same movie.

So far Level 3 looks pretty good...I don't know if Level 4 would look good or not...have to try it.

[Antonio S.]

@mrbass:

This "level" options is the weakness of this program. It is very annoyng, especially when one level compress too much and the next one doesn't compress enough. To solve this, he must add more levels to choose from, or add a variable compress option (to choose the exact value to fill completely a DVD-R). Also it is needed a lower "level" of compression (60-70% for the extras), leaving more space for the main title.

Antonio S.

[mrbass]

For me it's to early to tell. It could end of being it's strength. It'll have more of a uniform quality throughout the entire movie. People (raise their voices) because I pick out certain frames of a movie in dvd2one that show macroblocks like crazy and they say that doesn't represent how it looks overall. I'll attempt to do the same with dvdshrink and pick see if I can't find macroblocks too.

Also dvd95copy and dvd2one use around 30% CPU while DVDShrink uses close to 100%. So there is definitely something different (algorithms) etc. Dvd95copy nor dvd2one will reveal exactly which algorithms they use (proprietary company secret) while dvdshrink has already stated the computational formulas and algorithms he uses.

[int 21h]

The difference in compression levels explains that Compare() output I got then. The I frames weren't being recompressed at level 3, so they had 0 difference in them.

[GooglyBear]

Originally posted by mrbass
Well I just finished watching the entire Ever After movie (and yes the layer break was not removed...I'm glad it isn't too) with my wife..it's close to 1am now and I didn't notice any macro blocks (and yes there are a few really dark scenes too) or pulsating effects so looks go so far. That's a 5.7GB --> 4.37GB so I'll have to do it on a longer movie (size wise). I was about to totally redo ic7 guide and basically rip movie only with dvdtoolbox and recommend anything that exceeded 5.8GB process with IC7. However, anything between 4.37GB and 5.8GB I was gonna recommended to transcode with dvd2one. I am quite happy with dvd2one when it's within that range so I'll see if the same range holds true with DVDShrink. (so far based on one movie it's looking good IMHO). I want to do a dvd2one and dvdshrink screenshot comparison...maybe throw in IC7 too.

yeah, when i went to sleep last night at 3 am i fired off a re-author movie only for life as a house..

the re-encode as i said sucked, but movie only was actually pretty good.. so im going to try to do a side-by-side comparison of ic, dvd2one and this one movie only..

i have to say though.. if peeps only want to do the movie.. my god it's like CAKE usig the shrink.. it's an all in one package! literally no need for dvddecrypter even

edit: i think for movie-only peeps this may be the champion as it is an all-in-one package and the quality is fairly decent (no blocks for life as a house which shows up immediately, otherwise)

but for me, i want to maximize the movie.. and keep the menus too, xtras can go away.. so for me, i think the dvdtoolbox-IC combo is the way to go.. or just IC since i have yet to tinker with dvdtoolbox . )

[valnar]

Based on the compression levels, its enough to keep me away from this program indefinitely. How good can it look when you compress only some frames and not others? Even if they are only B-frames, that certainly would give it the pixel-pulsating effect that commonly plagues DVD2One.

IC still wins for me.

-Robert

[MackemX]

Originally posted by mpucoder
so I took the least compression that would fit. This resulted in a 3.9G DVD, with NO menu
I had already ripped this movie to HD, so I don't know if the program can decrypt. Has anyone tried using a DVD as source?

I came across that when I couldnt get it lower than 4.44Gb unless I went lower than 4Gb, so obviously I had to go lower to level 4 (48%) and cos I was doing a complete 1:1 unlike people who have done movie & menu I ended up with very poor quality from an already poor source (Blade 1), which resulted in the annoying pulsating background probably from the compression method which was more apparent on my TFT and less apparent on TV but still noticable

yes it does work direct from DVD (dunno if this will last long due to legalities) and did quite a good job of Blade 2, but again I could not get anywhere near 4.37Gb, it was either 4.52Gb (level 3) or 3.98Gb (Level 4) which suffered badly

Of course this will be sorted and overall it looks very promising and for movie only there is nothing that can touch it as most people will be using the higher levels and can do it direct from the DVD

no doubt the author will be getting feedback and improve on the already excellent promising features

IC & DVD95Copy will still do it for me for now, but I'll keep an eye on for this and no doubt there will be more & more popping up and we will all be spoilt for choice

[muralin]

is it possible to remove specific cells, chapters, or vob ids of a movie with this program?