New DVD 9 to 5 program: DVD Shrink 1.02

Antonio S. · 7th April 2003, 03:10

DVD Shrink 1.02

First was DVD2one...
Second was Pinnacle InstantCopy...
Third was DVD95Copy...

And now there is DVD Shrink 1.02...Does anyone try it?
I think it is a similar program that re-encodes and strip streams in order to make a 1:1 DVD copy. The best of all is that is FREE.

More information here:http://www.dvdr-digest.com/software/...file=dvdshrink

Antonio S.

MackemX · 7th April 2003, 03:32

got some interesting features

nice one Antonio S.

get it while you can, bet it ain't free for long

jdobbs · 7th April 2003, 03:33

Whoah! I downloaded this and did a quick look. I'll have to check out the quality etc. before making a judgement, but this looks really good at first glance. Fast too. The options are even impressive...

MackemX · 7th April 2003, 03:35

you can select loadsa stiff, the bummer is I'm testing it with Blade and it's got 59 menu's

, gonna take me ages to select it but I like it so far

EDIT
DOH, I went the reauthor route

this has how many options

MackemX · 7th April 2003, 03:44

DVD2One speed by the looks of things and you can flick the preview on and off while its working

I couldn't get it lower than 4.44Gb tho

1st impressions on quality is the annoying pulsing in the background

, tho this is 1st impression by the way using Level 4

jdobbs · 7th April 2003, 04:08

It is very, very fast. The quality looks to be about the same as DVD2one. I'm about to run AVISYNTH on it to see what kind of signal to noise ratio I get. All in all I'd say this guy just made a few $49 packages obsolete... I'll have to explore the options some more.

MackemX · 7th April 2003, 04:16

Quote:

Originally posted by jdobbs
All in all I'd say this guy just made a few $49 packages obsolete... I'll have to explore the options some more.

LOL

, it is very fast, just done a complete DVD in 15 mins but the quality suffers a little for it, similar to DVD2One, though not that bad on my TV compared to PC

It has some very interesting features too and no doubt they will be fully explained in the future, but it also has a neat set of help files included to get you by for now

no doubt it will evolve just like the rest of them and at this price you cannot complain

so 10/10

and grab it while you cos it won't last long at this price

int 21h · 7th April 2003, 04:45

This program is interesting... one of its interesting features:

Quote:

Technical Note on Stream Removal

For those who are interested, DVD Shrink uses an advanced method of removing audio and subpicture streams from the target DVD. When a stream is removed, it is not merely removed from the VOB files, but also from the navigation structures at the VTS, VMG and PGC levels. Remaining stream ID numbers are re-mapped, and menu button commands and navigation commands executed at the PGC level are re-mapped so as to enable the correct stream numbers. Commands which enable a stream ID no longer valid, are replaced with the NOP command. This means that the target DVD should function rather well, even with streams removed.

I'm testing it now on Gladiator (Level 3)

mrbass · 7th April 2003, 05:48

well..man....this is awesome. It can do what dvdtoolbox can do too. One thing that dvd95copy and dvd2one won't do is give the size of each stream which dvdshrink does. I just did Gone in 60 seconds and I removed French audio and it needed no compression. Took 7 mins..same time as dvdtoolbox would take. Plays perfect in PowerDVD. I also cut off the credits ..just left about a min.

Was gonna redo ic guide but that's gonna have to take a backseat to this awesome little utility. Can't wait to test the quality of the transcoding of this puppy. Let's call it our personal shrink. Also I ripped it with dvdshrink and didn't even need to use dvddecrypter.

GooglyBear · 7th April 2003, 05:50

keep them tests/reviews coming out fellas.. quality is most important, how does that go?
cuz right now the reigning king in terms of quality is IC

and mixterx is right . ) grab it while it's still free, LOL

we're all beta testers right now

int 21h · 7th April 2003, 06:08

The quality I experienced was about average, it used an approximate reduction factor of ~40% (equivalent to IC @ ~60%). I ran Avisynth's compare on some of this to get an idea of the PSNR, the output was:

Code:

                           Minimum   Average   Maximum
Mean Absolute Deviation:    0.0000    0.5486    1.3232
         Mean Deviation:   -0.0502   +0.1102   +0.3427
                   PSNR:   40.5404   51.7981  106.5268

The max of 106 appears to be an error, and it may inflate the average a bit. The average appears to be more like 46-48.

The movie itself doesn't appear to be too bad, in the noiser portions, blocking does tend to show up a little more. I haven't taken a look on the television yet, but it is very likely the pixelation is not visible on an analog set. I also did not experience any of the 'pulsating' background problems reported elsewhere in this thread.

Sbofen · 7th April 2003, 06:52

Quote:

Originally posted by MisterX
got some interesting features

nice one Antonio S.

get it while you can, bet it ain't free for long

I second that, how can something this nice be free?
It's good to finally see something given to the community to rival others that charge for thier programs.

GooglyBear · 7th April 2003, 06:59

Quote:

Originally posted by Sbofen
I second that, how can something this nice be free?
It's good to finally see something given to the community to rival others that charge for thier programs.

yeah but what sucks about this is some company will take what he did, put a pretty menu on it, good icons, etc etc and then market it as their own..

ultimately, i feel bad for him because they're taking his work and they'll be the ones to make money off it

GooglyBear · 7th April 2003, 07:21

first impressions of the shrink..
pros:
1. nice speed, very nice.. rivals dvd2one

2. i like the fact that you can customize each vtc by itself
3. i like that the size you specify.. is the size you get.. i just did life as a house.. i was setting the compression level of the xtras to level 4, and the main movie and basically tinkering around to get a filesize of 4.36, final size was 4.365 . ) which is right on point

quality wise im not sure yet as im burning it on to a dvdrw to watch on my panasonic cp72s . )

cons:
1. can't deselect stuff.. if i want movie only and none of the xtras.. u cannot deselect it
2. quality? not sure yet..

first impressions from moi

mrbass · 7th April 2003, 07:31

Quote:

Originally posted by GooglyBear

cons:
1. can't deselect stuff.. if i want movie only and none of the xtras.. u cannot deselect it
2. quality? not sure yet..

what are you talking about?
I only do main movie only with this...you choose Re-author...then only add the largest size PGC (you can preview it too) and then I like to Customize Streams (I think that's what it's called) and voila you have main movie only.

DVDShrink will be ultra easy to do Band of Brothers, Simpsons, etc. because you can choose say just those two episodes or whatever and that's it. Just like int21h quoted it handles the new navigation, etc.

I did Ever After and it only took 11mins (files first were ripped to hd though). Quality...well in PowerDVD looked excellent...41% done burning to dvd-r so will report back on TV. I stripped out French audio and English commentary and it had to reduce the 5.7GB down to 4.38GB (full dvd is 6.11GB). I just choose 4.7GB DVD-5 size and it gave me 4.37GB.

I know 99% of people never read help included with programs...however, DVDShrink includes an excellent help file with screenshots and extremely thourough explanation of each option. Well worth 5 mins to read through it to get a clear understanding of DVDShrinks capabilities.

Arianos · 7th April 2003, 07:41

What a way to wake up on a Monday morning

First impressions:
I just gave it my "Walking with Dinosaurs" (6.67 Gig) which crashes DVD2ONE no matter what, (it would take about 45 minutes) and took IC7 about 3,5 hours to ...finish (4,39 GB (4.721.809.408 bytes...sigh) on my P4 @ 1800:
It did it in about 27 minutes @ level 4 (41,7%).Predicted size 3.86,
came out 3.95 (AAAARGH!!) with DVD2ONE looking quality

Lots of bells and whistles

and the preview works over a network (IC7 does not), but slows it down considerably.
Sure looks awfully lot like MisterX's dream software

, after minor improvements.
And at a price you can't say no...

GooglyBear · 7th April 2003, 08:39

Quote:

Originally posted by mrbass
what are you talking about?
I only do main movie only with this...you choose Re-author...then only add the largest size PGC (you can preview it too) and then I like to Customize Streams (I think that's what it's called) and voila you have main movie only.

DVDShrink will be ultra easy to do Band of Brothers, Simpsons, etc. because you can choose say just those two episodes or whatever and that's it. Just like int21h quoted it handles the new navigation, etc.

I did Ever After and it only took 11mins (files first were ripped to hd though). Quality...well in PowerDVD looked excellent...41% done burning to dvd-r so will report back on TV. I stripped out French audio and English commentary and it had to reduce the 5.7GB down to 4.38GB (full dvd is 6.11GB). I just choose 4.7GB DVD-5 size and it gave me 4.37GB.

I know 99% of people never read help included with programs...however, DVDShrink includes an excellent help file with screenshots and extremely thourough explanation of each option. Well worth 5 mins to read through it to get a clear understanding of DVDShrinks capabilities.

oops, forgot to say i did the other one.. full re-encode
which is what i wanted to see, how flexible it is on a FULL dvd
not "movie only"
anyhows the quality was .. worse than dvd2one
i'll do the re-author way tomorrow and see

but yeah this thing is chock full of options

GooglyBear · 7th April 2003, 08:40

btw mrbass since you've already gone re-author movie only way.. how is it quality-wise?

let us know please

edit: and i meant in an actual dvd player, not powerdvd, i do read posts, heh :P hrmpf

mrbass · 7th April 2003, 09:54

Well I just finished watching the entire Ever After movie (and yes the layer break was not removed...I'm glad it isn't too) with my wife..it's close to 1am now and I didn't notice any macro blocks (and yes there are a few really dark scenes too) or pulsating effects so looks go so far. That's a 5.7GB --> 4.37GB so I'll have to do it on a longer movie (size wise). I was about to totally redo ic7 guide and basically rip movie only with dvdtoolbox and recommend anything that exceeded 5.8GB process with IC7. However, anything between 4.37GB and 5.8GB I was gonna recommended to transcode with dvd2one. I am quite happy with dvd2one when it's within that range so I'll see if the same range holds true with DVDShrink. (so far based on one movie it's looking good IMHO). I want to do a dvd2one and dvdshrink screenshot comparison...maybe throw in IC7 too.

Pstelios · 7th April 2003, 11:16

Well, i transcoded Sex and the city Season 3 disc 2
Results: Better than dvd2one for only 1 reason....
I could exclude 5 languages and 6 subtitles.
And the best of all...
It's much faster than dvd2one since you don't need extra time for ripping!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Antonio S. Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 354	New DVD 9 to 5 program: DVD Shrink 1.02 DVD Shrink 1.02 First was DVD2one... Second was Pinnacle InstantCopy... Third was DVD95Copy... And now there is DVD Shrink 1.02...Does anyone try it? I think it is a similar program that re-encodes and strip streams in order to make a 1:1 DVD copy. The best of all is that is FREE. More information here:http://www.dvdr-digest.com/software/...file=dvdshrink Antonio S. Last edited by Antonio S.; 7th April 2003 at 03:38.

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MackemX ..DVD GOD.. Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,838	you can select loadsa stiff, the bummer is I'm testing it with Blade and it's got 59 menu's , gonna take me ages to select it but I like it so far EDIT DOH, I went the reauthor route this has how many options Last edited by MackemX; 7th April 2003 at 03:38.

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MackemX ..DVD GOD.. Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,838	DVD2One speed by the looks of things and you can flick the preview on and off while its working I couldn't get it lower than 4.44Gb tho 1st impressions on quality is the annoying pulsing in the background , tho this is 1st impression by the way using Level 4 Last edited by MackemX; 7th April 2003 at 03:51.

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mrbass Moderator Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 2,029	well..man....this is awesome. It can do what dvdtoolbox can do too. One thing that dvd95copy and dvd2one won't do is give the size of each stream which dvdshrink does. I just did Gone in 60 seconds and I removed French audio and it needed no compression. Took 7 mins..same time as dvdtoolbox would take. Plays perfect in PowerDVD. I also cut off the credits ..just left about a min. Was gonna redo ic guide but that's gonna have to take a backseat to this awesome little utility. Can't wait to test the quality of the transcoding of this puppy. Let's call it our personal shrink. Also I ripped it with dvdshrink and didn't even need to use dvddecrypter. __________________ www.mrbass.org DVDShrink \| DVD2DVD \| DVDFAB \| Mac guides

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int 21h Still Laughing Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Around Posts: 1,312	The quality I experienced was about average, it used an approximate reduction factor of ~40% (equivalent to IC @ ~60%). I ran Avisynth's compare on some of this to get an idea of the PSNR, the output was: Code: Minimum Average Maximum Mean Absolute Deviation: 0.0000 0.5486 1.3232 Mean Deviation: -0.0502 +0.1102 +0.3427 PSNR: 40.5404 51.7981 106.5268 The max of 106 appears to be an error, and it may inflate the average a bit. The average appears to be more like 46-48. The movie itself doesn't appear to be too bad, in the noiser portions, blocking does tend to show up a little more. I haven't taken a look on the television yet, but it is very likely the pixelation is not visible on an analog set. I also did not experience any of the 'pulsating' background problems reported elsewhere in this thread.

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MackemX ..DVD GOD.. Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,838	got some interesting features nice one Antonio S. get it while you can, bet it ain't free for long

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jdobbs Moderator Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 12,054	Whoah! I downloaded this and did a quick look. I'll have to check out the quality etc. before making a judgement, but this looks really good at first glance. Fast too. The options are even impressive...

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jdobbs Moderator Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 12,054	It is very, very fast. The quality looks to be about the same as DVD2one. I'm about to run AVISYNTH on it to see what kind of signal to noise ratio I get. All in all I'd say this guy just made a few $49 packages obsolete... I'll have to explore the options some more.

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GooglyBear There is no spoon Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: reppin 11237 Posts: 41	keep them tests/reviews coming out fellas.. quality is most important, how does that go? cuz right now the reigning king in terms of quality is IC and mixterx is right . ) grab it while it's still free, LOL we're all beta testers right now

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GooglyBear There is no spoon Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: reppin 11237 Posts: 41	first impressions of the shrink.. pros: 1. nice speed, very nice.. rivals dvd2one 2. i like the fact that you can customize each vtc by itself 3. i like that the size you specify.. is the size you get.. i just did life as a house.. i was setting the compression level of the xtras to level 4, and the main movie and basically tinkering around to get a filesize of 4.36, final size was 4.365 . ) which is right on point quality wise im not sure yet as im burning it on to a dvdrw to watch on my panasonic cp72s . ) cons: 1. can't deselect stuff.. if i want movie only and none of the xtras.. u cannot deselect it 2. quality? not sure yet.. first impressions from moi

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Arianos Gone Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Greece Posts: 260	What a way to wake up on a Monday morning First impressions: I just gave it my "Walking with Dinosaurs" (6.67 Gig) which crashes DVD2ONE no matter what, (it would take about 45 minutes) and took IC7 about 3,5 hours to ...finish (4,39 GB (4.721.809.408 bytes...sigh) on my P4 @ 1800: It did it in about 27 minutes @ level 4 (41,7%).Predicted size 3.86, came out 3.95 (AAAARGH!!) with DVD2ONE looking quality Lots of bells and whistles and the preview works over a network (IC7 does not), but slows it down considerably. Sure looks awfully lot like MisterX's dream software , after minor improvements. And at a price you can't say no...

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GooglyBear There is no spoon Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: reppin 11237 Posts: 41	btw mrbass since you've already gone re-author movie only way.. how is it quality-wise? let us know please edit: and i meant in an actual dvd player, not powerdvd, i do read posts, heh :P hrmpf

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mrbass Moderator Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 2,029	Well I just finished watching the entire Ever After movie (and yes the layer break was not removed...I'm glad it isn't too) with my wife..it's close to 1am now and I didn't notice any macro blocks (and yes there are a few really dark scenes too) or pulsating effects so looks go so far. That's a 5.7GB --> 4.37GB so I'll have to do it on a longer movie (size wise). I was about to totally redo ic7 guide and basically rip movie only with dvdtoolbox and recommend anything that exceeded 5.8GB process with IC7. However, anything between 4.37GB and 5.8GB I was gonna recommended to transcode with dvd2one. I am quite happy with dvd2one when it's within that range so I'll see if the same range holds true with DVDShrink. (so far based on one movie it's looking good IMHO). I want to do a dvd2one and dvdshrink screenshot comparison...maybe throw in IC7 too. __________________ www.mrbass.org DVDShrink \| DVD2DVD \| DVDFAB \| Mac guides Last edited by mrbass; 7th April 2003 at 09:58.

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Pstelios Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 23	1st test Well, i transcoded Sex and the city Season 3 disc 2 Results: Better than dvd2one for only 1 reason.... I could exclude 5 languages and 6 subtitles. And the best of all... It's much faster than dvd2one since you don't need extra time for ripping!!!!!!!!!!!!

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