Windows Media Video (WMV9) VCM in beta

amirm · 29th March 2003, 04:17

As I promised a while back, we are now in beta with the VCM interface for WMV 9. Yes, I know it was supposed to be out last month but you know how it is with software

. This code should let you put WMV 9 streams into AVIs or any other container you like.

Be sure to read the notes at http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win...odecs/vcm.aspx .

The beta version has limited compatibility but the final version should be far more compatible. For now, VirtualDub and Adobe Premiere are the apps that we know work. You can of course use it in other applications and see what happens.

I will check from time on this thread and give the feedback to the team.

Happy encoding!

Thanks,
Amir
Microsoft

hurts70 · 29th March 2003, 09:10

glad to hear that...
thx for your work...

ChristianHJW · 29th March 2003, 11:12

Hmmm .... i'm glad i didnt make a bet on that, seems i would have lost that bottle of Scotch to you amirm

....

bond · 29th March 2003, 11:22

great news!!!

although shouldnt there show up a "wmv9" option under virtualdub -> compression?

Ramirez · 29th March 2003, 11:51

Yes its there,look for the "MS Windows Media Video 9" name string, kinda buggy though, any attempt to configure this codec in "2 Pass VBR Mode" results in infinite loop of error messages.(at least for me)

bond · 29th March 2003, 12:16

Quote:

Originally posted by Ramirez
Yes its there,look for the "MS Windows Media Video 9" name string

nope, there is no such thing in my case!?

hm, i am using winme, hopefully it doesnt only work in winxp (like wmencoder9)

Ramirez · 29th March 2003, 12:39

Dunno what might be wrong,I'm using WIN2k have a look at this screenshot.

bond · 29th March 2003, 12:50

Thanks for that Ramirez, i believed you of course

perhaps someone with a non win2k or winxp system can give this a try and share his experiences if it works or not...

ChristianHJW · 29th March 2003, 12:57

Showing up nicely here on my Virtualdub ... Win2K rulezz, as always

...

First results using 300 kbps ( as per recommended settings ) on a low filtered 640 x 288 movie look nice i have to admit

!!

trbarry · 29th March 2003, 14:52

Nope. Doesn't show up in VirtualdubMod with Win/Me.

Drat!

- Tom

deXtoRious · 29th March 2003, 15:30

Holy shit! I was beginning to think that this is never going to happen. Great work!

S_O · 29th March 2003, 16:00

For me it works great (win2k sp3)!

It is possible to mux the video from avi into asf toghether with wma audio to create a compatible wmv-file? Is there any asf-muxer that doesn´t require re-encoding? I tried the "Windows Media Multiplexer"-Filter in GraphEdit, but it won´t connect to the AVI Splitter without inserting a decoder filter.
The other way round works fine with AsfTools, I can remux an wmv/asf to avi and play it perfectly (works only with wmv7 (using ffdshow) and wmv9, because the wmv-decoder doesn´t connect to avi-splitter), but not the other way round.

amirm · 29th March 2003, 17:00

Quote:

Originally posted by trbarry
Nope. Doesn't show up in VirtualdubMod with Win/Me.
- Tom

Tom, this beta drop is XP only (although as you have found out, it may also work on Win2K). The final version though, will support all the OS platforms that Media Player 9 supports (Win98 SE, Me, Win2K and XP).

Thanks,
Amir

stax76 · 29th March 2003, 18:21

@amirm

DivX and XviD save their settings at HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software.
Some tools make usage of that. Would be great if Windows Media
Video 9 VCM would do this too

Quote:

Tom, this beta drop is XP only

but it don't support XP style yet

Baalthazaar · 29th March 2003, 19:33

Quote:

Originally posted by Ramirez
Yes its there,look for the "MS Windows Media Video 9" name string, kinda buggy though, any attempt to configure this codec in "2 Pass VBR Mode" results in infinite loop of error messages.(at least for me)

I get no errors when using 2-pass VBR, though v-dub refuses to terminate on the last frame and I have to click 'abort'. Haven't played with it much yet, though, so I'd expect to find some bugs sooner or later.

Nice to have it released finally, though.

Ramirez · 29th March 2003, 21:33

Yeah,glad to hear that you're OK, me on the other hand still stuck with that 2-pass prob, nevermind I'll try to mess with that codec later on my second machine(WINXP)currently encoding my 1000000th SBC Rip, nothing even close to these amazingly good quality SBC rips I've seen on the net,how the hell these guys are doing it!!!

Dark-Cracker · 29th March 2003, 23:27

hi,

damn doesn't work (yet

) under win9X u could have acces to the parameters panel (add in the system.ini the vid.wmv3 and do the same in HKLM,SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\MediaResources\icm\

but once u start an encode it crash

i hope beta2 will come soon with a full Win9X support.

Bye.

ChristianHJW · 30th March 2003, 03:26

Hmmm ... can anybody tell me why my encode looks marvellous in the Vdub preview window, but very blurry and cloudy when played in WMP7 ( same window size ) ? Am i forced to get a newer version of WMP, like 8 or 9, to get a decent DShow filter for playback ?

bond · 30th March 2003, 10:12

Quote:

Originally posted by ChristianHJW
... to get a decent DShow filter for playback ?

I dont know if there exists a DShow filter?

HaSh · 30th March 2003, 11:32

niice...seems like Microsoft came through as promised. Ill give this a shot...thx for keepin us updated Amir. I cant wait until final. WMV9 + vdub editing capabilities = great rips!

29th March 2003, 04:17	#1 \| Link
amirm Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 44	Windows Media Video (WMV9) VCM in beta As I promised a while back, we are now in beta with the VCM interface for WMV 9. Yes, I know it was supposed to be out last month but you know how it is with software . This code should let you put WMV 9 streams into AVIs or any other container you like. Be sure to read the notes at http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win...odecs/vcm.aspx . The beta version has limited compatibility but the final version should be far more compatible. For now, VirtualDub and Adobe Premiere are the apps that we know work. You can of course use it in other applications and see what happens. I will check from time on this thread and give the feedback to the team. Happy encoding! Thanks, Amir Microsoft __________________ This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

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hurts70 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: NZ Posts: 12	... glad to hear that... thx for your work...

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bond Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 9,780	great news!!! although shouldnt there show up a "wmv9" option under virtualdub -> compression? __________________ Between the weak and the strong one it is the freedom which oppresses and the law that liberates (Jean Jacques Rousseau) I know, that I know nothing (Socrates) MPEG-4 ASP FAQ \| AVC/H.264 FAQ \| AAC FAQ \| MP4 FAQ \| MP4Menu stores DVD Menus in MP4 (guide) Ogg Theora \| Ogg Vorbis use WM9 today and get Micro$oft controlling the A/V market tomorrow for free

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bond Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 9,780	Thanks for that Ramirez, i believed you of course perhaps someone with a non win2k or winxp system can give this a try and share his experiences if it works or not... __________________ Between the weak and the strong one it is the freedom which oppresses and the law that liberates (Jean Jacques Rousseau) I know, that I know nothing (Socrates) MPEG-4 ASP FAQ \| AVC/H.264 FAQ \| AAC FAQ \| MP4 FAQ \| MP4Menu stores DVD Menus in MP4 (guide) Ogg Theora \| Ogg Vorbis use WM9 today and get Micro$oft controlling the A/V market tomorrow for free

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Dark-Cracker Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,195	hi, damn doesn't work (yet ) under win9X u could have acces to the parameters panel (add in the system.ini the vid.wmv3 and do the same in HKLM,SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\MediaResources\icm\ but once u start an encode it crash i hope beta2 will come soon with a full Win9X support. Bye. __________________ AutoDub v1.8 : Divx3/4/5 & Xvid Video codec and .OGG/.MP3/.AC3/.WMA audio codec. AutoRV10 v1.0 : Use RealVideo 10 Codec and support 2 Audio Streams and Subtitles.

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ChristianHJW Matroska Team Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Bavaria - Germany Posts: 1,341	Hmmm .... i'm glad i didnt make a bet on that, seems i would have lost that bottle of Scotch to you amirm ....

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Ramirez Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Israel Posts: 371	Yes its there,look for the "MS Windows Media Video 9" name string, kinda buggy though, any attempt to configure this codec in "2 Pass VBR Mode" results in infinite loop of error messages.(at least for me)

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Ramirez Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Israel Posts: 371	Dunno what might be wrong,I'm using WIN2k have a look at this screenshot.

29th March 2003, 12:57	#9 \| Link
ChristianHJW Matroska Team Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Bavaria - Germany Posts: 1,341	Showing up nicely here on my Virtualdub ... Win2K rulezz, as always ... First results using 300 kbps ( as per recommended settings ) on a low filtered 640 x 288 movie look nice i have to admit !!

29th March 2003, 14:52	#10 \| Link
trbarry Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Gainesville FL USA Posts: 2,091	Nope. Doesn't show up in VirtualdubMod with Win/Me. Drat! - Tom

29th March 2003, 15:30	#11 \| Link
deXtoRious Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Riga, Latvia Posts: 192	Holy shit! I was beginning to think that this is never going to happen. Great work!

29th March 2003, 16:00	#12 \| Link
S_O Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Lower Saxony - Germany Posts: 192	For me it works great (win2k sp3)! It is possible to mux the video from avi into asf toghether with wma audio to create a compatible wmv-file? Is there any asf-muxer that doesn´t require re-encoding? I tried the "Windows Media Multiplexer"-Filter in GraphEdit, but it won´t connect to the AVI Splitter without inserting a decoder filter. The other way round works fine with AsfTools, I can remux an wmv/asf to avi and play it perfectly (works only with wmv7 (using ffdshow) and wmv9, because the wmv-decoder doesn´t connect to avi-splitter), but not the other way round.

29th March 2003, 21:33	#16 \| Link
Ramirez Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Israel Posts: 371	Yeah,glad to hear that you're OK, me on the other hand still stuck with that 2-pass prob, nevermind I'll try to mess with that codec later on my second machine(WINXP)currently encoding my 1000000th SBC Rip, nothing even close to these amazingly good quality SBC rips I've seen on the net,how the hell these guys are doing it!!!

30th March 2003, 03:26	#18 \| Link
ChristianHJW Matroska Team Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Bavaria - Germany Posts: 1,341	Hmmm ... can anybody tell me why my encode looks marvellous in the Vdub preview window, but very blurry and cloudy when played in WMP7 ( same window size ) ? Am i forced to get a newer version of WMP, like 8 or 9, to get a decent DShow filter for playback ?

30th March 2003, 11:32	#20 \| Link
HaSh Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 15	niice...seems like Microsoft came through as promised. Ill give this a shot...thx for keepin us updated Amir. I cant wait until final. WMV9 + vdub editing capabilities = great rips!

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